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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / May 2005cola, sweets etc + damage done
even if you do brush 3 times a day on a consistent basis can you still indulge in the cola and sweet stuff....without doing much damage ? > even if you do brush 3 times a day on a consistent basis can you still > indulge in the cola and sweet stuff....without doing much damage ? Many people can. It has more to do with how you drink it. Some people swoosh it around (bad) while others drink and kind of suck the film from their mouths ....... this is true of all foods by the way. Another neat trick is to drink some water after a candy bar and swoosh out the sugary but tasty gunk. Joel I would rather see teeth bathed in sugar than bathed in soda pop.  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > even if you do brush 3 times a day on a consistent basis can you still > indulge in the cola and sweet stuff....without doing much damage ? You can eat and drink those things without fear of decay if you go clean your teeth shortly thereafter... Its not the sugar that is the problem, it is the bacteria in the mouth that convert the sugar into acids that make holes in the teeth > even if you do brush 3 times a day on a consistent basis can you still > indulge in the cola and sweet stuff....without doing much damage ? > You can eat and drink those things without fear of decay if you go clean > your teeth shortly thereafter... Its not the sugar that is the problem, it > is the bacteria in the mouth that convert the sugar into acids that make > holes in the teeth What would the acid-producing bacteria be without their special food (sugar)? What was first - the egg or the hen? Signature-History of fluorine, fluoride and fluoridation-: --- http://www.fluoride-history.de/index.htm --- ---------------------------------------------------- >> You can eat and drink those things without fear of decay if you go clean >> your teeth shortly thereafter... Its not the sugar that is the problem, it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >What was first - the egg or the hen? The hen. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Well, possibly trying to determine which came first, the egg or the hen may never be determined. But I have determined what comes first, right or wrong, the main meal or the dessert. Eating the dessert first allows for the main meal (assuming it is not a surgary one), to do away with the sugary contents of the dessert, then followed by a fresh fruit as a second more sensible dessert. Not as satisfying as the guey dessert last, but perhaps easier on the teeth. For sweet lovers, a lasting taste of sweets is preferred, but not desirable. How about alcohol. Does a person need a lingering taste of alcohol to be satisfied, or is just the drink itself that is complete. Would be interesting to know, what is the best lingering taste for different individuals. Maybe toothpaste or flouride would satisfy some? or the inhaling of tobacco? Pepsi cola or in combination with cigarettes as many seem to need the combination. Just sort of interested, maybe a person can adjust their taste if some of the choices are known. Don't rack your brain on this one. Gail > >> You can eat and drink those things without fear of decay if you go clean > >> your teeth shortly thereafter... Its not the sugar that is the problem, it [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >Well, possibly trying to determine which came first, the egg or the hen may >never be determined. The hen came first. Genesis Chapter 1 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens." 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >Well, possibly trying to determine which came first, the egg or the hen may > >never be determined. > > The hen came first. The egg. For: > Genesis Chapter 1 > 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the > earth across the firmament of the heavens." I.e.: He made a plan, first. > 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters > swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it > was good. He created them in the form of their eggs, first, because otherwise they had killed each other before they had been able to lay eggs. > 22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let > birds multiply on the earth." [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Signature-History of fluorine, fluoride and fluoridation-: --- http://www.fluoride-history.de/index.htm --- ---------------------------------------------------- >He created them in the form of their eggs, first, because otherwise they >had killed each other before they had been able to lay eggs. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> W_B Nope, eggs are a for of reproduction. > 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the > earth across the firmament of the heavens." Eggs can't fly. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >He created them in the form of their eggs, first, because otherwise they > >had killed each other before they had been able to lay eggs. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the > > earth across the firmament of the heavens." First came the plan (20), then the action (21) which created the eggs first for safety reasons. > Eggs can't fly. Of course they can ;-) Signature-History of fluorine, fluoride and fluoridation-: --- http://www.fluoride-history.de/index.htm --- ---------------------------------------------------- It's about the frequency at which you consume them rather than quantity. Try and consume them at mealtimes. >> > 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the >> > earth across the firmament of the heavens." > >First came the plan (20), then the action (21) which created the eggs >first for safety reasons. That's just silly. Eggs are more dangerous, salmonella and all that... >> Eggs can't fly. > >Of course they can ;-) when heaved gently from ones hand ? <hehe> -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >He created them in the form of their eggs, first, because otherwise they > >had killed each other before they had been able to lay eggs. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Eggs can't fly. REPLY True, cows cannot fly either thank goodness. Joel > -- > > W_B > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com What is the first palindrome expressed in the Bible? REPLY Its in Genesis. "Madam I'm Adam." > > >Well, possibly trying to determine which came first, the egg or the hen may > > >never be determined. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > --- http://www.fluoride-history.de/index.htm --- > ---------------------------------------------------- > Well, possibly trying to determine which came first, the egg or the hen may > never be determined. Reptile egg. >But I have determined what comes first, right or > wrong, the main meal or the dessert. Eating the dessert first allows for [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Take out the G'RBAGE > > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >even if you do brush 3 times a day on a consistent basis can you still >indulge in the cola and sweet stuff....without doing much damage ? Probably, especially if you brush right after sweets. But in the long run sugar will likely get ya. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com "even if you do brush 3 times a day on a consistent basis can you still indulge in the cola and sweet stuff....without doing much damage ?" Brushing after every, single episode of sugar/carbohydrate intake might do it, or rinsing with a Fluoride mouthwash thoroughly. But what're you gonna do, follow each swallow of Coke with a shot of Act? Or baking soda? W_B nailed it: for the most part, for most people, the answer to your question is no. Suck on Sucrose-based breath mints all day and brush all you want, I'll be making you dentures in a couple years. On the other hand, a couple cans of pop consumed over one hour total/day, probably no problem. The pathogenesis of tooth decay is more complicated than you'd think (check out http://crobm.iadrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/13/2/126 for a discussion by a dude I work with) and the fact is that every sugar episode drops the pH in your mouth for periods of time that will vary depending on what the intake is and your own oral microecology. Like Joel said, it depends a lot on the character of your intake. Frequent, minor sugar/other carbohydrate intake - like a bank teller who keeps a Pepsi on the counter all day - will slaughter your teeth. On the other hand, you can eat an entire wedding cake in 5 minutes and it won't matter. It ain't the amount, it's the frequency. Your saliva contains natural buffers and the pH in your mouth will eventually climb back up even without assistance from toothpaste or other tactics. But if you drop that "Stephan Curve" often enough, the bacteria are gonna have a party, and your teeth are gonna be the main course. > even if you do brush 3 times a day on a consistent basis can you still > indulge in the cola and sweet stuff....without doing much damage ? NO. If you sip on soda and nibble throughout the day, you will not be able to brush enough to stop decay. Every sip and nibble is good for 20 minutes of decay activity. Drinks and desserts with meals, followed by brushing, will not be a problem. sip & nibble = drill & fill Fawks |
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