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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / May 2005Wooohoo! I'm buying made in USA again
Zorcor (made in USA by Kodak) will be replacing my Septocaine (made in France by Septodont). > Zorcor (made in USA by Kodak) will be replacing my Septocaine (made in > France by Septodont). Forgot to mention... Both are 4% articaine with 1:100,000 epi. >> Zorcor (made in USA by Kodak) will be replacing my Septocaine (made in >> France by Septodont). > >Forgot to mention... >Both are 4% articaine with 1:100,000 epi. Kewl, I am switching too ! -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>> Zorcor (made in USA by Kodak) will be replacing my Septocaine (made in >>> France by Septodont). [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > Kewl, I am switching too ! Whoops! Zorcaine...not Zorcor. Whats the pricing difference? > >>> Zorcor (made in USA by Kodak) will be replacing my Septocaine (made in > >>> France by Septodont). [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Whoops! Zorcaine...not Zorcor. $2 more for 50 carps. But the Zorcaine folks agreed to meet the lower price for the first order. > Whats the pricing difference? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Whoops! Zorcaine...not Zorcor. Good news, I live in Kodaktown. Never used arti. - talk to me! Great stuff. Helps on those "hard to numb patients". I use it exclusively on the mandibular arch. On the second bicuspid forward, I almost never need to do a block, just infiltrate on the buccal (and sometimes a little on the lingual). For scalings, I don't do a block either. It dissipates very well through the cortical plate. I had one case of transient parasthesia that resolved completely in 2 weeks with high-dose NSAIDS. I bumped the nerve on insertion and the patient felt the "electric shock" feeling. I withdrew and repositioned, but it still left some residual numbness. I dunno if it was the needle trauma or the articaine, but that was the only case I've had in a year and half of using the stuff. > Good news, I live in Kodaktown. Never used arti. - talk to me! I have had that with Mepivicaine.  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Great stuff. Helps on those "hard to numb patients". I use it exclusively > on the mandibular arch. On the second bicuspid forward, I almost never [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >> Good news, I live in Kodaktown. Never used arti. - talk to me! > I had one case of transient parasthesia that resolved completely in 2 weeks > with high-dose NSAIDS. I bumped the nerve on insertion and the patient felt > the "electric shock" feeling. I withdrew and repositioned, but it still > left some residual numbness. I dunno if it was the needle trauma or the > articaine, but that was the only case I've had in a year and half of using > the stuff. As SFawks would say: it is likely it was the 4% solution; higher concentration does more damage, no matter what chemical it is. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH Ken Reed views it as a significant risk factor for 4% anesthetic solutions. Stanley Malamed does not act like it is a big deal. After two cases with Citanest Forte in less than 100 IANB's, I tend to agree with Dr. Reed. One respected endodontist that I know says it works better on 'hot' teeth. No real research is cited. JME, Fawks >> I had one case of transient parasthesia that resolved completely in 2 weeks >>with high-dose NSAIDS. I bumped the nerve on insertion and the patient felt [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > concentration does more damage, no matter what chemical it is. > SP According to: Wynn, Bergman, & Meiller in JAGD Nov/Dec 2003: Conclusion: "Although retrospective and prospective information suggest that articaine has a slightly greater or equal incidence compared with other local anesthetics regarding the incidence of parethesia, the authors are not hesitant in using articaine in many situations." They did a literature search and came to the conclusion that articaine caries NO greater risk of complication than any other local anesthetic. I would be happy to share the entire article with any of the regulars here. The only times patients of mine developed paresthesia after LA, I was using Mepivicaine with no vasoconstrictor. I had a case last summer while using Lidocaine with 1:100,000 epi, that the patient developed an apparent hematoma within 2-3 minutes of the injection. The patient swelled up drastically and immediately went into trismus. It resolved without incident in a few days. I probably caught a vessel back behind the maxillary while doing a SA injection. Scary to the patient, disappointing to the dentist. