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Aestetic fillings, which one is the best

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Aleksandar Predojevic - 17 Mar 2005 19:50 GMT
Last ten years we had the gratest restults using XRV Herculite filling for
the anterior and posterior teeth, and Esthet-x also.We decided to change
filling material ,so we need advice about nanocomposites and sugestions for
the great aesthetics,however in anterior and posterior region.
Also we need advice about root canal sealer,because we are using AH plus.
W_B - 17 Mar 2005 20:20 GMT
> Last ten years we had the gratest restults using XRV Herculite filling for
>the anterior and posterior teeth, and Esthet-x also.We decided to change
>filling material ,so we need advice about nanocomposites and sugestions for
>the great aesthetics,however in anterior and posterior region.
>Also we need advice about root canal sealer,because we are using AH plus.

Stop using AH26 or AH plus immediately.
You may as well be using sargenti.

Switch to Grossman's sealer.
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W_B
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Jorge Bonilla - 17 Mar 2005 20:46 GMT
I've had excellent results with EndoRez sealer (from Ultradent).
Dr. Bonilla
George Chatzipetros - 18 Mar 2005 00:04 GMT
I'm using Coltene/Roeko's Guttaflow with a one-cone technique. It takes
me 2 minutes to obturate a molar with an excellent fill at a cost of
2.5 quids. I've also heard very good things about EZfill but haven't
used it yet. I do believe that cold filling systems are the wave of the
future and will become better and better. If you only want a sealer,
you might try resilon in one of its various manifestations (realseal
etc).
WB, out of interest, why are you so negative about AH26? Comparing it
to N2 is quite severe in my opinion and not backed up by research.
Eugenol-based sealers seem to be a poor choice nowadays.

George
Bill - 18 Mar 2005 08:44 GMT
George wrote:

I'm using Coltene/Roeko's Guttaflow with a one-cone technique. It takes

me 2 minutes to obturate a molar with an excellent fill at a cost of
2.5 quids. I've also heard very good things about EZfill but haven't
used it yet. I do believe that cold filling systems are the wave of the

future and will become better and better. If you only want a sealer,
you might try resilon in one of its various manifestations (realseal
etc).
WB, out of interest, why are you so negative about AH26? Comparing it
to N2 is quite severe in my opinion and not backed up by research.
Eugenol-based sealers seem to be a poor choice nowadays.

George

Bill's message:
What's in AH26? No formaldehyde, I hope! According to this 1991
abstract, at least it does a good job of sealing:

A Comparative Study of the Apical Leakage of Four Root Canal Sealers
and Laterally Condensed Gutta-percha
Sriwalee Limkangwalmongkol, DDS, MDSc, Peter Burscher, PhD, Paul V.
Abbott, BDSc, MDS, FRACDS(Endo), Anthony B. Sandler, BDSc, HDDent, and
Brian M. Bishop, MDS, MSc, BDS, LDSRCS

Previous studies have shown that lateral condensation of gutta-percha
and sealer can provide an adequate apical seal. The purpose of this
study was to compare the level of apical dye penetration when different
sealers were used. One-hundred twenty-five teeth with single root
canals were biomechanically prepared using the step-back technique and
irrigation with EDTAC and 1% NaOCl solutions. The teeth were divided
into five groups of 25 teeth each. The control group root canals were
filled with laterally condensed gutta-percha and no sealer and the
other four groups were filled with laterally condensed gutta-percha and
either Apexit, Sealapex, Tubli-Seal, or AH26 sealer. After storage in
100% humidity at 37°C for 48 h, the root surfaces were coated with
nail varnish (except at the apex) and placed in 2% methylene blue dye
solution and centrifuged at 3 x g for 3 min. The roots were sectioned
transversely at 1-mm intervals to determine the following mean levels
of dye penetrations: Apexit, 1.67 mm; Sealapex, 2.28 mm; Tubli-Seal,
1.95 mm; AH26, 0.82 mm; and gutta-percha alone, 8.37 mm. This study
demonstrated that a root canal sealer should be used in conjunction
with laterally condensed gutta-percha and that AH26 sealer provides a
significantly better apical seal than the other sealers.

reference:  http://tinyurl.com/4dvgr
George Chatzipetros - 18 Mar 2005 09:35 GMT
> Bill's message:
> What's in AH26? No formaldehyde, I hope! According to this 1991
> abstract, at least it does a good job of sealing:

Bill, I think AH26 contains formaldehyde. So does N2. I don't see
where's the problem. Formaldehyde is a natural ingredient of many
foods, including pork and milk, and the dosage received by one pork
chop exceeds the amount in N2 used for a canal. No serious research has
ever shown that N2 is toxic; condemning it based on horror stories
(where it was used by plonkers who would have caused damage with any
material they used) is not dissimilar to condemning amalgam. The fact
is that the majority of materials we use could be deemed "unsafe"
(amalgam has mercury, guttapercha is cytotoxic and not inert,
composites release free radicals and formaldehyde - surprise,
surprise), but they work. N2 is still in wide use in Europe since its
original conception and no one has died yet! It seems to me that the
bad reputation it has received in the US is a result of a political
game played by the endodontist specialists and the hordes of no win-no
fee lawyers.

George
Aleksandar Predojevic - 18 Mar 2005 13:17 GMT
And what about aestetic fillings.
George Chatzipetros - 18 Mar 2005 18:41 GMT
> And what about aestetic fillings.
>
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Aleksandar, for posterior composites I use SDI's Rok composite. I like
its hardness and the way it handles. It provides great value for money.
I have heard that it is possible to do invisible restorations time
after time by filling up a tooth with a dark shade (say A3.5 or A4) up
to 0.5mm before the margin and doing the last layer in translucent
shade. This should save you a lot of money from buying all the
different shades. I haven't tried that yet, but I think it makes sense
(dark shade to mimic dentine, translucent to mimic enamel).

WB, I don't think we should be absolute in this. AH26 is definitely not
a horrible sealer, considering it's an old one. AH Plus is currently in
widespread use even in the States. Since it has approval for use as a
dental material, I can't see it being indefensible in court. N2 is
indefensible in the US, but not in the rest of the world, and I think
this is more because endodontists waged a war against it rather than
its actual properties. It is interesting that an improved N2 formula
without any lead, arsenic or corticosteroids, but with the formalhedyde
still there, has sought approval by the FDA. If it is approved, N2 will
be back in business in the US.

George
W_B - 18 Mar 2005 16:59 GMT
>Bill, I think AH26 contains formaldehyde. So does N2. I don't see
>where's the problem. Formaldehyde.

Yes is does contain formaldehyde.
*That* is the problem.

It's use is indefensible in court.
N2 or AH26.

Just asking for trouble, doesn't meet the
standards of practice.
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W_B
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W_B - 18 Mar 2005 16:56 GMT
>WB, out of interest, why are you so negative about AH26? Comparing it
>to N2 is quite severe in my opinion and not backed up by research.
>Eugenol-based sealers seem to be a poor choice nowadays.
>
>George

My endodontist buddy informs me that AH26 is a horrible sealer
choice and indefensible in court.
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W_B
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