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Amalgams Are The Number One Source Of Mercury In People

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LadyLollipop - 17 Mar 2005 00:02 GMT
Joel Eichen Is a known LIAR.

He never learns repeating the same old lies, he needs his mercury level
checked as he acts like a chicken with it's head off.

Best to ignore him.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/damspr12.html

The studies found that the amount of mercury excreted in the urine
was proprotional to the number and size of fillings in the victim's mouth.
Moreover many oral habits such as chewing gum, clenching or grinding greatly
increased the amount of mercury released and absorbed.

==

6. Amalgam Fillings Largest Source of Mercury by Far

Based on a number of studies in Sweden, the World Health Organization review
of
inorganic mercury in 1991 determined that mercury absorption is estimated to
be
approximately four times higher from amalgam fillings than from fish
consumption. Recent studies have confirmed this estimate and shown that the
amount absorbed can vary considerably from person to person.

7. Gold Crowns, Gum, Bruxism, Computer Monitors Increase Release of Mercury
Significantly

Gum chewing, bruxism (grinding of teeth), computer terminal exposure,
presence
of gold fillings or gold crowns (even if covering mercury fillings), teeth
brushing, braces and even chewing food cause the release of significantly
increased amounts of mercury from the fillings in one's teeth.

8. Cumulative Poison Builds Up in Organs

Mercury released from fillings builds up in the brain, kidneys, liver,
pituitary, adrenals and other parts of the body.

========

According to the World Health Organization the general sources of mercury in
the body are: Breathed Air (.040 micrograms), Fish (2.34 micrograms),
Non-fish
food (.25 micrograms), Drinking-water .0035 micrograms), mercury vapor from
dental amalgams (3 to 17 micrograms).

*****The mercury vapor from dental amalgam
alone is a bigger source than all the other sources together.*******

Time for a repost from Joel's peers to show how dishonest he is.

==

From Hans a dentist frrom Sweden:

I hope most open-minded people will view Joel's attempts to characterise the
PHS report as
proving that amalgams are safe, as a gross misrepresentation of the facts.
People who rely
on professionals to know their stuff, deserve better.

Hi Judge Joel,

You are representing the most prejudicial attitude I saw in a
long time. Did you get that from being a judge during the witch-
processes in a former life, or what?

Either you are grossly misinformed or you are intentionally
spreading blatant lies.

Hans
=====
Dear Dr. Eichen,

>> It's unfortunate that you don't have anything more constructive to do
>> with your life other than amusing yourself and your colleague dentists
>> by doing internet searches of my name. Am I really that important? I'm
>> flattered!!!
>>
>> The bridge incident was no a laughing matter, it was police abuse. For
>> your information,  the "bridge" incident was overturned by an honest
>> judge in superior court, who was outraged by the police action.
>>
>> I recommend that you do something more constructive and positive with
>> your time to help humanity. Why don't you help your colleagues by
>> informing them of the truth about the toxicity of their daily exposure
>> to mercury from working with amalgam, including your own exposure.
>
>Yep, well said. She nailed you good.
>
>> Frankly, you're an embarrassment to your profession and a danger to
>> the public if you are placing mercury amalgam fillings. Haven't you
>> read the most recent reports from Sweden, Norway and other countries
>> who have for years warned against placing amalgam fillings in children
>> and pregnant women.... these countries are banning the use of mercury
>> amalgams.
Refer your colleagues to WWW.TOXICTEETH.ORG, WWW.TESTFOUNDATION.ORG,
>> WWW.IAOMT.ORG, http://www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/indexa.html,
>> and give them the studies which show that dentists have the highest
>> rate of suicide professionaly in this country.
>>
>> I suggest you keep up with the significant news of the day.....or are
>> you still reading comic books.

===

To everyone who do not understand why Joel wants to make
a complete fool out of himself,

Wrong again !  Show me where I ever used the word "tweezers" !

If you cannot support your repeated allegations I can only
conclude you made a pretty big fool out of yourself - again !

Cheers,
Hans

Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>The readers will decide!

Indeed !
The fun part is that this is all about your mind - what
you thought that I said. Sofar you have not been able
to point out anything, in spite of all your re-postings,
to support what you claim I said.  And I'm still waiting!

Hans

Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>At least we settled ...

I've been settling fine all along.  I am waiting for you to prove
that your allegations are right.  Or to watch you trying to
wiggle your way of this.  So Joel, which one will it be?

Joel wrote:
>Hans said Dentatus should be inserted, preferably with tweezers

Hans replied:
>Not with one word did I reveal how I work with the Dentatus. Not
>one single word!  Neither did I mention the word "tweezers" !

Still waiting ....

Hans

Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>Funny. Hans turning the circumstance around . . . .

That was a nice attempt to wiggle.  What's next?

Sill waiting for you to prove that your allegations are right.

Or to keep on watching you wiggle until you smoke yourself.

Which one is next?  Smoke or standard smokescreen?