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > Ken Reed views it as a significant risk factor for 4% anesthetic [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> concentration does more damage, no matter what chemical it is. >> SP Hypertonic -- lysis of cells. That's why the one dentist used a 1% solution first. SignatureChristopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com >> I had one case of transient parasthesia that resolved completely in 2 weeks >>with high-dose NSAIDS. I bumped the nerve on insertion and the patient felt [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > concentration does more damage, no matter what chemical it is. > SP nonsense Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Hypertonic -- lysis of cells. That's why the one dentist used a 1% > solution > first. How about confucianism? > www.lds.org > www.mormons.com [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> concentration does more damage, no matter what chemical it is. >> SP >Good news, I live in Kodaktown. Never used arti. - talk to me! IMO the best advantage of articaine is the rapid onset. Downside is the 4% solution and lower maximum dose. Good stuff. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Agree fully Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >>Good news, I live in Kodaktown. Never used arti. - talk to me! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Cool. Gonna get me some. OK for older pts.? > Cool. Gonna get me some. OK for older pts.? I practice in God's waiting room (aka--Florida). All I see are "older patients". Of course, the older patients aren't the ones who usually have a hard time getting numb. Be careful! Articane is an amide/ester combo, methemoglobinemia is possible (and documented) if too much is used or it's injected into one of the big red things. > Be careful! Articane is an amide/ester combo, methemoglobinemia is possible > (and documented) if too much is used or it's injected into one of the big > red things. Is this true of _ALL_ the manufacturers' versions (eg Septocaine, Ultracaine)? Thanks SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH > IMO the best advantage of articaine is the rapid onset. > Downside is the 4% solution and lower maximum dose. Yes: Iben (anesthesia dude from Toronto) says it should not be used on children: somnolence. ONE CARPULE maximum on young children. Ah... Soooo SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH Great for kids, no IAN blocks, just buccal infiltration. Works VERY will on infected/abscessed teeth (infiltration). The lower Ph of the area doesn't effect it as in other types of local anesthetics. > Great for kids, no IAN blocks, just buccal infiltration. Must be doin' somthin' wrong... I haven't found this to be the case. I've had to block for deciduous MO and DO lesions; if I don't, they get tears in their eyes. One dude said the trick is to aim for the mental foramen and then massage the area so it diffuses in. I've tried that as well; I still need to block. As an OMFS, I cannot for the life of me see how you could remove lower molars without a block, even using articane. Thanks SP >Works VERY will on > infected/abscessed teeth (infiltration). The lower Ph of the area doesn't > effect it as in other types of local anesthetics. SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH Only on kids (up to 13) do I not have to do the block, also use nitrous. Have to do the blocks on adults (use lidocaine for the block) but buccal infiltration with Septo.(too afraid of prolonged anesth with a Septo block.) Otherwise if the tooth isn't a third molar, can use the buccal infiltration, but have to wait a good 10min for good anesthesia. Wired together a 20 something young man who had a dentoalveolar fx, entire anterolateral alveolus fractured from #6-9, teeth all in place. Gave one carpule of Septo, patient stated that even his palate was numb! No other anesthesia/sedation used, went great. IMHO it seems to work better with a little longer waiting time. > Only on kids (up to 13) do I not have to do the block, also use nitrous. > Have to do the blocks on adults (use lidocaine for the block) but buccal > infiltration with Septo.(too afraid of prolonged anesth with a Septo block.) > Otherwise if the tooth isn't a third molar, can use the buccal > infiltration, but have to wait a good 10min for good anesthesia. We use Septocaine N (1/200 000) for mandibular blocks and we haven't had problems. It is the only anesth I use on 'adults'. I use Lido with epi or even Citanest Plain on the kids (higher quantity of product usable over the course of the Tx). If I miss a block with 1.7cc Septo N on a 6 year old, I'm basically knackered for the treatment on him/her for that day. If I miss it with Lido, I can give another two. > Wired together a 20 something young man who had a dentoalveolar fx, entire > anterolateral alveolus fractured from #6-9, teeth all in place. Barroom Blitz? Lemmee see: for me that's 2-1, 1-1, 1-2 and 1-3. !!!! 