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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / March 2005IMPLANTS:UPPER ARCH OVERDENTURES VS NON-REMOVABLE BRIDGE ??
I have to have all upper teeth removed, and I am considering overdentures ( removable with a couple of implants) or non-removable bridge supported by 6 - 8 implants. Do any of you have experience with either type? I have no experience with dentures. Are the non-removable like real teeth? There is a big difference in cost. Is it worth it? Any thoughts would be appreciated. >I have to have all upper teeth removed, and I am considering overdentures ( > removable with a couple of implants) or non-removable bridge supported by [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > There is a big difference in cost. Is it worth it? > Any thoughts would be appreciated. If I could afford it, I'd get the non-removable implant-supported crown and bridge. If I couldn't afford it, I'd get the implants with milled telescopic copings and a spark erosion denture. The dentures that I've seen made this way are absolutely rock-solid in the mouth 10-years post-insertion. Excuse my ignorance, but what are telescopic copings and spark erosion dentures? Is this different from an overdenture or a regular denture? Thanks > Excuse my ignorance, but what are telescopic copings and spark erosion > dentures? Is this different from an overdenture or a regular denture? > Thanks It's a type of overdenture. The lab makes milled copings (aka--Konus crowns) that go on the implants. Spark erosion is a process that makes a very precise fitting coping that sits on top of the Konus crowns. The spark erosion formed coping is part of the denture, and when you put the denture over the milled crowns, the fit is so precise from parallelism, that there's no movement of the denture. and also here to learn more about implanted dentures >>>>> http://www.perio.org/consumer/proto2/healthygums8.htm?g > > Excuse my ignorance, but what are telescopic copings and spark erosion > > dentures? Is this different from an overdenture or a regular denture? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > crowns) that go on the implants. Spark erosion is a process that makes a > very precise fitting coping that sits on top of the Konus crowns. I've met spark erosion technology in the computer industry (used to make moulds and texture plastic panels). I'm curious how the 3D data points are generated for a denture? Is there some kind of in-the-mouth 3D scanner that's used for this? >> > Excuse my ignorance, but what are telescopic copings and spark erosion >> > dentures? Is this different from an overdenture or a regular denture? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Is there some kind of in-the-mouth 3D scanner > that's used for this? I don't know the laboratory specifics, but I'm sure you could contact Dental Arts Lab in Peoria, Illinois if you want to know more. | > > Excuse my ignorance, but what are telescopic copings and spark erosion | > > dentures? Is this different from an overdenture or a regular denture? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | generated for a denture? Is there some kind of in-the-mouth 3D scanner | that's used for this? The ones I have seen are set up manually. I am also investigating implanted dentures... It mentions milled crowns down the bottom here (photos are included >> www.oral-implant.com/implants-examples.htm > www.oral-implant.com/implants-examples.htm Thanks for that link! SP  SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH I missed the original post. If cost is a factor one might get the implants need for a fixed bridge placed first. Use a few of those for an implant supported denture. Then at a later date use the rest of the implants for a fixed appliance. SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply | >I have to have all upper teeth removed, and I am considering overdentures ( | > removable with a couple of implants) or non-removable bridge supported by [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] | made this way are absolutely rock-solid in the mouth 10-years | post-insertion. I'm not sure how economical that would be in the long run. The only saving really would just be the permanent bridge part. Plus having paid for an overdenture to use in the interim. Having no experience with dentures of any kind, I'm trying to determine which way to go. Does anyone have either an overdenture or a whole set of implants in an arch? Would appreciate any input about the experience, or the experience of someone you know. Don't want to go to an overdenture to find I should have gone to a non- removable implant supported bridge. Or go to the bridge to find it's not what I thought. Thanks Hi, I asked about that but was discouraged by more than one implant specialist who saidthey often have to remove and replace implants later when a full bridge is made -- something to do with proper spacing. For that reason it is not economical and also time consuming and more expensive. That's very interesting. That is the first time that I've heard that. I've been to 2 dentists and neither mentioned that...some oversight( could it be the $$$?). Did they give you any idea why that would be true? I would hate to go thru all this and find out it doesn't holdup. Has anyone else been told this? If so, please let me know. Thanks!...lola A good diagnostic wax up with surgical stent or transitional denture should help them place the implants optimally in the first place allowing for future treatment. SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply | Hi, I asked about that but was discouraged by more than one implant | specialist who saidthey often have to remove and replace implants later | when a full bridge is made -- something to do with proper spacing. | For that reason it is not economical and also time consuming and more | expensive. |
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