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ellie - 24 May 2005 18:50 GMT I am doing a research project on how womens teeth and gums suffer during pregnancy?
CWatters - 24 May 2005 18:52 GMT > I am doing a research project on how womens teeth and gums suffer > during pregnancy? and?
ellie - 24 May 2005 19:12 GMT > > I am doing a research project on how womens teeth and gums suffer > > during pregnancy? > > and? sorry i mean i am doing a research project on teeth and pregnancy, i wanted to know have/did any women suffer with problems with there teeth and gums in pregnancy and what problems they have had?
CWatters - 24 May 2005 21:40 GMT > sorry i mean i am doing a research project on teeth and pregnancy, i > wanted to know have/did any women suffer with problems with there teeth > and gums in pregnancy and what problems they have had? Make sure you use a good controls. I believe in some countries if you are pregnant you get free checkups - so perhaps more problems will be detected when pregnant.
Dr Steve - 24 May 2005 23:23 GMT What has your library search shown so far??
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
> >> > I am doing a research project on how womens teeth and gums suffer [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > wanted to know have/did any women suffer with problems with there teeth > and gums in pregnancy and what problems they have had? W_B - 25 May 2005 16:12 GMT >> > I am doing a research project on how womens teeth and gums suffer >> > during pregnancy? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >wanted to know have/did any women suffer with problems with there teeth >and gums in pregnancy and what problems they have had? Sure.
As mentioned before 'pregnancy gingivitis'.
Some get decay due to poor dietary habits ie sugar intake --
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The Real Paul - 24 May 2005 18:58 GMT pregnancy gingivitis ....try Google with those terms
> I am doing a research project on how womens teeth and gums suffer > during pregnancy? carabelli - 24 May 2005 19:14 GMT > pregnancy gingivitis ....try Google with those terms pubmed also.
carabelli
W_B - 25 May 2005 16:11 GMT >I am doing a research project on how womens teeth and gums suffer >during pregnancy? Good for you, and good luck. --
W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Stormin Mormon - 25 May 2005 23:51 GMT That was a question. I'm not sure how to answer. I guess, I'll be adventurous.
Yes, you are doing a paper.
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I am doing a research project on how womens teeth and gums suffer during pregnancy?
carabelli - 26 May 2005 04:39 GMT > Christopher A. Young > Learn more about Jesus > www.lds.org > www.mormons.com Why do you keep shoving this in our faces? It is inappropriate in this NG and many others.
carabelli
Dr Steve - 26 May 2005 13:06 GMT >> Christopher A. Young >> Learn more about Jesus [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Why do you keep shoving this in our faces? It is inappropriate in this NG > and many others. I agree. Please change your sig line for this NG.
Steven Fawks - 26 May 2005 13:15 GMT Too many words again<G>. It is inappropriate.
Every religious zealot wants to cram their specific religion down everyone elses throat.
It doesn't matter which religion is being peddled, it is in poor taste.
Fawks
> Why do you keep shoving this in our faces? It is inappropriate in this NG > and many others. > > carabelli The Real Paul - 26 May 2005 13:54 GMT What is the big deal?
> Too many words again<G>. It is inappropriate. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > carabelli Tony Bad - 26 May 2005 14:02 GMT > > Christopher A. Young > > Learn more about Jesus [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > carabelli I don't want to start trouble, but isn't it just as easy for you (or anyone who is disturbed) to ignore it? That works for me here, and in many other areas of the usenet and internet. I see a signature line like this much in the way I see bumper stickers that bear similar messages...darn easy to ignore as I zip on by. I am offended by overweight women who wear short shirts that bares their flabby middle...so I just look away. (just saw one while buying coffee this morning...don't they have mirrors??) Works every time!
T
Dr Steve - 26 May 2005 14:15 GMT It is the implication that they are the only right choice and that we NEED to accept their way. Trust me, he would NOT like it if it was a Catholic, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, Confucianism, etc. message. I have no room in my life for evangelical preaching of anything, not just religion. Restrict the preaching to those who choose to listen.
 Signature ~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA ....................................................