1-3 ?!?!!? Broke the whole maxilla up to the apex of the UR canine?!?!?!?. That musta been a chair leg or a baseball bat what hit 'im sqare whilst a buddy was holdin' 'im down... Or W_B hit 'im... He kinda gets upset over missed appointments.... >. Gave one > carpule of Septo, patient stated that even his palate was numb! No other > anesthesia/sedation used, went great. Could it be that you actually went through to the palatal side inside the broken osseous crack? If you're injecting slowly and advancing slowly, that could be possible. _I_ would have taken a 27 guage long, bent it to 45deg, and headed for the greater palatal foramen (I'd aim just distal to the UR 2nd Molar, or your #2, in the ditch between horizontal and vertical palate). If I could get a good second division block, he would've been fine for the procedure. We do this in perio when we can. > IMHO it seems to work better with a little longer waiting time. That's probably part of the problem 'chez-nous'. We only have two treatment rooms; mine and the hygienist's room, so we can't just let 'em freeze up for 1/2 hour whilst we do something else. So we tend to do allot of intraosseous where and when we can, if the block is taking time. I use X-Tip in the posterior hard to get at places(HATE it), and the original Stabident everywhere else(LOVE it). We use articaine there, as well. You're not supposed to inject a 4% sol'n that contains vasoconstrictor with intraosseous, I know. In my experience,if you in...ject..... slow....ly and never more that about 1/3 carpule, it goes OK, and I've never had any problems like osteonecrosis or circulatory complications. We never do this if there is bone loss or severe cardio problems. I would be interested in any comments to the above that you would have, and also what size and make of needles you use for blocks and infiltrations. Thanks SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH Fracture patient fell on his face in a parking lot, stone cold sober, good kid just clumsy. Anesthetic was just under the unattached mucosa, infiltrated, without advancing into the bone at all. Vern > Fracture patient fell on his face in a parking lot, stone cold sober, good > kid just clumsy. > Anesthetic was just under the unattached mucosa, infiltrated, without > advancing into the bone at all. > > Vern Wow.... He should be wearin' a helmet permanently. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH -- > I would be interested in any comments to the above that you would have, > and also what size and make of needles you use for blocks and > infiltrations. 25 ga for everything >-- > I would be interested in any comments to the above that you would have, >> and also what size and make of needles you use for blocks and >> infiltrations. > >25 ga for everything Same here, except for the occasional 30 ga on kiddies and upper anteriors. (just because we have so many left over) -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com I've been using 25 ga. Astra's. Is anything sharper? Fawks >>-- > I would be interested in any comments to the above that you would have, >> >>>and also what size and make of needles you use for blocks and >>>infiltrations. >>25 ga for everything > Same here, except for the occasional 30 ga on kiddies > and upper anteriors. > (just because we have so many left over) > -- > > W_B The more obtuse the angle of the bevel (greater sharpness), the thinner the point and the sooner it gets dull. Really sharp needles need to be changed every time you tap the end on bone. Not saying we should use dull needles, just pointing out that in the search for ever sharper needles, we end up having to change them more often. For the lay-person reading this, we use the same needle on the same patient 1-6 times depending on how many teeth we are working on. We do not use the same needle on another patient. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > I've been using 25 ga. Astra's. Is anything sharper? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> W_B One bone hit or three tissue sticks and I get a new needle. (I use quite a few needles) Fawks > The more obtuse the angle of the bevel (greater sharpness), the thinner the > point and the sooner it gets dull. Really sharp needles need to be changed [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 1-6 times depending on how many teeth we are working on. We do not use the > same needle on another patient. agreed Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > One bone hit or three tissue sticks and I get a new needle. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> patient 1-6 times depending on how many teeth we are working on. We do >> not use the same needle on another patient. > agreed Thanks for all your input SP I don't get why the 25 guage needles, though. Big (unnecessary) hole... Thanks again SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH Larger lumen is easier to aspirate. Studies continually show that the patient cannot tell the difference between a 25 ga and a 30 ga needle. