Heard on Paul Harvey News the other day about meth mouth: "makes your
teeth look like a picket fence," and the prisons (which are filled with
meth users) are using up a disproportionate amount of their budgeted
health care funds just on that (your tax dollars at work).
Was wondering if the stuff ruins teeth because those people quit
taking care of them, or maybe they grind them all the time, or something
else.
There was also a recent article regarding same in the local paper,
which told of a guy in prison, around 30, who'd never had a cavity at
checkups until he got on that stuff and now a short time later he has no
teeth.
I'm quite sure they don't generally eat the stuff or put it in their
mouth, so why does it wreak total havoc on teeth like that?
(although I'm sure anyone putting that stuff in their body isn't real
concerned about health, dental or other)
denttech - 22 Apr 2005 03:23 GMT
> Heard on Paul Harvey News the other day about meth mouth: "makes your
> teeth look like a picket fence," and the prisons (which are filled with
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> (although I'm sure anyone putting that stuff in their body isn't real
> concerned about health, dental or other)
denttech - 22 Apr 2005 03:33 GMT
I am not a dentist or a doctor but I have seen these folks up close and
have also seen the transition from normal everday joe to meth addict.
Meth is essentially a combination of very very bad chemicals that are
mixed together. Most of the ingredients alone would be enough to kill
you in large enough doses. The chemicals eat away at your whole body
not just your teeth. I would almost gurantee that if a friend started
using it today you would not recognize them in 2 years. This stuff is
killing us in the mid-west. I personally have a friend that has some
real problems with the meth.... He is a graduate from U of I in
Engineering, had his whole life in front of him. Now he lives at home
with his parents and tries to stay out of jail......
However I must vent a little: While these drugs are killing people and
wasting lives the cops still make sure they pull over everyone they can
for seat belt violations, 6 year old kids not in booster seats, Not
using a turning signal (in a town of only a few thousand) etc...
etc...etc... I just sometimes wonder where the governments priorities
are..... Is it protecting us or getting our money...
carabelli - 22 Apr 2005 03:43 GMT
>I am not a dentist or a doctor but I have seen these folks up close and
> have also seen the transition from normal everday joe to meth addict.
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> using a turning signal (in a town of only a few thousand) etc...
> etc...etc...
I just sometimes wonder where the governments priorities
> are..... Is it protecting us or getting our money...
I've been around long enough to see the humor in the last statement. They
think it's both, fail at the first and excel at the second. BTW, I think
the original idea was to represent us.
OTOH, you won't just waltz in and buy your Pseudofed in Missouri anymore.
carabelli
denttech - 22 Apr 2005 03:55 GMT
I had heard at one time that meth was invented by the Germans in WWII
as a way to keep the troops up and going for days at a time. Not sure
how much truth there is to that but it makes for an interesting story.
Around here they are cracking down on the Anhydrous Ammonia (not sure
if that is spelled right). These fools will actually go out and try to
drill holes into the tanks just to get this stuff... Seems like every
couple months there is a shoot-out or they find some poor fool passed
out next to a tank becuase they inhaled the crap....
Shyster - 22 Apr 2005 21:16 GMT
> I had heard at one time that meth was invented by the Germans in WWII
> as a way to keep the troops up and going for days at a time. Not sure
> how much truth there is to that but it makes for an interesting story.
It's true and was used for that orginally. Benzedrine(levo) I believe was
developed in the 1930's then dextro and meth. All are still legal and used
in medicine, not to mention Ritalin. When I was at Uni many people used
these drugs and they were as common as Prozac is today yet I've only known
of a couple of cases of psychosis. All of them are worse imo than cocaine.
> Around here they are cracking down on the Anhydrous Ammonia (not sure
> if that is spelled right).
It's very easy to manufacture. We had a professor when I was a student
arrested for making Meth and Qualudes.
These fools will actually go out and try to
> drill holes into the tanks just to get this stuff... Seems like every
> couple months there is a shoot-out or they find some poor fool passed
> out next to a tank becuase they inhaled the crap....
W_B - 22 Apr 2005 15:50 GMT
>I just sometimes wonder where the governments priorities
>are..... Is it protecting us or getting our money...
It's the latter.
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Shyster - 22 Apr 2005 21:08 GMT
> Heard on Paul Harvey News the other day about meth mouth: "makes your
> teeth look like a picket fence," and the prisons (which are filled with
> meth users) are using up a disproportionate amount of their budgeted
> health care funds just on that (your tax dollars at work).
