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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / April 2005How Many Dentists Here Have Been Sued For Malpractise?
I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need answer. If you've been sued did you win or lose? I'll assume Joel's been sued since I seem to have touched a nerve :o) > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at > least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need answer. > If you've been sued did you win or lose? > > I'll assume Joel's been sued since I seem to have touched a nerve :o) This year will be my twentyfirst year of practice. Never been sued. Never even had a complaint filed. I hear that the average here is one out of every ten get sued. Jorge Bonilla, DMD > > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise > for at [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > out of every ten get sued. > Jorge Bonilla, DMD That's quite a high number. The Insurance company usually settles because if it goes to trial the plantiff wins 80% of the time. >> > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise >> for at [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > if > it goes to trial the plantiff wins 80% of the time. Typically, a plaintiff's attorney won't go to trial unless the state dental peer review board thinks that the patient might have a case. So I'm surprised that the number is that low. I figured it would be in the mid-90's. I guess there are some dumb attorneys who sue anyhow...even when it's obvious to any prudent fellow that there's no case. Around here, before sueing, one needs a "Cerificate of Merit," that is someone outside the issue putting their name on the line! Joel > >> > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise > >> for at [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > mid-90's. I guess there are some dumb attorneys who sue anyhow...even when > it's obvious to any prudent fellow that there's no case. > > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise > for at [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > out of every ten get sued. > Jorge Bonilla, DMD 10% of all dentists have been sued and they are still using amalgam? That is unbelievable. > > > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise > > for at [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > 10% of all dentists have been sued and they are still using > amalgam? That is unbelievable. Nope, as amalgam causes no harm. NEXT QUESTION~! Joel > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at > least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need > answer. > If you've been sued did you win or lose? > > I'll assume Joel's been sued since I seem to have touched a nerve :o) You wish, dumb sh*t, he has at least one progeny that *is* an attorney, not a wannabe Thought I had your sorry butt killfiled but it is now - go study for your next retake. carabelli > > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at > > least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You wish, dumb sh*t, he has at least one progeny that *is* an attorney, not > a wannabe REPLY Actually two, but fortunately, neither one is on the firing line with these kinds of cases! Joel > Thought I had your sorry butt killfiled but it is now - go study for your > next retake. > > carabelli > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at > least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need > answer. > If you've been sued did you win or lose? > > I'll assume Joel's been sued since I seem to have touched a nerve :o) One last comment, I have more than one colleague in general practice that will not, under any circumstances, accept an attorney, or any of their family as a new patient. One wonders why they have come to embrace such a practice philosophy. Chew on it carabelli > > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at > > least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > family as a new patient. One wonders why they have come to embrace such a > practice philosophy. You can really be sued for that! Violation of Civil Rights is even a better case haha >> > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for > at [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > better > case haha Unless you're a minority, gay, or have AIDS...good luck with that one. Of course, being an attorney is probably considered a handicap under the Americans with Disabilities Act. You guys are deficient in ethics...and I'm sure some industrious attorney could spin that into a handicap. >>> > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise >>> > for [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> better >> case haha As I said, you're blocked on my newsreader. However, NYOB reposted your drivel. That is utter bullshit, I do not have to accept any patient walking in the door wanting elective health services. A piece of advise shyster, slow down to a walk when you see the brake lights on the ambulance you're chasing, I would hate to see you lose any teeth running into the bumper. carabelli > As I said, you're blocked on my newsreader. However, NYOB reposted your > drivel. That is utter bullshit, I do not have to accept any patient [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > carabelli REPLY We had a set-up case around here. A guy calls the dentist, makes an appointment, calls back 15 minutes later and says, "Oh yeah, forgot to mention I have AIDS." Well the dentist did the wrong thing under ADA (disabilities). Big suit, the dentist went out of practice. End of story. Joel > > As I said, you're blocked on my newsreader. However, NYOB reposted your > > drivel. That is utter bullshit, I do not have to accept any patient [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Big suit, the dentist went out of practice. End of story. That will teach him to discriminate! > Joel | >> > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for | > at [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] | Americans with Disabilities Act. You guys are deficient in ethics...and I'm | sure some industrious attorney could spin that into a handicap. Occupational disease?  SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply "> | >> > > | >> One last comment, I have more than one colleague in general practice that > | >> will not, under any circumstances, accept an attorney, or any of their > | >> family as a new patient. One wonders why they have come to embrace such > | >> a > | >> practice philosophy. How would he know he's an attorney unless he knew him? I never put down anything more than my name, address, phone and age. > | > You can really be sued for that! Violation of Civil Rights is even a > | > better > | > case haha > | > | Unless you're a minority, gay, or have AIDS...good luck with that one What about sex? Aren't females a protected species? lol . Of > | course, being an attorney is probably considered a handicap under the > | Americans with Disabilities Act. You guys are deficient in ethics...and I'm > | sure some industrious attorney could spin that into a handicap. > > Occupational disease? > "> | >> > > > | >> One last comment, I have more than one colleague in general practice [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > How would he know he's an attorney unless he knew him? I never put down > anything more than my name, address, phone and age. REPLY We place shark repellent on the dental chair and we observe if the patient jumps out. Joel > > | > You can really be sued for that! Violation of Civil Rights is even a > > | > better [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Roy > > rem NADA to reply > > "> | >> > > > > | >> One last comment, I have more than one colleague in general [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joel We hit the alarm system siren and wait to see if they run out. Seriously, if a new patient will not completely fill out the health history and personal/financial info they simply aren't seen at my office. carabelli > We hit the alarm system siren and wait to see if they run out. REPLY We check the parking lot for civilian cars with the blue emergency light on top. Joel > Seriously, if a new patient will not completely fill out the health history > and personal/financial info they simply aren't seen at my office. > > carabelli > We hit the alarm system siren and wait to see if they run out. > > Seriously, if a new patient will not completely fill out the health history > and personal/financial info they simply aren't seen at my office. > > carabelli Bravo! That'll keep the bullshitters out very nicely. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH >> How would he know he's an attorney unless he knew him? I never put down >> anything more than my name, address, phone and age. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Joel Better yet... We have a shark's jaw mounted on the wall in the reception area. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>How would he know he's an attorney unless he knew him? I never put down >>>anything more than my name, address, phone and age. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > We have a shark's jaw mounted on the wall in the reception area. I have a varnished pirhana in my treatment room. Steve > -- > > W_B > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com SignatureCut the nonsense to reply >> Better yet... >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Steve We have live ones in a tank. Feeding time is very popular. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>Better yet... >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > W_B Do they insist on live food? Steve > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com SignatureCut the nonsense to reply | >>>Better yet... | >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] | | Steve I heard W_B feeds them bottom feeders, Pisces: legalus arrogantus. Common name: ambulance chasers frequently known as politicians. SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply >| > On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:06:53 GMT, Steven Bornfeld ><dentaltwinnonsense@earthlink.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >I heard W_B feeds them bottom feeders, Pisces: legalus arrogantus. Common name: >ambulance chasers frequently known as politicians. How did you know ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com | >| > On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:06:53 GMT, Steven Bornfeld | ><dentaltwinnonsense@earthlink.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] | | How did you know ? Watergate mean anything to you? SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply >| >I heard W_B feeds them bottom feeders, Pisces: legalus arrogantus. Common >name: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Watergate mean anything to you? Used to be a nice hotel. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>>Better yet... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Steve We really don't have pirhana, I was kidding ! -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >> Better yet... > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > >Steve REPLY How did you get him to hold still while you applied the varnish? Joel > We have live ones in a tank. > Feeding time is very popular. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > > > I have a varnished pirhana in my treatment room. > > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Joel Not hard... Just threaten to Ammmmalgam him into Hell's half acre. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH > > Better yet... > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steve I have a picture of a rabbit playing the piano. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH >>>Better yet... >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I have a picture of a rabbit playing the piano. > SP Ya got me there. The fish only reads treble clef. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 > >> I have a varnished pirhana in my treatment room. > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Steve _You_ got me there: the rabbit only played by her floppy ears... SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH > > | >> One last comment, I have more than one colleague in general practice > that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > What about sex? Aren't females a protected species? lol How many Shysters get sued? Or isn't it better just to break their legs or shoot them? SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH >> You can really be sued for that! Violation of Civil Rights is even a >> better [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Americans with Disabilities Act. You guys are deficient in ethics...and I'm >sure some industrious attorney could spin that into a handicap. Good one ! -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >> You can really be sued for that! Violation of Civil Rights is even a > >> better [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Good one ! What have patient/attorneys have done to get dentists so upset that other patients haven't done. It does seem unfair that one group has greater free access to the legal system. Probably a law should be passed that attorneys must file all lawsuits using another attorney. On the other hand why should cost be a factor for anyone in filing a lawsuit to begin with? > On the other hand > why should cost be a factor for anyone in filing a lawsuit to begin > with? Because it sure costs something to defend yourself. That is the problem with the present system. There are too many "no cost unless we win" attorney's that lure in people with cases or marginal merit. If someone figures there is no risk to them to file a case, they give it a shot. There is no possible down side for them. That is like a gun fight where only one side gets bullets. T > > On the other hand > > why should cost be a factor for anyone in filing a lawsuit to begin [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > T I'm thinking more in terms of getting access to information. If a company uses a defective product or chronically engages in faulty practices why should you have to pay thousands simply to find out that information. It might make sense that if you go ahead with a lawsuit that takes up court time you have to pay, but why should anyone have to pay big $$$ just to get information or statements of fact that the person or company being sued is already aware of. > I'm thinking more in terms of getting access to information. If a > company uses a defective product or chronically engages in faulty [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > pay big $$$ just to get information or statements of fact that the > person or company being sued is already aware of. That makes sense...I was thinking of it differently than what you intended. I think the difficulty in getting information is a product of defensive behavior. People/Companies are afraid of lawsuits, so they hide, even when there isn't a reason to hide. T > Because it sure costs something to defend yourself. That is the problem with > the present system. There are too many "no cost unless we win" attorney's > that lure in people with cases or marginal merit. If someone figures there > is no risk to them to file a case, they give it a shot. There is no possible > down side for them. That is like a gun fight where only one side gets > bullets. Wait a minute... The accused can always counter sue. If the plaintif knows that from the start, the playing field would be evened out a bit. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH >>>>You can really be sued for that! Violation of Civil Rights is even >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > why should cost be a factor for anyone in filing a lawsuit to begin > with? Some of the regs here may differ state to state. Brooklyn's current borough president Marty Markowitz was reliably said to have been refused a rental in the building I lived in at the time (late 1970s) because he was a lawyer (I believe he had recently been elected state senator). I think discrimination by occupation may be prohibited--notwithstanding that conducting a business in a given location can be prohibited. Steve SignatureCut the nonsense to reply >> >> You can really be sued for that! Violation of Civil Rights is even > a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > why should cost be a factor for anyone in filing a lawsuit to begin > with? It's not. Attorneys ought to get a mark against them for each unsuccessful suit. Three losses and they lose their license to practice. > You can really be sued for that! Violation of Civil Rights is even a better > case haha I thought lawyers didn't have any civil rights ....... >> You can really be sued for that! Violation of Civil Rights is even a > better >> case haha > > I thought lawyers didn't have any civil rights ....... They have no civility. >>I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at >>least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > carabelli That's unfortunate. They're not all shysters. Steve SignatureCut the nonsense to reply >>>I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for >>>at [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Steve Not at all, especially, when you need one . I had what I considered an honor to write a recommendation to the Kansas Governor to recommend my oldest friend to the court. Our views are exactly 180 degrees apart. But, that's OK - he had a pretty big deal dropped in his lap right of the get go with the entire metro area watching and handled it quite equitably. carabelli > Not at all, especially, when you need one . I had what I considered an > honor to write a recommendation to the Kansas Governor to recommend my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > carabelli Did he get the gig? Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >> Not at all, especially, when you need one . I had what I considered an >> honor to write a recommendation to the Kansas Governor to recommend my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Steve Yeah, he did (despite my letter). I and a few college buddies that live in St. Louis went to Topeka (state capital) to watch him being sworn it. It was pretty cool. carabelli > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at > least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need > answer. > If you've been sued did you win or lose? Practicing 6 years. Never been sued. > > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at > > least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need > > answer. > > If you've been sued did you win or lose? > > Practicing 6 years. Never been sued. Yet :o) >> > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for > at [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > Yet :o) Yes, yet. So I'm batting 1000. Ever lose a case? I bet my record is better than yours. > Yes, yet. So I'm batting 1000. > > Ever lose a case? I bet my record is better than yours. .... and _I_ bet that this a.shole is not worth the time or energy. Sweep this dirt out the door and get on with your (real) life. Let him go back to school..... ;-) SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH Going on 26 without legal problems to date. Fawks > Practicing 6 years. Never been sued. > Going on 26 without legal problems to date. > > Fawks I thought you were married carabelli OUCH! Why did you have to remind me? Actually, she's been a lot nicer since the kids have all left for college (and I said 'cool it or I'm outta here'). The Lakers sure suck without Shaq. <VBG> Fawks | I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at | least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need answer. | If you've been sued did you win or lose? | | I'll assume Joel's been sued since I seem to have touched a nerve :o) Licensed for 15 years. Never had an official complaint. Never been sued. 4 cases considered a failure due to patients unrealistic expectations. 1 additional case I considered a failure due to an unidentified physical abnormality. Radiology could not get a good shot of the TMJ to confirm my suspicions. The patient was satisfied with what I had done and refused further diagnostics. History indicated an untreated fracture of the mandible. The patient had an immediate side shift of over 5mm with multiple CR's. It seemed that 1 condyle was improperly positioned or resorbed. SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply Roy wrote: "The patient had an immediate side shift of over 5mm with multiple CR's. It seemed that 1 condyle was improperly positioned or resorbed." -- Roy That reminds me of a local case that was in the legal system for several years. The lady had a missing condyle. There was NO way to get a consistent, reproducible CR. - dentaldoc | Roy wrote: | [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] | | - dentaldoc How did they treat the case? What were the clinical and legal outcomes? I was considering putting a second row of posteriors on one side of the upper, allowing for the shift while keeping the lowers where they belonged. I wanted a confirmed diagnosis before remaking the case. The patient was satisfied with what I had done. Roy Bill had written: | That reminds me of a local case that was in the legal system for | several years. The lady had a missing condyle. There was NO way to get | a consistent, reproducible CR. | | - dentaldoc Roy wrote: >How did they treat the case? What were the clinical and legal outcomes? The case was treated with implants because the patient refused to consider any sort of removable prosthetics whatsoever (THAT should have been something of a warning sign). She went from doctor to doctor until she found a few willing to follow her own treatment plan (you can see where this is going). Even then, she shifted from one dentist to another. Remarkably, the occlusion was workable, as it was built into a position that was comfortable for her once she settled into it. However, she kept requesting alterations for esthetics and thus wore out repeated sets of temporaries, which constantly changed the occlusion. All these revisions kept the dentists in cash flow, but the patient could never be satisfied with the esthetics of ANY treatment. My take on the situation was that she thought the treatment would make her look 20 years old again -- as you see in those smiling dental ads -- but after each revision, she still looked like a 70-year-old woman (with white teeth). Ironically, the legal case hinged on the fact that one of the surgeons had placed a mandibular implant that partially impinged upon the inferior alveolar nerve bundle. So she was offered a full settlement for those implants, and the restorations built thereon, but not on other treatment unrelated to those actual problems. She was upset with the partial victory, so she rejected it. She should have taken it when it was offered. Both dentists who would have paid for the problems were now off the hook. The last I heard, she was back to replacing implant restorations again and again . . . >I was considering putting a second row of posteriors on one side of the upper, >allowing for the shift while keeping the lowers where they belonged. I wanted a >confirmed diagnosis before remaking the case. The patient was satisfied with >what I had done. >Roy A satisfied patient is the key to the case!! - dentaldoc | Bill had written: | [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] | The last I heard, she was back to replacing implant restorations again | and again . . . Thanks Bill | >I was considering putting a second row of posteriors on one side of | the upper, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | | - dentaldoc Not necessarily so. The patient's history included a pysch Dx. . I found it is troubling knowing something better could be done if the pt. would only follow up with the diagnostics. It is as frustrating a situation as the situation you described. One patient with untreated psyche issues is getting the best dental treatment and doesn't recognize it. The other patient is getting sub optimal dental treatment because of psych issues and doesn't recognize it. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Both put one at risk to have to deal with the "boards". "Damned if you do and damned if you don't."