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >> agreed [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Thanks again > SP Exactly. It is the sharpness of the point, not the diameter of the needle. Two more reasons: 25's do not deflect much at all. Your number of single injection blocks will increase noticeably. And....broken needle cases in dentistry *never* have involved a 25 ga. (at least in the last 30 years). Fawks > Larger lumen is easier to aspirate. Studies continually show that the > patient cannot tell the difference between a 25 ga and a 30 ga needle. Any online links to studies? That would be interesting. I presume it's true, but would like to read it. SignatureChristopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com Larger lumen is easier to aspirate. Studies continually show that the patient cannot tell the difference between a 25 ga and a 30 ga needle. You do the search, I don't have time. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Any online links to studies? That would be interesting. I presume it's > true, > but would like to read it. > > Larger lumen is easier to aspirate. Studies continually show that the > patient cannot tell the difference between a 25 ga and a 30 ga needle. > You do the search, I don't have time. Pharmacotherapy. 2002 Sep;22(9):1105-9. Related Articles, Links Comparison of two needle sizes for subcutaneous administration of enoxaparin: effects on size of hematomas and pain on injection. Robb DM, Kanji Z. Pharmacy Department, Lions Gate Hospital, North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. STUDY OBJECTIVE: To determine whether use of a smaller needle size for subcutaneous injection of enoxaparin would reduce the size of injection-site hematomas and/or decrease the pain of injection. DESIGN: Prospective, randomized trial. SETTING: Community hospital in North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. PATIENTS: One hundred twenty-four patients with unstable angina or non-Q-wave myocardial infarction who were administered enoxaparin for anticoagulation. INTERVENTION: Each patient was randomly assigned to one of two groups. One group received enoxaparin injections with a 30-gauge, 5/16-inch insulin syringe, and the other group was injected with a 26-gauge, 3/8-inch tuberculin syringe. MEASUREMENTS AND MAIN RESULTS: Participating nurses used standard measuring tape to determine the largest diameter of each hematoma. Pain was assessed with a 10-unit numeric scale. The two groups did not differ significantly with regard to either the mean size of the largest hematoma/patient (4.2 cm in the insulin-syringe group vs 3.8 cm in the tuberculin-syringe group, p=0.68) or the mean pain score (0.3 in the insulin-syringe group vs 0.5 in the tuberculin-syringe group, p=0.10). CONCLUSIONS: Use of a 30-gauge, 5/16-inch insulin syringe instead of a 26-gauge, 3/8-inch tuberculin syringe does not significantly reduce either hematoma size or pain of injection. A larger study is required to determine whether needle size affects the frequency of hematoma formation. >> agreed > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Thanks again >SP Less needle deflection, less missed blocks, no perceptible difference to the patient. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Ah, the good old days. Boil em up (if you felt like it) and resharpen the needle with a whetstone. Needles last for a year or so of moderate volume practice back then? SignatureChristopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com One bone hit or three tissue sticks and I get a new needle. (I use quite a few needles) Fawks Dr Steve wrote: > The more obtuse the angle of the bevel (greater sharpness), the thinner the > point and the sooner it gets dull. Really sharp needles need to be changed [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 1-6 times depending on how many teeth we are working on. We do not use the > same needle on another patient. > Ah, the good old days. Boil em up (if you felt like it) and resharpen the > needle with a whetstone. Needles last for a year or so of moderate volume > practice back then? And there were no small lumen needles either. > Ah, the good old days. Boil em up (if you felt like it) and resharpen the > needle with a whetstone. Needles last for a year or so of moderate volume > practice back then? We'd have to consult the historical record. Just how old do ya think we are, anywho? Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 > > Ah, the good old days. Boil em up (if you felt like it) and resharpen the > > needle with a whetstone. Needles last for a year or so of moderate volume [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Steve Did what SN describes here actually really happen? Boiling NEEDLES? I know they re-used the glass syringes, but surely not the needles? Thanks SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH >>>Ah, the good old days. Boil em up (if you felt like it) and resharpen the >>>needle with a whetstone. Needles last for a year or so of moderate volume [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks > SP They certainly did. I like to listen to the discussion of 25 vs 27 vs 30 ga. needles. Some of these harpoons might have been maybe 19 or 21. When I bought my practice the old guy still had a couple of the syringes around. I shudda saved them for yucks. By the time I entered dental school in '73, all they had were single-use needles. