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Bill Beaini - 28 Mar 2005 21:29 GMT
hey'all
I got into the Ohio State university dental school...
any tips for a first year dental student?
cheers to u all
Bill
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 28 Mar 2005 21:54 GMT
> hey'all
> I got into the Ohio State university dental school...
> any tips for a first year dental student?
> cheers to u all
> Bill

    What can I say but good luck?  Oh, Kevin P. got a full-time job with
the post office during his first year of dental school.  I guess that
means he can go dental and postal at the same time.  He survived in the
job a couple of weeks.  Moral: don't try to hold down a full-time job
during dental school.
    Kevin wound up OK anyway.

Best,
Steve

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Bill Beaini - 28 Mar 2005 22:16 GMT
do you think holdin a part-time job would be a good idea or should I
just depend on the loans?
thanks
Bill

>> hey'all
>> I got into the Ohio State university dental school...
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Best,
> Steve
Dr Steve - 28 Mar 2005 22:26 GMT
I immersed myself in dental school to learn everything I possibly could.
Afterall, I was going to spend the rest of my life doing this.  I did not
have time for any outside jobs.  I worked term breaks and the one summer we
had off.  I had classmates who worked part-time, but there were VERY few of
those, and they were totally burnt out in short time.

I don't know how it is now, but we had 8 hours a day five days a week of
classes, 2-3 hours each day of lab work (after school), plus 4-6 hours a day
of studying.  Midterms and final exams would easily last for 2-3 weeks of
takes 2-3 tests a day and the amount of time spent studying would go up
during those times.

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
......................

> do you think holdin a part-time job would be a good idea or should I just
> depend on the loans?
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>> Best,
>> Steve
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 28 Mar 2005 22:29 GMT
> do you think holdin a part-time job would be a good idea or should I
> just depend on the loans?
> thanks
> Bill

    Different strokes for different folks.  I know that I wouldn't have
been able to handle a job with any kind of real hours, but then I never
was too good at time management.
    Then again, when I was in school tuition was a lot less--doubtless even
less than what you'll pay at a state school.
    I don't know that any part-time job you'll get will be lucrative enough
to compensate you for the time you could otherwise use in your studies.
 Of course everyone's situation is different, but there weren't too
many people who were able to pull it off on a regular basis.
    I did have a friend who was a musician who would do the occasional club
date, and others who were given room and board at the VA hospital in
exchange for going on hospital blood rounds every morning and evening.
But overall, we had enough to handle just keeping up with school work.

Steve
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Bill Beaini - 28 Mar 2005 22:45 GMT
thanks Dr. Steve and Mark...this does really help..
I appreciate it again
Bill

>> do you think holdin a part-time job would be a good idea or should I
>> just depend on the loans?
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Steve
Jorge Bonilla - 28 Mar 2005 23:29 GMT
You young folks have it easy. We had to walk 10 miles uphill in
freezing rain going to school and 15 miles uphill against tropical
storm winds coming back...
Not really. Hope everything works out well for you. The first two years
are the most difficult, but don't give up.
Jorge Bonilla, DMD
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Mar 2005 00:18 GMT
>You young folks have it easy. We had to walk 10 miles uphill in
>freezing rain going to school and 15 miles uphill against tropical
>storm winds coming back...

THAT's nothing!

We walked twenty miles ....... uphill ..... EACH WAY!

Joel

>Not really. Hope everything works out well for you. The first two years
>are the most difficult, but don't give up.
>Jorge Bonilla, DMD
Steven Fawks - 29 Mar 2005 00:04 GMT
I didn't work outside of dental school either.  It would have been
a great hardship, though some guys did it.  Most of them were
bartenders or waiters on Friday and Saturday nights.

JME,
Fawks

> thanks Dr. Steve and Mark...this does really help..
> I appreciate it again
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>>
>> Steve
NOYB - 28 Mar 2005 23:03 GMT
> do you think holdin a part-time job would be a good idea or should I just
> depend on the loans?

Loans!  Borrow more than you need and sock it away in a savings account.
You'll need it to live on when you graduate until you pass your boards.
Dr Steve - 28 Mar 2005 23:08 GMT
What is tuition now-a-days?  Private schools easily go over $40K a year, but
what does it cost at the State funded school?

