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spamNOTwanted@nospam.com - 20 May 2005 19:37 GMT
I was told I grind my teeth at night.  So they custom fit the mouth
guard to protect my teeth.

Fast forward a few years, and today I got a really bright light, and
look in the mirror, and noticed brownish streaks on the back of the
upper teeth.  This is not noticeable from the front.
I was like what the!?!?  
I looked at the bottom teeth, and those are fine both front & back.

So what is this brownish stuff?  Tartar? Plaque?
I can only think that the mouth guard caused this, since I don't got
any of that stuff on the lower jaw teeth.  My mouth has always been
dry when I wake up in the mornings, and I guess it is even drier where
the mouth guard is.
I brush 2 times a day, use listerene 3 times a day, and usually floss
about 1-2 times a week.

I got a appointment with the dentist in 4 1/2 months. (That is soonest
they got open).

Ideas on what it is, or what to do until then or other comments
appreciated!
StovePipe - 21 May 2005 00:29 GMT
> I was told I grind my teeth at night.  So they custom fit the mouth
> guard to protect my teeth.
>
> Fast forward a few years, and today I got a really bright light, and
> look in the mirror, and noticed brownish streaks on the back of the
> upper teeth.  This is not noticeable from the front.

> Ideas on what it is, or what to do until then or other comments
> appreciated!

I would say it is decalcification stains. This is not uncommon. When/if
you need to get the protector fixed, consider switching to an NTI. In
the meantime, a fluoride rinse may help keep the decalcification in
check.
Cheers
SP
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Finally: take out the TRASHH

spamNOTwanted@nospam.com - 22 May 2005 20:48 GMT
NTI protector, and fluoride rinse.  Got it.  Is gelkam a good fluoride
rinse?  That is what the local pharmacist said.  It was like $16 a
tube, or $18 for a little bottle.

>> I was told I grind my teeth at night.  So they custom fit the mouth
>> guard to protect my teeth.
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>Cheers
>SP
DrSteve - 22 May 2005 21:46 GMT
It would be a lot cheaper in the long run to go to a dental office outside
your network and pay cash

> NTI protector, and fluoride rinse.  Got it.  Is gelkam a good fluoride
> rinse?  That is what the local pharmacist said.  It was like $16 a
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>>Cheers
>>SP
Bill - 22 May 2005 03:48 GMT
SpamNOT wrote:

I was told I grind my teeth at night.  So they custom fit the mouth
guard to protect my teeth.

Fast forward a few years, and today I got a really bright light, and
look in the mirror, and noticed brownish streaks on the back of the
upper teeth.  This is not noticeable from the front.
I was like what the!?!?
I looked at the bottom teeth, and those are fine both front & back.

So what is this brownish stuff?  Tartar? Plaque?
I can only think that the mouth guard caused this, since I don't got
any of that stuff on the lower jaw teeth.  My mouth has always been
dry when I wake up in the mornings, and I guess it is even drier where
the mouth guard is.
I brush 2 times a day, use listerene 3 times a day, and usually floss
about 1-2 times a week.

I got a appointment with the dentist in 4 1/2 months. (That is soonest
they got open).

Ideas on what it is, or what to do until then or other comments
appreciated!

dentaldoc's answer:

Has it been a long time since your last professional cleaning?

I spend a lot of my time cleaning people's teeth, and brown stains
often appear on the back of the front teeth. It happens more often to
folks who smoke or drink coffee or tea, but I've seen brown stains in
other patients also.

The type of stain I'm talking about comes right off with a professional
cleaning.

Decalcification stains, on the other hand, do NOT come off with just a
cleaning. You might have decalcification stains on these teeth.

If a dentist made me wait 4.5 months for a single appointment, I would
be strongly motivated to consider switching dentists. Did they tell you
the reason why the wait for the appointment is so long?

- dentaldoc
DrSteve - 22 May 2005 04:06 GMT
> If a dentist made me wait 4.5 months for a single appointment, I would
> be strongly motivated to consider switching dentists. Did they tell you
> the reason why the wait for the appointment is so long?

I bet you it was due to HMO or PPO payment schemes.
spamNOTwanted@nospam.com - 22 May 2005 20:30 GMT
You are correct!  Not much I can do if I want insurance to pay some of
it.

>> If a dentist made me wait 4.5 months for a single appointment, I would
>> be strongly motivated to consider switching dentists. Did they tell you
>> the reason why the wait for the appointment is so long?
>
>I bet you it was due to HMO or PPO payment schemes.
Steven Fawks - 23 May 2005 14:05 GMT
Yes there is.  Quit playing the game.  The dentist "can't" see you
for months because he wants to collect payments for you as a patient
without you coming into his office and actually creating any overhead.

Many patients will never show up and many will change insurance plans
before the dentist ever lifts a finger or uses $1 of materials.

If you care about your teeth, you need to find a different means of
financing your dental care.

JMO,
Fawks

> You are correct!  Not much I can do if I want insurance to pay some of
> it.
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>>
>>I bet you it was due to HMO or PPO payment schemes.
spamNOTwanted@nospam.com - 22 May 2005 20:48 GMT
Yeah, it has been about 3-4 years since a cleaning.  I don't usually
stick in one city/town very long, only about 2-3 months, then the next
place I go off to.

I don't smoke or drink coffee, or colas or tea or alcohol.  Usually
water, white milk, sugar free drinks and that is about it.  I also
don't eat anything that contains more than 4g sugar per serving. (so
no cakes/suckers, candy bars..or anything like that)
I went to a local pharmacist, and got one of those dental type looking
tools that looks like a curved pick.  Well, I used it and the brown
stuff does scrape off, but it is really hard working backwards via a
small mirror. While I can get most of it off, there are some areas
that are in between teeth that I can't get at.  The pick is too thick
to fit in between them. They don't make anything thinner that I can
find.  Even floss has a hard time sliding between teeth.

I was just worried that the brown stuff was some sort of warning that
my teeth are going to fall out or something like that.  As long as it
is not tartar, I guess I am OK waiting for the appointment.  It takes
that long since they go through a HMO 'request' type of BS, and I
guess he is busy, since the place was packed the last time I went
there 3-4 years ago.

In the meantime, should I keep wearing the mouthguard, and use a
fluoride rinse after I brush my teeth?  Oh, also the pharmacist said
something about something called gelkam is a great fluoride product?

Thanks again for the info/help.  It is appreciated!

>dentaldoc's answer:
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>- dentaldoc
 
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