Yes, I'm sure the level of care is just like the Hollywood star dentist's
give haha
> Was wondering if the stuff ruins teeth because those people quit
> taking care of them, or maybe they grind them all the time, or something
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> checkups until he got on that stuff and now a short time later he has no
> teeth.
You're forgetting something. In addition to not taking care (not always) and
grinding, Methamphetemine constricts blood vessels and dries out the mouth
which leads to decay.
BTW, Methamphetamine is a legal drug still used in medicine.
> I'm quite sure they don't generally eat the stuff or put it in their
> mouth, so why does it wreak total havoc on teeth like that?
> (although I'm sure anyone putting that stuff in their body isn't real
> concerned about health, dental or other)
Some of these problems with tooth decay from dry mouth also happens to
normal people on medication as well.
W_B - 25 Apr 2005 16:40 GMT
>BTW, Methamphetamine is a legal drug still used in medicine.
There is no accepted medical use for methamphetamine.
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NOYB - 25 Apr 2005 16:49 GMT
>>BTW, Methamphetamine is a legal drug still used in medicine.
>
> There is no accepted medical use for methamphetamine.
There is legislation in the works up in Minnesota to ban OTC pseudoephedrine
in tablet form. Addicts and dealers are grinding it up and converting it to
a methamphetamine.
I used to be hooked on Sudafed 12-hr at night time for chronic nasal
congestion. One trip to the ER with A-fib last November convinced me that a
stuffy nose is preferable to cardiac arrest.
Stimulants of any kind can be bad news for people with hearts that are prone
to arrhythmias.
James Goforth - 26 Apr 2005 16:24 GMT
Pardon my naivete, but what is "A-fib?"
Now you've got me a little concerned, I recently began taking
Allegra-D daily for allergies, and the sheet mentions how it has a "high
amount of pseudoephedrine."
Is it known (or suspected) to actually cause heart problems over time
or only to exacerbate pre-existing conditions?
I might be taking the stuff for the rest of my life.
NOYB - 26 Apr 2005 17:38 GMT
> Pardon my naivete, but what is "A-fib?"
> Now you've got me a little concerned, I recently began taking
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> or only to exacerbate pre-existing conditions?
> I might be taking the stuff for the rest of my life.
Atrial fibrillation. I haven't read any studies indicating that long-term
use of pseudoephedrine will pose a risk to people who don't have certain
predisposing conditions. However, folks with high blood pressure, and folks
with a history of irregular heartbeats (arrhythmias) should avoid
pseudoephedrine unless directed otherwise by their physician.
garrison@efn.org - 11 May 2005 04:08 GMT
> > Pardon my naivete, but what is "A-fib?"
> > Now you've got me a little concerned, I recently began taking
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> with a history of irregular heartbeats (arrhythmias) should avoid
> pseudoephedrine unless directed otherwise by their physician.
When I was a kid, my Dad used to take "Coricedin" for colds, then
suddenly stopped taking them after a while. I never wondered why, and
when I had a really
nasty cold, I decided to try the Coricedin. Well, it fixed my cold
symptoms right up and I was happy, but after the third dosing my heart
started involuntary fluttering and that was it for my using Coricedin!
Joel M. Eichen - 26 Apr 2005 18:22 GMT
> Pardon my naivete, but what is "A-fib?"
A-fib is what Jan Drew tells quite often around here ......
Joel
> Now you've got me a little concerned, I recently began taking
> Allegra-D daily for allergies, and the sheet mentions how it has a "high
> amount of pseudoephedrine."
> Is it known (or suspected) to actually cause heart problems over time
> or only to exacerbate pre-existing conditions?
> I might be taking the stuff for the rest of my life.
Joel M. Eichen - 25 Apr 2005 16:55 GMT
> >BTW, Methamphetamine is a legal drug still used in medicine.
>
> There is no accepted medical use for methamphetamine.
REPLY
OK, METH MOUTH, I thought it said math mouth ......
Joel
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kureforcrohns@sbcglobal.net - 29 Apr 2005 02:25 GMT
I would like to add Bad Mouth to Med Mouth.
It is notorious for causing crohns and Ulcerative Colitis to the
unsuspecting.
Gail
> > >BTW, Methamphetamine is a legal drug still used in medicine.
> >
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> > Take out the G'RBAGE
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