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
....................................................

This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
......................

>
>> do you think holdin a part-time job would be a good idea or should I just
>> depend on the loans?
>
> Loans!  Borrow more than you need and sock it away in a savings account.
> You'll need it to live on when you graduate until you pass your boards.
NOYB - 28 Mar 2005 23:32 GMT
> What is tuition now-a-days?  Private schools easily go over $40K a year,
> but what does it cost at the State funded school?

Tuition at Univ. of Florida dental school is $17k/year for in-state
residents.
Bill Beaini - 28 Mar 2005 23:36 GMT
>>What is tuition now-a-days?  Private schools easily go over $40K a year,
>>but what does it cost at the State funded school?

it's $18K for Ohio residents..
> Tuition at Univ. of Florida dental school is $17k/year for in-state
> residents.
Dr Steve - 28 Mar 2005 23:44 GMT
My alma mater is about $40K.

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
....................................................

This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
......................

>
>>>What is tuition now-a-days?  Private schools easily go over $40K a year,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> Tuition at Univ. of Florida dental school is $17k/year for in-state
>> residents.
Dr Steve - 28 Mar 2005 23:43 GMT
That is dirt cheap!  I wonder what Salvatore will choose to do in 8-10
years.  If he chooses dentistry, I bet tuition will be higher yet.

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
....................................................

This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
......................

>
>> What is tuition now-a-days?  Private schools easily go over $40K a year,
>> but what does it cost at the State funded school?
>
> Tuition at Univ. of Florida dental school is $17k/year for in-state
> residents.
Vaughn - 29 Mar 2005 02:01 GMT
> That is dirt cheap!  I wonder what Salvatore will choose to do in 8-10 years.
> If he chooses dentistry, I bet tuition will be higher yet.

    In 8-10 years, Salvatore will likely be *teaching* in college.

Vaughn
Steven Fawks - 29 Mar 2005 00:07 GMT
From what I hear, UMKC is about the same cost as others.  It does have a
nice new clinic and is paperless.  After Angie goes through, maybe
she'll get me switched over.

<G>
Fawks

> What is tuition now-a-days?  Private schools easily go over $40K a year, but
> what does it cost at the State funded school?
W_B - 28 Mar 2005 23:22 GMT
>do you think holdin a part-time job would be a good idea or should I
>just depend on the loans?

Going to dental school is a full time job.

>thanks
>Bill
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>> Best,
>> Steve

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W_B
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W_B - 28 Mar 2005 23:18 GMT
>hey'all
>I got into the Ohio State university dental school...
>any tips for a first year dental student?

Study hard.

>cheers to u all
>Bill

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Joel M. Eichen - 29 Mar 2005 00:17 GMT
>hey'all
>I got into the Ohio State university dental school...
>any tips for a first year dental student?
>cheers to u all
>Bill

YEAH!

Congratulations ......

Advice? Sure.

Keep good company in dental school. A good attitude is the MOST
IMPORTANT quality.

Joel
W_B - 29 Mar 2005 00:51 GMT
>>hey'all
>>I got into the Ohio State university dental school...
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Joel

Good test taking skills and good eye-hand co-ordination are the
most important qualities.
--

W_B
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Joel M. Eichen - 29 Mar 2005 01:11 GMT
>Good test taking skills and good eye-hand co-ordination are the
>most important qualities.
>--
>
>W_B
>Take out the G'RBAGE

So you agree with Steve Mancuso that testes are important in dental
school?
W_B - 29 Mar 2005 16:35 GMT
>>Good test taking skills and good eye-hand co-ordination are the
>>most important qualities.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>So you agree with Steve Mancuso that testes are important in dental
>school?

ovaries are also acceptable.
--

W_B
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Vaughn - 29 Mar 2005 02:12 GMT
> Good test taking skills and good eye-hand co-ordination are the
> most important qualities.

    Good test taking skills are very important, if GPA is important to you.
Equally important is taking the time to thoroughly psyche out your professors
and listening carefully to what it is that they want from you.

    I always had great success with study partners.   A good "give and take"
session between study partners keeps you focused and will help you avoid missing
study topics.  A good study partner will probably also make a good lab partner.