Hans

Everything else here is Joel's attempts to make a huge
smokescreen so no one will spot him in his attempts to
pry his foot out of his mouth. Thats all there is

>Nelson wrote:
>
>>I had to unblock Joel to remove his expected excuse for attacking me
>>non-public in private e-mail and copied the following to see his style in
>>the group for all to see.  As usual, he ignors the question asked and
>>starts
>>quoting the same BS.
>>I never said what you state below I said.  Let me rephrase the question.
>>Are you saying mercury does no hard to the human body?  NOw that is the
>>question, Joel.  Please a simple answer.  If the government agencies,
>>"CDC,
>>USPHS and 53 dental schools" say something, it means it is absolutely the
>>truth?  What an obsurd correlation made by you.
>>Notice how the comment by LD Pankey was taken completely out of context.
>>A
>>quote of a man was given about whether a person can change much (I was
>>referring to you, Joel) and you make the ignorant statement you did about
>>what he taught.  Precisely because you have not studied what he taught and
>>yet have a strong judgement against him shows your ignorance and
>>predjudice.
>>Do not put words in my mouth or characterize what I saw differently than
>>actually said for your own means.  I believe the reason the CDC, USPHS,
>>being government agencies, will err on the side of caution before they
>>state
>>that amalgam is harmful.  Quite frankly, I do not think it a lot more
>>harmful than the air breathed in Southern California.  This doesn't make
>>the
>>air in Southern California clean, though.  I suppose you are an expert on
>>the air in Southern California and will state that since the air quality
>>is
>>in "acceptable limits" and there isn't a cig alert (limit activities and
>>stay inside as much as possible) that there is nothing wrong with the air.
>>I choose to not do amalgams because I believe the difference between them
>>and today's resins (less than 1/3 the occl table) are not significant
>>enough
>>to place a known toxin in someones mouth.  This is a personal decision.  I
>>also do a lot of gold work and, probably unlike you Joel, I trust my
>>patients and they pay me $50 a month and we do good dentistry.
>>I am blocking you from my personal e-mail access, but will let the
>>newsgroup
>>stay open for a while so you can prove why you are probably the most
>>blocked
>>smd user of all time.  I respect your right to state an opinion, I just
>>don't have to read it.
>>Other comments in text:
Subject: Re: Outta here for awhile
From: "Dr. Steve" smancus.takeout@home.msen.com
Date: 3/18/03 10:17 PM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <v7fo43feqokq88@corp.supernews.com>

See Joel???

Your constant ridiculous cross posting of stuff no one but you is interested
in has driven more people off this forum.  Before long. it will be just the
Eichen cross posting news.

LL
Joel M. Eichen - 17 Mar 2005 00:15 GMT
>Joel Eichen Is a known LIAR.

Known by ....... JAN?

>He never learns repeating the same old lies, he needs his mercury level
>checked as he acts like a chicken with it's head off.

Jan worries about 17 micrograms while tons are at issue.

Joel

>Best to ignore him.
>
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>
>LL
Joel M. Eichen - 17 Mar 2005 00:15 GMT
>Best to ignore him.

Cancel "him" .... NOPE Cancel HER!
John Chewter - 17 Mar 2005 00:48 GMT
>Jan Is a known LIAR.
>
> She never learns repeating the same old lies, she needs her mercury level
> checked as she acts like a chicken with it's head off.
>
> Best to ignore her.

Signature

John Chewter
http://www.keyneimage.co.uk

> Joel Eichen Is a known LIAR.
>
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>
> LL
LadyLollipop - 17 Mar 2005 04:00 GMT
> >Joel Eichen Is a known LIAR. John encourages and repeats his lies, and
> >calls it humor. He also make claims he can't back up. When asked to do
> >so, he insults.

>> HE never learns repeating the same old lies, he needs her mercury level
>> checked as he acts like a chicken with it's head off.
>>
>> Best to ignore him.

>> Joel Eichen Is a known LIAR.
>>
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>>
>> LL
Fawks - 17 Mar 2005 05:31 GMT
I don't think J** has ever seen what her crap looks like on Google.
She would be very disappointed.

;-)
Fawks
Joel M. Eichen - 17 Mar 2005 12:28 GMT
>I don't think J** has ever seen what her crap looks like on Google.
>She would be very disappointed.
>
>;-)
>Fawks

Pig turd reference again?
John Chewter - 17 Mar 2005 08:27 GMT
Hey Guys take a look at Jan's post above - she has used selective snipping
to make look as if I flamed Joel. In fact it is from her post. As that would
have been quite clever and Jan is not, this may have been a mistake.

If not........Bearing False Witness Jan. Tut Tut.   God will not be pleased
........ When on the Day of Judgement, they Google the Book of Life, it may
take them decades to stop laughing.

Signature

John Chewter
http://www.keyneimage.co.uk

>> >Joel Eichen Is a known LIAR. John encourages and repeats his lies, and
>> >calls it humor. He also make claims he can't back up. When asked to do
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>>
>>> Best to ignore him.
LadyLollipop - 17 Mar 2005 09:11 GMT
Joel Eichen Is a known LIAR.

He never learns repeating the same old lies, he needs his mercury level
checked as he acts like a chicken with it's head off.