....Roy, can I buy you a cup of coffee next time I'm fishing up North? I'll bet we'd have a lot to talk about. How do you handle it when you think a patient needs a psych referral? Is it ethical to contact their PCP without their consent? I've attempted to do it with their knowledge....talk about a cold shower on a relationship. When I was starting out, I had the naive idea that good dentistry (not that I had a complete handle on it!) alone would rule the day; patients would appreciate my efforts, love me and go home. Har de har. When my dad died I suddenly gained ownership of a largely- referral-based, prostho practice that included a lot of end stage, difficult patients (does this sound familiar, Roy?). This was the only period in my career when I didn't enjoy myself professionally. I had less stress getting shot at in 'Nam. Today I love what I do, A-Z (well, some of the AEGD residents give me agita) the difference being that I can smell trouble coming a long ways off. Psychodontics, the sub-specialty. 'Course, now that this is in print I'll probably get a letter from an attorney today. Where's my garlic....? > "Damned if you do and damned if you don't."....Roy, can I buy you a cup of > coffee next time I'm fishing up North? I'll bet we'd have a lot to talk > about. How do you handle it when you think a patient needs a psych > referral? You think? What would make you think they need a psychiatrist? Anxiety is normal, especially anxiety about deteriorating health. If you know for sure that they are not psychotic just give them some xanax. Is it ethical to contact their PCP without their consent? I've > attempted to do it with their knowledge....talk about a cold shower on a > relationship. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > referral-based, prostho practice that included a lot of end stage, > difficult patients (does this sound familiar, Roy?). difficult patient: any patient you don't have the skill to treat This was the only > period in my career when I didn't enjoy myself professionally. I had less > stress getting shot at in 'Nam. Yes, and those were your own men doing the shooting haha > Today I love what I do, A-Z (well, some of the AEGD residents give me agita) > the difference being that I can smell trouble coming a long ways off. > Psychodontics, the sub-specialty. Yes, wouldn't it be nice if we never had any trouble and people just accepted sub standard treatment and paid up promptly. > 'Course, now that this is in print I'll probably get a letter from an > attorney today. Where's my garlic....? what's your address? > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at > least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need answer. > If you've been sued did you win or lose? > > I'll assume Joel's been sued since I seem to have touched a nerve :o) No, I practiced for close to 40 years without a single suit. But I have a little trick for that. Most suits are disgruntled patients. I make sure that patients do not get to that stage ....... Its easier to catch up with my own work than to hire lawyers and stuff. Besides, remaking a bridge is tax-deductible! Joel I'm not a dentist but I have to comment here. As a consumer I think ambulance chasers like you should lose the right to represent anyone. You have no morals if this is what you do. Do you also walk up to a victim of a shooting or a car accident and hand out your cards?! I had one do that in a car accident years ago and I turned his butt in for it. You are a low life to say the least. People don't give this person who doesn't even have the balls to ID himself the joys of responding. His ID he uses says it all. UM MOM Susan > I'd really be interested to know as long as you've been in practise for at > least 5 years, so no beardless boys just out of dental college need > answer. > If you've been sued did you win or lose? > > I'll assume Joel's been sued since I seem to have touched a nerve :o) > I'm not a dentist but I have to comment here. As a consumer I think > ambulance chasers like you should lose the right to represent anyone. You > have no morals if this is what you do. Do you also walk up to a victim of a > shooting or a car accident and hand out your cards?! No, that would be unethical. But I have attended funerals of people killed in accidents to hand out my card to the family lol I had one do that in a > car accident years ago and I turned his butt in for it. For what? Handing you a card? lol You are a low life A rich low life compared to you a poor low life lol > to say the least. People don't give this person who doesn't even have the > balls to ID himself the joys of responding. His ID he uses says it all. UM [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > I'll assume Joel's been sued since I seem to have touched a nerve :o) >I'm not a dentist but I have to comment here. As a consumer I think >ambulance chasers like you should lose the right to represent anyone. You [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >balls to ID himself the joys of responding. His ID he uses says it all. UM >MOM Susan You've got 'shyster' all wrong, he just likes to stir the SMD pot occaisionally and knows how to punch the right buttons. Sometimes he is quite refreshing and entertaining. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>I'm not a dentist but I have to comment here. As a consumer I think >>ambulance chasers like you should lose the right to represent anyone. You [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > occaisionally > and knows how to punch the right buttons. Yep, he and I may have more in common than I want to admit. That will PO him carabelli > You've got 'shyster' all wrong, he just likes to stir the SMD pot > occaisionally and knows how to punch the right buttons. > > Sometimes he is quite refreshing and entertaining. > -- He is a total j.rkoff. We have ours too, but this is above and beyond the call. I am sure he is not even a real shyster. JMO....... It never ceases to amaze me how they can wrap a whole person around one a.shole. SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH |
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