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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / March 2005Dan not usings his real name, still lying, still holdiing resentments
Dan is a L I A R!!! From: Jan (jdrew63...@aol.com) Subject: Re: A request for the Janster View: Complete Thread (5 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 2004-10-07 22:39:28 PST You really should get over your resentments, Dan. It was your decision to lie. Mine was to call your lie. You lied and said you had answered my questions. You didn't. below is the proof. From: carabelli (redsl...@worldnet.att.net) Subject: Re: CALLING CARABELLI,,,HELLOOOOO View: Complete Thread (70 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 2003-01-13 13:59:53 PST "Jan" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote......... >>Emission of mercury vapors in the oral cavity increased with the number of fillings. >(why is that?) > *I don't know - yet* > With ALL your EDUCATION, and you don't know YET?????? *I don't know if this was a valid study - you haven't posted enough information to evaluate it.* > >*However, that sounds like an interesting article. Where was it > >published, > >who wrote it, how was it reviewed? > How was mercury vapor measured? How was the amount of amalgam measured? > How was the accuracy of this device ensured? How were > >control measurements taken to ensure other factors did not influence > >results. What statistical analysis was employed - was it the appropriate > >method to analyze the results?* > With ALL your Education, go the Medline and find out!!!! > My conclusion is you do NOT want to know. > YOU are the DENTIST, it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW THESE THINGS!!!!!!!! *NO - I'm an orthodontist - you brought this to the table to discuss and I asked for details. Medline doesn't provide this information - it very seldom links to the complete article.* *Post the original article and I will give you my opinion of it.* *I will check the link you provided later when I have time.* carabelli From: carabelli (redsl...@worldnet.att.net) Subject: Re: CALLING CARABELLI,,,HELLOOOOO View: Complete Thread (70 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 2003-01-13 15:00:01 PST "Jan" <jdrew63...@aol.com> .......> > Umm. You have forgotten what YOU posted. Something about my not educating > myself. And how well educated you were. > Then I presented questions which ALL of you are afraid to answer. *I have been trying to answer one of you questions. The information is incomplete. I am not going to spend time wading through your cut and paste post. It looks like a collage a 2nd grader did with their eyes closed.* *Show me the entire original article. If you can't locate it post another complete article supporting your position and I will give you an honest assessment of it and why. If you post an abstract again for evaluation I will give you an honest label for yourself also.* *Don't shotgun me with a bunch of citations. I'm not going to drop everything and read everything you want because it suits you. If that is what you want - buy a dog and teach it to chase sticks.* carabelli From: carabelli (HUER...@worldnet.att.net) Subject: Re: CALLING CARABELLI,,,HELLOOOOO View: Complete Thread (70 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 2003-01-13 20:39:13 PST "Jan" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote......... > WHY ARE ABSTRACTS ON MEDLINE????????? > That does NOT take a study to answer, so just answer it!! *I will take a brief respite from denial and tell the truth. Medline was invented by Al Gore, it was a deceptive ploy conceived behind closed doors with the Republican Party to provide partial information to idiots. This may seem contradictory, however it is not. Evidentally, partial information overload for the uneducated or intelligence challenged seemed to be a benefit for both parties and reduced voting for fringe party candidates.* *I feel better already, free at last from denial.* carabelli From: carabelli (redsl...@worldnet.att.net) Subject: Re: CALLING CARABELLI,,,HELLOOOOO View: Complete Thread (70 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 2003-01-14 05:01:04 PST "Jan" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote............ > >> WHY ARE ABSTRACTS ON MEDLINE????????? *So that people don't waste their time and money going to school. In just minutes and a few clicks you can become more knowledgeable than people that have been programmed by 10+ years of higher education. An easier example is the next awarding of the Emmys. This time the awards will not be given by people that have actually watched the shows. A group of 10 people with a pile of TV Guides will make the decisions. I hope this answers your question.* carabelli From: carabelli (HUER...@worldnet.att.net) Subject: Re: CALLING CARABELLI,,,HELLOOOOO View: Complete Thread (70 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 2003-01-14 15:52:19 PST "Jan" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20030114183632.12074.00000725@mb-bg.aol.com... > >Subject: Re: CALLING CARABELLI,,,HELLOOOOO > >From: "Dr. Steve" drst...@home.msen.com > >Date: 1/14/2003 8:21 AM Central Standard Time > >Message-id: <v2874l18pnq...