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Stove's new Blog w/ 2 cases

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StovePipe - 12 Apr 2005 05:16 GMT
Howdy all. I have made a small blog on the same site as Flap
(www.blogger.com)... Mine is nothing but a showcase for a few of my
patients. As I have said to a few of you, this is a good way to develop
a bit more serious case study capability here...

http://stovessmdstuff.blogspot.com/

I have put two cases on my little site: one for veneers and one for
Endo. For those interested please take a look and tell me if you have
any opinions.

BTW, opening a blog on that site is easy: after all, the Pipe did it....

It seems that the way it is now (I pulled alot of bullshot out of the
Template HTML) you cannot resopond directly to the blog unless you are
signed in with a blog of your own. So, I'd appreciate it if you have any
thoughts that you post them here. I'm gonna ask Flap how to get around
this.... maybe I took too much stuff out.

Cheers
SP

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Joel M. Eichen - 12 Apr 2005 11:35 GMT
Excellent. Very excellent.

As an aside, how many people here would do this case with an edge to edge
bite and how many would leave the case in a cross-bite, assuming the patient
would not get the cross-bite corrected through orthodontics, the recommended
way?

Joel

> Howdy all. I have made a small blog on the same site as Flap
> (www.blogger.com)... Mine is nothing but a showcase for a few of my
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StovePipe - 12 Apr 2005 12:49 GMT
> Excellent. Very excellent.

Thanks, JME

> As an aside, how many people here would do this case with an edge to edge
> bite and how many would leave the case in a cross-bite, assuming the patient
> would not get the cross-bite corrected through orthodontics, the recommended
> way?

That's really what I want to know... He doesn't want Ortho/Surgery

Cheers
SP
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Dr Steve - 12 Apr 2005 14:03 GMT
Leave it as a Class III

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Dr Steve - 12 Apr 2005 14:03 GMT
Hi Stoveman,

1)  Regarding the proposed veneer case. I would strongly suggest getting a
set of decent study models.  Hold them in your hands and move the models (in
CO) as you line up all the wear facets you can find both anteriorlly and
posteriorly.  You need to find al the lateral bracing positions this person
rests (more likely clenches) at.  Then, you can see if there is enough space
to create the changes you wish to make on the maxillary incisors.  You will
need to restore to a class III occlusion, but you knew that.  The central
incisors show some attrition.  I would want to see how he does that.  If the
attrition was made by a dental handpiece to smooth out the incisal edges,
and he has zero bracing positions where he can hit these teeth, then you
should be able do whatever you want (within reason).  As you study the
models, remember that the mandible is not rigid, but does flex a bit as
patients clench.  What does not seem to touch with light pressure, may touch
with heavy force.

2)  The second molar RCT............ I see lots of those with only two
canals.  Often the mesial root has a ribbon shaped canal.  I did endodontics
on one like that yesterday.  I will usually take a long shank round bur on
the slow speed handpiece and explore laterally from the canals I find on a
tooth like this.  Then, study it with magnification.  If I cannot find
evidence of a third or fourth canal, I stop and restore the case.  In twenty
years, I have only seen 1-2 teeth like this that did not respond to RCT and
needed removal.  Even the ones where I only found one canal did well.  Just
make sure you cannot see any more canals radiographically or in the pulp
chamber.  I usually will remove ALL old filling material, and cut down the
occlusal surface 3-4 mm to do this inspection.

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Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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> Howdy all. I have made a small blog on the same site as Flap
> (www.blogger.com)... Mine is nothing but a showcase for a few of my
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> Cheers
> SP
Flap - 12 Apr 2005 21:32 GMT
Why veneers in this case, especially with the Class 3?

Kroll technique would be able to ameliorate the stains.

Flap

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StovePipe - 13 Apr 2005 03:44 GMT
> Why veneers in this case, especially with the Class 3?
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> http://flapsblog.blogspot.com

I'll hafta look that up. Thanks for the idea.
SP
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StovePipe - 13 Apr 2005 03:44 GMT
> Hi Stoveman,
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> posteriorly.  You need to find al the lateral bracing positions this person
> rests (more likely clenches) at.

I had planned to do this like you already described to find a Hoargar
interference free occluding arrangement. I already told the patient
that.

> 2)  The second molar RCT............ I see lots of those with only two
> canals.  Often the mesial root has a ribbon shaped canal.  I did endodontics
> on one like that yesterday.  I will usually take a long shank round bur on
> the slow speed handpiece and explore laterally from the canals I find on a
> tooth like this.  

This is what I will do. I have 2.5X loopes and a magnifying glass. It
looks 'bush' but it works.

Thanks... Have Good times in the Windy City...

SP

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