This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
> >> > Christopher A. Young [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > T Tony Bad - 26 May 2005 14:36 GMT > It is the implication that they are the only right choice and that we NEED > to accept their way. Trust me, he would NOT like it if it was a Catholic, > Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, Confucianism, etc. message. I have no > room in my life for evangelical preaching of anything, not just religion. > Restrict the preaching to those who choose to listen. All I saw was an offer to learn more about something by clicking a link, which I felt under no obligation to click, and didn't. As I said, I find this no more offensive than a bumper sticker or t-shirt with a similar slogan...to each his/her own. Just trying to understand why it is an issue for others.
T
carabelli - 26 May 2005 14:43 GMT > > It is the implication that they are the only right choice and that we NEED > > to accept their way. Trust me, he would NOT like it if it was a Catholic, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > T What Dr. Steve said....
and it just bugs me
carabelli
Dr Steve - 26 May 2005 16:11 GMT We could go into a long drawn out religious debate, but this is not the place for that. Suffice it to say, that once or twice is ok, but to be posting it into hundreds of NG messages is not. As I said, I doubt Storming Norman would appreciate it if I added a link to a Hindu site to every posting I made. Saying that everyone should embrace Vishnu.
My compliant includes the double standard that everyone should learn more about their preferred choice, but they cannot hear about other choices.
 Signature ~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA ....................................................
This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
> >> It is the implication that they are the only right choice and that we [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > T Tony Bad - 26 May 2005 16:45 GMT > We could go into a long drawn out religious debate, but this is not the > place for that. Suffice it to say, that once or twice is ok, but to be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > My compliant includes the double standard that everyone should learn more > about their preferred choice, but they cannot hear about other choices. Certainly didn't want to start a religious debate. I know full well, religion, college sports in some parts of the country, politics, and Memphis vs. KC vs. Carolina BBQ are topics you just don't mess with. I was just struck by the response to something I barely noticed.
T
Dr Steve - 26 May 2005 16:53 GMT I did not mind until he became a regular and I found myself tripping over the sig line multiple times a day. The other choice would be to filter him. And, he does not seem to be annoying like the various Hydra heads are.
I enjoy a good religious debate. So long as it is a debate and not an argument. I have an ex-clergy brother-in-law who is wonderful to debate these topics with. We can take any stand we like for the debate and discuss it for hours with neither person getting upset. I despise being told what to believe.
 Signature ~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA ....................................................
>> We could go into a long drawn out religious debate, but this is not the >> place for that. Suffice it to say, that once or twice is ok, but to be [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > T W_B - 26 May 2005 17:18 GMT > I despise being told what >to believe. You'd better believe that I disagree with Morons !
<hehe> --
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Dr Steve - 26 May 2005 17:30 GMT How about moroons ? ? ? ?
 Signature ~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen [What's a Temporary?], D.D.S. Michigan, USA ....................................................
This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
> >> I despise being told what [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 26 May 2005 14:54 GMT > It is the implication that they are the only right choice and that we NEED > to accept their way. Trust me, he would NOT like it if it was a Catholic, > Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, Confucianism, etc. message. I have no > room in my life for evangelical preaching of anything, not just religion. > Restrict the preaching to those who choose to listen. In NY, you learn to ignore unwanted messages fast--or else. As for prostheletizing, we Jews somehow never got much into that (except for the Lubovitchers). I've gotten pretty good at passing up the a*****m threads too!
Steve
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Tony Bad - 26 May 2005 16:43 GMT > > It is the implication that they are the only right choice and that we NEED > > to accept their way. Trust me, he would NOT like it if it was a Catholic, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Steve Good point!
You made me laugh with the Lubavitcher reference. I always marveled at how well the young men in front of Penn Station asking everyone, "Mister...are you Jewish?" before inviting them into the Mitzvah Tank handled the indifference of the average NYer!
T
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 26 May 2005 17:52 GMT > You made me laugh with the Lubavitcher reference. I always marveled at how > well the young men in front of Penn Station asking everyone, "Mister...are > you Jewish?" before inviting them into the Mitzvah Tank handled the > indifference of the average NYer! > > T They're pretty aggressive. What's in the tank, anywho?
Steve
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Tony Bad - 26 May 2005 18:14 GMT > > You made me laugh with the Lubavitcher reference. I always marveled at how > > well the young men in front of Penn Station asking everyone, "Mister...are [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Steve I always gave the wrong answer to the "are you Jewish" question, so I was never invited in. They looked like normal RV's from the outside. I admit I pondered saying "yes" more than once just to see what was going on. They used to be on 7th avenue and 32nd street every day for years pre-9-11...now a big RV out there wouldn't fly.
