A question for you learned folk. My wife started up on a new dental
plan thru work, and signed on with one of the "in plan" dentists. Well
she got a comprehensive yesterday, including full panoramic xrays, and
came home crying. The proposed treatment incl. 5 crowns and 2 fillings,
almost 5K worth. Now it's been a little over a year since her last
checkup, and the previous dentist ( we've relocated to Oregon ), said
there were a couple of fillings to monitor, no big deal. My wife's
pretty good about brushing,flossing, keeping sugar intake low. The
dentist after noticing my wife was a little upset, said the treatment
could be extended over a couple of years to allow the insurance to pick
up more of the cost. Well if crowns are in order now, will waiting a
couple of more years on some of this put us into root canal territory?
I mean either it's serious or it isn't, right? My question is this.
Would I be well advised to get a second opinion? Essentially, leaving
this dentist for another. I hate to suspect everything isn't on the up
and up, but how can I be sure? This may mean nothing, but the dentists
office was very posh. It got me thinking, what pays for the fancy
office, and the prime downtown location. Ok, maybe reading in more than
is there.. Your thoughts,comments?
Thanks,
J.I.
>A question for you learned folk. My wife started up on a new dental
>plan thru work, and signed on with one of the "in plan" dentists. Well
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>Thanks,
>J.I.
>My wife started up on a new dental
>plan thru work, and signed on with one of the "in plan" dentists.
HMO, PPO ?
Suspect bait & switch.
Get a second opinion from an ''out of plan'' dentist.
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Oh jeez, sorry about that.
What is described may be optional or optimal treatment.
Who knows.
Joel
> A question for you learned folk. My wife started up on a new dental
> plan thru work, and signed on with one of the "in plan" dentists. Well
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> Thanks,
> J.I.
figgy - 05 May 2005 00:56 GMT
Only the dentist in question knows for sure, one would assume,
therefore the second opinion. This dentist's "bedside manner", in my
wife's opinion, came across as a bit cold. So, even if the diagnosis is
indeed accurate, which at this point is conjecture, it may be for the
best that they part ways. Her next dentist will definitely be "out of
plan". Thankyou all for your comments.
Jeff
> A question for you learned folk. My wife started up on a new dental
> plan thru work, and signed on with one of the "in plan" dentists. Well
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> Thanks,
> J.I.
Get a second opinion. Sometimes it's style, personality--but if
something seems wrong, go with your gut.
Steve

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718-258-5001
>A question for you learned folk. My wife started up on a new dental
> plan thru work, and signed on with one of the "in plan" dentists. Well
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> Thanks,
> J.I.
Find a holistic/alternative dentist and be aware of both mercury amalgam and
root canals.
http://www.toothwisdom.net/r.root_canals.html
http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root
ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. This is
because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in
the minute tubules of a tooth. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the
body causing potential harm.
An area of residual infection which is left under the gum, usually
following, but sometimes a long time after an extraction can cause problems.
Symptoms can be coincided with the energetic links to the body as well as
localised problems.
http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm
http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm
http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html
http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html
http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm
http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm
http://www.cfsn.com/maz/
http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html
http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm
http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm
http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html
http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html
http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html
http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm
http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html
Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A
dead
or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of
removing the bacteria once they are in there.
http://www.toothwisdom.net/
Toxicity from Root Canals
The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source
of
toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal
therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have
abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the
vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to
clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert
material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful;
however,
the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several
million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic
type
fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of
the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It
services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve
and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the
flow
of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This
creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of
plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation
is
from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no
irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many
more
reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal
tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what
happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages
becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now
becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you
want?
Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are
said
to be the cadavers of the body.
I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to
their
decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I
respect this, and I always discuss the consequences.
The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually
sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at
the
root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a
complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject.
Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable
substitution
for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized
dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out
against
root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the
patient
make that decision after explaining all pros and cons.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
>California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry.
>(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be
>required to post a warning about the dangers of mercury in their dental
>fillings. A California Superior court judge finalized the language for
>the warning to be posted in dentists' offices here today.
>The warning will read as follows:
>Notice to Patients, Proposition 65:
>Warning on dental amalgams, used in many dental fillings, causes exposure
>to mercury, a chemical known to the state of California to cause birth
>defects or other reproductive harm.
>Root canal treatments and restorations including fillings, crowns and
>bridges, use chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer.
>The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has studied the situation and
>approved for use all dental restorative materials.
>Consult your dentist to determine which materials are appropriate for your
>treatment.
>The exact language of the warning was argued and then finalized before
>Superior Court Judge James A. Robertson II between the California Dental
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>mercury dental fillings and root canals. The agreement also allows non-CDA
>dentists to opt in to the agreement and post the warning.
>The warning is the result of a lawsuit filed by The Law Offices of Shawn
>Khorrami on behalf of As You Sow, a not-for-profit foundation dedicated to
>advocacy and activism in the public interest.
>"This is the first admission by organized dentistry that amalgams pose a
>potential health risk," says Shawn Khorrami, lead attorney. "The only
>problem is that it's about 100 years too late."
>This California consent judgment follows on the heels of recent lawsuits
>filed in Georgia, Texas, Ohio and Los Angeles, California charging that
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>risks to certain users. Mercury, a highly toxic substance, is the most
>widely used substance in dental fillings today.
>The use of mercury-based thimerosal in vaccines also has been the source
>of the recent controversy in the Homeland Security legislation.
>Khorrami filed the lawsuit against Roger Fieldman D.D.S., Inc., the
>Citadel Dental Group, Inc. dental offices, dental laboratories and
>private dental schools and training programs with more than nine
>employees. The suit won the enforcement of Proposition 65, Safe Drinking
>Water and Toxics Enforcement Act [Health & Safety Code § 25249.6].
>Proposition 65 requires that a clear and reasonable warning be provided to
>persons prior to their exposure to a chemical known to cause cancer or
>reproductive harm. This statute lists mercury, contained in dental
>amalgam, as a substance that can cause reproductive toxicity. The lawsuit
>was based on the absence of warnings to patients treated with amalgam
>restorative materials in dental offices.
>The judgment on Proposition 65 mandates that all dental offices with more
>than nine employees provide warnings on the dangers of Mercury dental
>fillings to patients. Those in non-compliance could incur a fine of up to
>$2,500 per day.
>Press may contact: Jackie Gladfelter at 650-218-1856 or D. Infusino at
>415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111.
LL/Jan
Joel M. Eichen - 05 May 2005 00:30 GMT
Any links on the internet?
> >A question for you learned folk. My wife started up on a new dental
> > plan thru work, and signed on with one of the "in plan" dentists. Well
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> ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. This is
> because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in
> the minute tubules of a tooth. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the
> body causing potential harm.
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>
> LL/Jan
>A question for you learned folk. My wife started up on a new dental
>plan thru work, and signed on with one of the "in plan" dentists. Well
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>Thanks,
>J.I.
Get a second opinion from someone who is NOT in the "plan"
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
Joel M. Eichen - 05 May 2005 00:31 GMT
> Get a second opinion from someone who is NOT in the "plan"
> ..
If a small guy starts shouting,
"Hey Boss! Look! Da Plan Da Plan,"
then watch out.
Joel
> Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
> Troy, Michigan, USA
>
> I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.