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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / April 2005Holocaust Dental Gold: The Fast Track to the Gas Chamber
Several sources indicate that prisoners of the Nazi death camps were graded according to the amount of gold dental work they had in their teeth. e.g. "An informant stationed in the dental station at Mauthausen concentration camp stated that incoming camp prisoners were separated based on the amount of dental gold, and some of those with more gold were sent to more intensive labor camps in order to expedite their death:" http://www.courttv.com/archive/legaldocs/misc/naziswiss.html The cursory "medical" examinations which were carried out on death camp prisoners to select batches of victims (see Spielberg's depiction of camp officers yanking open prisoners' mouths in order to look inside), are sometimes interpreted by the more romantic of holocaust commentators as "the exercise of the power of life or death by the oppressor over his victim". Is it possible that the real point of these examinations was often much more mundane than this? Is it possible that the primary importance of these examinations was in maximising the efficiency of the process of dental gold reclamation? And is it possible that some prisoners survived because they had looked after their teeth better than others? Keith P Walsh PS, I am aware that some people prefer to play down the dental gold aspect of the holocaust, to the point of ignoring or even attempting to refute eye-witness testimonies and documentary evidence. I call such people "holocaust deniers". The following source: http://isurvived.org/Lustig_Oliver-CCDictionary/CCD-09_L.html says: "It has been estimated that from Birkenau-Auschwitz alone 6.000 kilograms of dental gold were sent to Berlin." At today's prices six thousand kilograms of gold is worth around 80 million US dollars. The article Holocaust Dental Gold Underestimated? can be found at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm "When patients arrived at one of the six killing centers, they were unloaded via a covered wooden corridor ....... Their identities were checked and they were closely observed by a physician, who attempted to match the size and appearance of the patient with a sham cause of death that was shortly to follow ..... Those who possessed gold dental work were further marked with an X on their backs." http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HDF/is_3_36/ai_93974004/pg_7 >Several sources indicate that prisoners of the Nazi death camps were >graded according to the amount of gold dental work they had in their [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm "Q. How much gold from teeth was sent out of Treblinka each week? A. Each week two suitcases were sent off, each of them containing about eight to ten kilograms. Q. Where were they sent to? A. They were delivered again to this Matthias, who was the chief of our camp in fact, the chief of our barracks, of the building where we lived and he told us that they were dispatching them to Berlin. " http://www.ukar.org/eichma02.html At today's prices 16 to 20 kilograms of gold is worth around a quarter of a million US dollars. >"When patients arrived at one of the six killing centers, they were >unloaded via a covered wooden corridor ....... Their identities were [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >> >>http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm "Next, a three-doctor panel gave each new prisoner a medical and dental examination. Anyone who had gold in his mouth had his number added to a list." http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Wiesel/Reis1.html >"Q. How much gold from teeth was sent out of Treblinka each week? > [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] >>> >>>http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm The website of the USS Washington offers the following: "In two weeks, 50 kilograms of dental gold thus accumulated goes to the SS for its own dental needs. SS officers commence to build numbered Swiss bank accounts and open safety deposit boxes filled with gold, as a hedge against the day of reckoning." See: http://www.usswashington.com/dl20se42.htm#top At today's prices 50 kilograms of gold is worth more than half a million US dollars. Does anyone know if this amount of dental gold was accumulated in such a short space of time from a broad cross-section of holocaust victims? Or would it have been necessary to "fast track" those prisoners with conspicuously large amounts of gold dental work in their mouths in order to achieve such a rapid yield? Keith P Walsh >"Next, a three-doctor panel gave each new prisoner a medical and >dental examination. Anyone who had gold in his mouth had his number [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] >>>> >>>>http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm > The website of the USS Washington offers the following: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.usswashington.com/dl20se42.htm#top And there is absolutely no attribution to this statement at this site. > At today's prices 50 kilograms of gold is worth more than half a > million US dollars. [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > >>>> > >>>>http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm >> The website of the USS Washington offers the following: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >And there is absolutely no attribution to this statement at this site. The above quote is taken from an article which is presented at the given URL under the name of David H Lippman. Are you saying that Mr Lippman's information is inaccurate? >> At today's prices 50 kilograms of gold is worth more than half a >> million US dollars. [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >> >>>> >> >>>>http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm > >> The website of the USS Washington offers the following: > >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The above quote is taken from an article which is presented at the > given URL under the name of David H Lippman. And who is David H Lippman, what are his credentials? What is his relationship to a battleship that never got closer to Europe than San Francisco? Why is that "info" presented in the method it is and what is it's relevence to all of the other statements on that page? > Are you saying that Mr Lippman's information is inaccurate? I am saying that Mr Lippman has no attribution to the statement, so how would anyone confirm that his information is accurate? > >> At today's prices 50 kilograms of gold is worth more than half a > >> million US dollars. [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > >> >>>> > >> >>>>http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm Keith, when did you change medications? We're curious, what did you stop taking and what did you replace it with? carabelli >Keith, when did you change medications? We're curious, what did you stop >taking and what did you replace it with? > >carabelli I am trying to establish how it came about that the victims of the Nazi holocaust had so much gold in their teeth. Do you have anything intelligent to contribute? Keith P Walsh PS, The article Holocaust "Dental Gold Underestimated?" can be found at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm > >Keith, when did you change medications? We're curious, what did you stop > >taking and what did you replace it with? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I am trying to establish how it came about that the victims of the > Nazi holocaust had so much gold in their teeth. How much gold was in the teeth of other Europeans at this time? How much gold had been used for dentistry in the previous 60-80 years in Europeans. How many gold teeth did Himmler have? Borman? Hess? Eva Braun? Goebbels? Stalin? Truman? MacArthur? > Do you have anything intelligent to contribute? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm Robert Morien <PhD_failure@nousefulinfo.com> wrote: > > I am trying to establish how it came about that the victims of the > > Nazi holocaust had so much gold in their teeth. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Europeans. How many gold teeth did Himmler have? Borman? Hess? Eva > Braun? Goebbels? Stalin? Truman? MacArthur? Bugs Bunny? Whinnie the Pooh? SP  SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH >Bugs Bunny? Whinnie the Pooh? >SP Sponge Bob ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >> I am trying to establish how it came about that the victims of the >> Nazi holocaust had so much gold in their teeth. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Europeans. How many gold teeth did Himmler have? Borman? Hess? Eva >Braun? Goebbels? Stalin? Truman? MacArthur? Various sources indicate that the first use of metal amalgams made with mercury in restorative dentistry in Europe is dated around 1826. This use quickly became widespread and was exported to the USA in 1833. Prominent dental associations today acknowledge the widespread use of amalgams in dentistry for "more than 150 years". It is highly improbable therefore that anyone killed in the Nazi Holocaust of the twentieth century would not have had the option of having decayed teeth filled with amalgam. The following is from: http://www.holocaust-history.org/johannesburg-citizen/ "A post-war study by the Main Commission for the Investigation of German Crimes in Poland, which surveyed over 2,900 reports on the removal of false teeth, concluded that 16,325 teeth made of gold and alloys of precious metal had been removed from 2,904 Auschwitz prisoners between May and December 1942." That's an average of more than 5 gold(*) teeth per prisoner. Do you think that in this respect these prisoners would have been representative of the general population of Europe at that time? Or would you say that you don't know? Keith P Walsh PS, The article Holocaust "Dental Gold Underestimated?" can be found at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm (*) it appears that the precious metal platinum was also used, but to a lesser degree. > >> I am trying to establish how it came about that the victims of the > >> Nazi holocaust had so much gold in their teeth. R E P L Y Pretty simple. At that point in history, all bridgework and all crowns were fabricated from gold. Many restorations (fillings) were of gold as well. Joel > >How much gold was in the teeth of other Europeans at this time? How much > >gold had been used for dentistry in the previous 60-80 years in [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > (*) it appears that the precious metal platinum was also used, but to > a lesser degree. Robert Morien wrote: > > I am trying to establish how it came about that the victims of the > > Nazi holocaust had so much gold in their teeth. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Europeans. How many gold teeth did Himmler have? Borman? Hess? Eva > Braun? Goebbels? Stalin? Truman? MacArthur? Various sources indicate that the first use of metal amalgams made with mercury for restorative dentistry in Europe is dated around 1826. This use quickly became widespread and was exported to the USA in 1833. Prominent dental associations today acknowledge the widespread use of amalgams in dentistry for "more than 150 years". It is highly improbable therefore that anyone killed in the Nazi Holocaust of the twentieth century would not have had the option at any point during their lives of having decayed teeth filled with amalgam. The following is from: http://www.holocaust-history.org/johannesburg-citizen/ "A post-war study by the Main Commission for the Investigation of German Crimes in Poland, which surveyed over 2,900 reports on the removal of false teeth, concluded that 16,325 teeth made of gold and alloys of precious metal had been removed from 2,904 Auschwitz prisoners between May and December 1942." That's an average of more than 5 gold(*) teeth per prisoner. Do you think that in this respect these prisoners would have been representative of the general population of Europe at that time? Or would you say that you don't know? Keith P Walsh PS, The article Holocaust "Dental Gold Underestimated?" can be found at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/underestimated.htm (*) it appears that the precious metal platinum was also used, but to a lesser degree. > Robert Morien wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Various sources indicate that the first use of metal amalgams made with > mercury for restorative dentistry in Europe is dated around 1826. > This use quickly became widespread and was exported to the USA in 1833. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Holocaust of the twentieth century would not have had the option at any > point during their lives of having decayed teeth filled with amalgam. And yet people still have gold teeth (caps) placed in their mouths to this very day. Do they do it from cultural issues, style, health or do they just like the idea of a gold tooth? > The following is from: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > alloys of precious metal had been removed from 2,904 Auschwitz > prisoners between May and December 1942." Just want to be sure that amalgam is the preferred choice for dentures at that time. Yes? > That's an average of more than 5 gold(*) teeth per prisoner. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > (*) it appears that the precious metal platinum was also used, but to a > lesser degree. I'd say it was meaningless statistics. 2,904 prisoners does not represent the general population of Europe any more than it represents the general population of Jews. I'd also say that if your case is that the gold was used for dental practices of the Germans, then Gold teeth must have been common enough to require the gold. > I'd say it was meaningless statistics. 2,904 prisoners does not > represent the general population of Europe any more than it represents [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > practices of the Germans, then Gold teeth must have been common enough > to require the gold. R E P L Y Robert wrote, > Gold teeth must have been common enough > to require the gold. MY COMMENT ~ I'd have to agree with Robert this time! The gold teeth were made from gold. |
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