T
Dr Steve - 26 May 2005 18:45 GMT Hey guys :-)
How about filling me in on this NYC Mitzvah Tank and the Lubavitchers? I never heard of such.
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> >> > You made me laugh with the Lubavitcher reference. I always marveled at [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > T Tony Bad - 26 May 2005 19:11 GMT > Hey guys :-) > > How about filling me in on this NYC Mitzvah Tank and the Lubavitchers? I > never heard of such. Well, I'll take a stab at it, although I know less than I should...but the Mitzvah Tank is a van or RV where Jewish men, and I believe it was only men, are invited to pray. As best as this Eye-talian Catholic boy can tell, they appear to be quite conservative in some regards, but their approach of taking what was private prayer normally done in the home to the streets in these RV's was frowned upon in some circles of the Jewish community. It seems to me that one of the goals of their activity is to educate other Jews about various Jewish traditions and subjects and get those who had strayed from conservative tradition back into the fold, even if the methods were not strictly the old methods (like the RV's)...but a friend explained to me many years ago, they are not well regarded by liberal and other conservative Jews as their views found a way to offend both ends of the spectrum.
Am I way off base on this Steve B. ?
T
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 26 May 2005 19:36 GMT > Well, I'll take a stab at it, although I know less than I should...but the > Mitzvah Tank is a van or RV where Jewish men, and I believe it was only men, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > T Not at all, though I'd hasten to distinguish conservative tradition with Conservative (capital "C") Judaism. My somewhat tenuous understanding of Chasidism is that it is a relatively recent (18th century) movement in eastern Europe with mystical components (but not in the sense of the Kabala). There tended to be a charismatic leader in each sect, and generally the sects are named by their town of origin--eg Lyubov, which I believe is now in the Ukraine; Bobov. The world center of Lubovich chasidism is on Eastern Parkway in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. Their recently deceased charismatic leader was Menachem Schneerson, who spent much of his days reportedly receiving people who had traveled from around the world to ask him a question or receive his blessing. About 15 years ago the Rebbe's motorcade, returning (as I recall) from a visit to his wife's gravesite struck and killed a young black boy named Gavin Cato. This touched off several days of rioting between blacks and jews, during which a young Chassidic man named Yankel Rosenbaum was stabbed to death. The mayor at that time (David Dinkins) was widely perceived as tacitly endorsing the police department's apparent softpedaling of the riot, and Dinkins lost most of his political support among jews. The blacks in the area (largely West-Indian immigrants) weren't happy either--they thought the Lubovitchers weilded too much political power, and were seen as immune to prosecution--factors that certainly encouraged the rioting. The Lubovitchers are unique (to my knowledge) in that they prostheletize--but as you say from within the religion. Someone who is returned "to the fold", as it were, is generally referred to as a "balt'shuvah". Although most of the chasidim look pretty much the same to you (and me)--men have long beards, wear black fedoras or fur stromel, sometimes a long brocade coat and stockings looking like lederhosen, women with wigs or covered head, arms always covered, no slacks--they differ pretty fundamentally over some philosophies. For instance, the Satmar who have taken over large parts of Williamsburg Brooklyn are fierce anti-Zionists, while I believe the Lubovitch are Zionist. I remember maybe 30 years ago that there was a riot in the streets of Borough Park between various sects of chasidics, though they are generally not regarded as violent. I have a few chasidic patients--they are generally very nice to me, but have never actively tried to enlist me.
Steve
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Dr Steve - 26 May 2005 22:42 GMT thanks Guys
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
>> >> Well, I'll take a stab at it, although I know less than I should...but [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Steve Steven Fawks - 26 May 2005 22:33 GMT Uh-oh. You're in jeopardy of losing your 'gentleman' status if YKW reads this.
;-) Fawks
> As for prostheletizing, we Jews somehow never got much into that > (except for the Lubovitchers).
> Steve carabelli - 26 May 2005 15:01 GMT "Tony Bad" <spamspamspam@bakedbeans.spam> wrote ..............
.... I am offended by overweight women who wear short
> shirts that bares their flabby middle...so I just look away. If you ever visit Alabama you'll throw your neck out.
carabelli
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