Vaughn   (a guy who has never been to dental school but who did manage a 4.0
grad. GPA)
StovePipe - 29 Mar 2005 04:37 GMT
> Vaughn   (a guy who has never been to dental school but who did manage a 4.0
> grad. GPA)

In ENGINEERING?!?!?!? That's phenomenal!
SP
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Vaughn - 29 Mar 2005 12:19 GMT
>> Vaughn   (a guy who has never been to dental school but who did manage a 4.0
>> grad. GPA)
>
> In ENGINEERING?!?!?!? That's phenomenal!

    Yes, that would be phenomenal for me; which is why it is not so.  The only
"C" I ever got in college was in Calculus III and that convinced me to give up
Engineering.  My Bachelor's is in Business and my Master's is in Public
Administration.

Vaughn

> SP
StovePipe - 30 Mar 2005 01:48 GMT
> My Bachelor's is in Business and my Master's is in Public
> Administration.
>
> Vaughn

Still respectable.... Don't know too many dudes with a 4.0 in anything.
SP
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Dr Steve - 29 Mar 2005 13:27 GMT
> Equally important is taking the time to thoroughly psyche out your
> professors
> and listening carefully to what it is that they want from you.

I liked that part so much, I had to re-post it.
carabelli - 29 Mar 2005 03:35 GMT
>>>hey'all
>>>I got into the Ohio State university dental school...
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> most important qualities.
> --
Congrats from here too, keep your grades up until May,  Eye-hand
co-ordination requires shooting pool with your classmates in a greasy bar
with formica tabletops.  That's all you can afford for a while.  Don't even
think about FT work.  I made a quite a few bucks making retainers for my
uncles,  you might want to contact a few ortho's, learn how to make a Hawley
retainer - you have to meet their schedule but you can still pick your own
hours to a degree.

carabelli
Steven Fawks - 29 Mar 2005 15:14 GMT
It was the best of times.....it was the worst of times.....

I saw Don Hatfield at the KC meetings a couple of weeks ago and
he went on and on about still owing me a big favor for helping
him in C&B.  He had ground a hole through his bridge in lab and
thought he was going to have to start waxing and casting a new
one.  I patched the hole with solder, polished it up, and it
passed.

But, all he did was *talk* about it.....no food, no beer, nothing...

;-)
Fawks

> Congrats from here too, keep your grades up until May,  Eye-hand
> co-ordination requires shooting pool with your classmates in a greasy bar
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> carabelli
NOYB - 29 Mar 2005 15:26 GMT
> It was the best of times.....it was the worst of times.....
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> But, all he did was *talk* about it.....no food, no beer, nothing...

No beer?  I'd turn him into the dental school.  Maybe they'd strip his
degree from him.
StovePipe - 29 Mar 2005 04:37 GMT
> hey'all
> I got into the Ohio State university dental school...
> any tips for a first year dental student?
> cheers to u all
> Bill

IMO, don't take any part time jobs, unless it's in a research lab or
something in your faculty. This like of work can stimulate appreciation
and interest- provided it is not too involved. It can also lead to
completing some of your elective credits in an area you will have come
to be interested in.

Failing that, and unless you are a male model, or something and you can
make enough to obviate taking loans and bursaries, I'd say don't work.

The prescious few free hours would be better spent doing your Paul
Bunion (sp?) imitation (good ol' EXERCISE, to work off your
frustrations). BION, one of my summer jobs was bein' a garbage
collector... It kept us in shape and allowed us (all students) to become
animals in a socially tolerated way for a few hours each summer day. I
never look down on menial labor, as I know there is more to it that just
turning off your brain.

One last bit of advice: don't fall in with the cigarette smokers, and
when you finally start classes, don't waste your valuable time on Usenet
or the Web. As Inspector Clouseau said to Kato: 'This is NOT the time'

Congrats and Best of luck.
SP

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Vaughn - 29 Mar 2005 12:24 GMT
> One last bit of advice: don't fall in with the cigarette smokers,

 Yes!  Expensive and an icky habit, especially for a dentist.

> when you finally start classes, don't waste your valuable time on Usenet
> or the Web. As Inspector Clouseau said to Kato: 'This is NOT the time'

    A little porno is OK.

Vaughn

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