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >> > Ah, the good old days. Boil em up (if you felt like it) and resharpen the >> > needle with a whetstone. Needles last for a year or so of moderate volume [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Thanks >SP Yes, this is what was done commonly. .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting. >> Ah, the good old days. Boil em up (if you felt like it) and resharpen the >> needle with a whetstone. Needles last for a year or so of moderate volume [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Steve Joel would know. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com My father-in-law graduated from dental school in 1939. He died in 1971 before I started dating his daughter, but I still ended up with a few items after I got out of school. I got some very nice glass syringes with needles of such manufacture that they do not seem to be disposable. There were several "sterilizers" that were actually just different means of cleaning or disinfection. Even in the 70's it was common to use glutaraldehyde solutions in glass trays to 'sterilize' many dental instruments, though disposable needles were a given by that time. Now, I throw it away or run it through the autoclave no matter what it is. Fawks >>>Ah, the good old days. Boil em up (if you felt like it) and resharpen the >>>needle with a whetstone. Needles last for a year or so of moderate volume [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > W_B > My father-in-law graduated from dental school in 1939. He died in 1971 > before I started dating his daughter, but I still ended up with a few [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Fawks It's actually worse than that. In the 70's, I'm not sure glutaraldehydes were widely used in dentistry. In dental school we used Zephirin chloride, which was probably not much better than Listerine. Steve >>>> Ah, the good old days. Boil em up (if you felt like it) and >>>> resharpen the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Joel would know. SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 I've asked my various dentists. One uses 27, puts in 3% mepivicaine. Another puts in some "light anaesthesia" with a 30, I think it was 1% prilocaine. And then pumps in 4% marcaine. One oral surgeon who worked on me used 1% lido. What's the advantages of 25? Good delivery flow, and doesn't terrify the patient too badly? SignatureChristopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com 25 ga for everything There is NO advantage to using the smaller needles. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > I've asked my various dentists. One uses 27, puts in 3% mepivicaine. > Another puts in some "light anaesthesia" with a 30, I think it was 1% [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > What's the advantages of 25? Good delivery flow, and doesn't terrify the > patient too badly? NO THANK YOU. Want to learn more about Hinduism? > www.lds.org > www.mormons.com > > 25 ga for everything Marcaine is 0.5%. Articaine and Citanest come in 4%. Lido is usually 2%. 25's don't deflect on insertion, aspirate better, and don't BREAK! Fawks > I've asked my various dentists. One uses 27, puts in 3% mepivicaine. > Another puts in some "light anaesthesia" with a 30, I think it was 1% [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > What's the advantages of 25? Good delivery flow, and doesn't terrify the > patient too badly? 27 Gauge for just about everything. Anesthetic probably infiltrated through the buccal fracture line to anesthetize the palate. I use the 2nd division blocks for midface fractures and rhinoplasties, really great anesthesia and helps decrease blood loss. No experience with intra-osseous technique. I do respect those who treat wide awake patients with local only, doing the full gambit of restorative dentistry. Was a general dentist a long time before OMFS training, truly an art form few if any other providers (non dentist) understand. To keep a terrified patient comfortable and pain free adult or child is really a challenge. I get a lot of satisfaction in a good anesthesia/sedation technique. Most patients wake up wanting to know when the surgery is going to happen! Makes it all worth while, at least to me. > I get a lot of satisfaction in a good anesthesia/sedation technique. Most > patients wake up wanting to know when the surgery is going to happen! Makes > it all worth while, at least to me. Thanks for your input. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH > > Zorcor (made in USA by Kodak) will be replacing my Septocaine (made in > > France by Septodont). > > Forgot to mention... > Both are 4% articaine with 1:100,000 epi. You can also get Septcaine N which is 1:200 000 epi. This is what I use. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH |
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