@corp.supernews?.com> > >For other lay-people (not our favorite troll who won't believe it > >anyway)........... > >Med-Line is a research tool from which to find articles. The abstract is > >supposed to give just enough information to quickly let you know if you > >want > >to read that particular article or not. Abstracts are often written by > >the > >article's author, and can, therefore, have a bias to them. If the > >article > >looks like it meets the needs of your information search, you then order > >(and pay for) the complete article. After reading the complete article, > >you > >have the opportunity to agree with the author, or disagree, depending on > >how > >well the author made his/her argument. Many articles are done with very > >poor research methods. The conclusions drawn by the authors cannot be > >inferred by the data they present. Yet, the conclusion will be listed in > >the abstract. Another point not listed in the abstract is where the > >funding > >came from to do the research. One must be suspicious of any articles > >written where the product being evaluated, is paying for the research. > >An abstract is just the author's very brief summary of what his/her > >article > >is about. Med-Line does not filter what abstracts to list. They list > >any > >and all abstracts they can find. Infotrieve and other on-line research > >sites all do the same thing. If you want to read the entire article, you > >get the privilege of driving to the local medical library, or paying > >about > >$30 for each re-print, due to the copyright fees. > Wonder Why Steve can't answer the questions, taken from Abstracts????? *It was written in plain English right above your question. If what he wrote won't sink in you'll have to be content wandering around in the twilight. I guess you're not capable of reading with comprehension.* *See ya later - back to blocking Jan* carabelli >Dan is a L I A R!!! Re: Dan not usings his real name, still lying, still holdiing resentments R E P L Y Dan! You are not usings your real name again? That's okay, Lady Lollipoop is not usings her real name either. Joel >>Dan is a L I A R!!! > >Re: Dan not usings his real name, still lying, still holdiing >resentments Sorry its MUSINGS ....... >R E P L Y > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Joel > Dan is a L I A R!!! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > carabelli Isn't there a function on google to let you change your id. Maybe you could randomly post rearranging the letter in your ID such as DrewJ WJand Jnderw to defeat carabelli's filter. >> carabelli > > Isn't there a function on google to let you change your id. >Maybe you could randomly post rearranging the letter in your >ID such as This is true. You can also change your EGO. Sometimes she posts as CZ >>> carabelli >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > This is true. You can also change your EGO. > Sometimes she posts as CZ Maliciously and repeatedly making a false statement about someones identity leaves you open to legal action. You are legally considered to have the mentality of an adult aren't you? >> Sometimes she posts as CZ > >Maliciously and repeatedly making a false statement about someones >identity leaves you open to legal action. You are legally considered to >have the mentality of an adult aren't you? Is it actionable to be associated with Jan Drew? What a strange legal system.  SignaturePeter Bowditch The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com <snip Steve's lie and harassing> >>>> carabelli >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> This is true. You can also change your EGO. > Isn't there a function on google to let you change your id. > Maybe you could randomly post rearranging the letter in your [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > to defeat carabelli's filter. This comment kind of proves you are an a.shole of the first order and your agenda is not to learn or discuss, but to irritate. T > > Isn't there a function on google to let you change your id. > > Maybe you could randomly post rearranging the letter in your [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > T Gee, I don't really have anything to learn. I already figured out amalgam can be toxic. > Gee, I don't really have anything to learn. I already > figured out amalgam can be toxic. So now your only mission is to bother people. I bet your family is proud. The only reason you are not on the dick head list with your alter-ego Jan is that once in the while you seemed to say things that made sense. I see that was probably just an aberration...as they say, even an unwound watch is right twice a day. Good luck to you in your noble pursuit of being a prick. T > > Gee, I don't really have anything to learn. I already > > figured out amalgam can be toxic. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > was probably just an aberration...as they say, even an unwound watch is > right twice a day. Good luck to you in your noble pursuit of being a prick. It's obvious the dentists on this list don't want to discuss science and just use it for social hour and to make fun of people hurt by their own profession in the most obscene ways. You should be thanking the people you poisoned for educating you. Well, your welcome! > This comment kind of proves you are an a.shole of the first > order ?? Because you think that idea will work? I thought the filter may look at the email address or does it go by ID. I post directly to google and do not filter. Sincerely, ZClinton >> Isn't there a function on google to let you change your id. >> Maybe you could randomly post rearranging the letter in your [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > T OMG!!!!!!! And Tony replies to Joel. >> This comment kind of proves you are an a.shole of the first order and your >> agenda is not to learn or discuss, but to irritate. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >And Tony replies to Joel. He was talking to you Jan and I think it has to do with coffee enemas ....... >> Dan is a L I A R!!! >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > to defeat carabelli's filter. I'm not posting through google. I am on high speed, although I do still have aol and may on occassion post through google, but I have heard it all. Dan and his lies are between him and God, as well as his holding resentments. Caused from HIS lying. LL >I'm not posting through google. I am on high speed, I doubt it ........ Jan, you are NEVER on high speed! Wouldn't that be like stalking? If you don't want to read any of my posts, you have every right to block me. I do not have a right to force my writings upon you. Fawks > Isn't there a function on google to let you change your id. > Maybe you could randomly post rearranging the letter in your [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > to defeat carabelli's filter. > Wouldn't that be like stalking? If you don't want to read any > of my posts, you have every right to block me. I do not have > a right to force my writings upon you. > > Fawks I believe technically stalking would be considered when the individual cannot escape the statements of actions of the stalker. Associating a message with a certain service or product is not considered stalking. Consider that many advertisers make use of advertising methods that could be considered an infringement of personal rights. For example, notice how, when you eat your dinner during TV commercials, suddenly the advertising volume goes way up so you cannot ignore it. Of course at about that same time you get a call from a telemarketer. Are you going to file a restraining order against the TV? As far as techical legalities go, many dentists come on this board, representing themselves as Dentists and proceed to make false statements about Hg and amalgam. If you want to nitpick, I guess that could be characterised as professional fraud or racketering. (I'm not sure what racketerring is but it sounds good and I'm sure the ADA is guilty of it.) These statements are false: 1. That no amalgam ever loses more thant 5% of its Hg. 1. That all amalgams behave the same lose the same Hg. 2. That fish is the largest source of elemental Hg. 3. That amalgam cannot be the larges source methyl Hg. 4. That no adverse reaction reports for amalgam Hg have been filed. 5. That no peer reviewed articles have been published linking amalgam to elevated Hg levels and poisoning symptoms. 6. That no studies have been done linking amalgam to negative health effects or that studies have been done proving amalgam is not responsible for causing or contributing to any major class of disease or that studies haven't been done showing associations between amalgam and certain diseases. You've just gotten so used to making these misstatements while representing yourself as a professional for years you don't even know the difference between fraud and truth anymore. If you want to nitpick, > I guess that could be characterised as professional fraud or > racketering. > > (I'm not sure what racketerring is but it sounds good and > I'm sure the ADA is guilty of it.) Racketeering Law and Legal Definition -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Racketeering is the federal crime of conspiring to organize to commit crimes, especially on an ongoing basis as part of an organized crime operation. The Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law allowing the federal government to place in trusteeship organizations which are convicted of being dominated by racketeers or organized crime. A person injured as a result of a RICO violation can recover treble damages and reasonable attorneys' fees. In order to prove a RICO violation, the person must be able to show that he or she was injured by a person associated with an "enterprise" that has been engaging in a "pattern of racketeering," "I wonder how big an enterprise has to be?" which consists of at least two "predicate acts" during a ten-year period. The list of "predicate acts" includes securities fraud, mail fraud and wire fraud "what about false representation/internet fraud" but does not include commodity fraud. In some circumstances, however, conduct involving futures transactions may constitute mail fraud or wire fraud. The legal requirements for proving a RICO violation are complex and vary from circuit to circuit //////// Well you can see the definition yourself and if what organized dentistry has been doing ( including threatening dentists who talk about health dangers of amalgam with liscence removal) fits the definition of RICO. > If you want to nitpick, >> I guess that could be characterised as professional fraud or [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > who talk about health dangers of amalgam with liscence removal) > fits the definition of RICO. http://www.healingwithnutrition.com/education/whysupplement/racketeer.html http://www.baar.com/racket.htm >>> I guess that could be characterised as professional fraud or >>> racketering. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> Racketeering Law and Legal Definition So you are saying NICO is RICO? |
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