Best to ignore him.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/?~berniew1/damspr12.html

The studies found that the amount of mercury excreted in the urine
was proprotional to the number and size of fillings in the victim's mouth.
Moreover many oral habits such as chewing gum, clenching or grinding greatly
increased the amount of mercury released and absorbed.

==

6. Amalgam Fillings Largest Source of Mercury by Far

Based on a number of studies in Sweden, the World Health Organization review
of
inorganic mercury in 1991 determined that mercury absorption is estimated to
be
approximately four times higher from amalgam fillings than from fish
consumption. Recent studies have confirmed this estimate and shown that the
amount absorbed can vary considerably from person to person.

7. Gold Crowns, Gum, Bruxism, Computer Monitors Increase Release of Mercury
Significantly

Gum chewing, bruxism (grinding of teeth), computer terminal exposure,
presence
of gold fillings or gold crowns (even if covering mercury fillings), teeth
brushing, braces and even chewing food cause the release of significantly
increased amounts of mercury from the fillings in one's teeth.

8. Cumulative Poison Builds Up in Organs

Mercury released from fillings builds up in the brain, kidneys, liver,
pituitary, adrenals and other parts of the body.

========

According to the World Health Organization the general sources of mercury in
the body are: Breathed Air (.040 micrograms), Fish (2.34 micrograms),
Non-fish
food (.25 micrograms), Drinking-water .0035 micrograms), mercury vapor from
dental amalgams (3 to 17 micrograms).

*****The mercury vapor from dental amalgam
alone is a bigger source than all the other sources together.*******

Time for a repost from Joel's peers to show how dishonest he is.

==

From Hans a dentist frrom Sweden:

I hope most open-minded people will view Joel's attempts to characterise the
PHS report as
proving that amalgams are safe, as a gross misrepresentation of the facts.
People who rely
on professionals to know their stuff, deserve better.

Hi Judge Joel,

You are representing the most prejudicial attitude I saw in a
long time. Did you get that from being a judge during the witch-
processes in a former life, or what?

Either you are grossly misinformed or you are intentionally
spreading blatant lies.

Hans
=====
Dear Dr. Eichen,

- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

>> It's unfortunate that you don't have anything more constructive to do
>> with your life other than amusing yourself and your colleague dentists by
>> doing internet searches of my name. Am I really that important? I'm
>> flattered!!!

>> The bridge incident was no a laughing matter, it was police abuse. For
>> your information,  the "bridge" incident was overturned by an honest
>> judge in superior court, who was outraged by the police action.

>> I recommend that you do something more constructive and positive with
>> your time to help humanity. Why don't you help your colleagues by
>> informing them of the truth about the toxicity of their daily exposure to
>> mercury from working with amalgam, including your own exposure.

>Yep, well said. She nailed you good.

>> Frankly, you're an embarrassment to your profession and a danger to the
>> public if you are placing mercury amalgam fillings. Haven't you read the
>> most recent reports from Sweden, Norway and other countries who have for
>> years warned against placing amalgam fillings in children and pregnant
>> women.... these countries are banning the use of mercury amalgams.

Refer your colleagues to WWW.TOXICTEETH.ORG, WWW.TESTFOUNDATION.ORG,

>> WWW.IAOMT.ORG, http://www.home.earthlink.net/?~berniew1/indexa.html, and
>> give them the studies which show that dentists have the highest rate of
>> suicide professionaly in this country.

>> I suggest you keep up with the significant news of the day.....or are you
>> still reading comic books.

===

To everyone who do not understand why Joel wants to make
a complete fool out of himself,

Wrong again !  Show me where I ever used the word "tweezers" !

If you cannot support your repeated allegations I can only
conclude you made a pretty big fool out of yourself - again !

Cheers,
Hans

Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>The readers will decide!

Indeed !
The fun part is that this is all about your mind - what
you thought that I said. Sofar you have not been able
to point out anything, in spite of all your re-postings,
to support what you claim I said.  And I'm still waiting!

Hans

Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>At least we settled ...

I've been settling fine all along.  I am waiting for you to prove
that your allegations are right.  Or to watch you trying to
wiggle your way of this.  So Joel, which one will it be?

Joel wrote:
>Hans said Dentatus should be inserted, preferably with tweezers

Hans replied:

>Not with one word did I reveal how I work with the Dentatus. Not one single
>word!  Neither did I mention the word "tweezers" !

Still waiting ....

Hans

Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>Funny. Hans turning the circumstance around . . . .

That was a nice attempt to wiggle.  What's next?

Sill waiting for you to prove that your allegations are right.

Or to keep on watching you wiggle until you smoke yourself.

Which one is next?  Smoke or standard smokescreen?

Hans

Everything else here is Joel's attempts to make a huge
smokescreen so no one will spot him in his attempts to
pry his foot out of his mouth. Thats all there is

- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

>Nelson wrote:

>>I had to unblock Joel to remove his expected excuse for attacking me
>>non-public in private e-mail and copied the following to see his style in
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>>your right to state an opinion, I just don't have to read it. Other
>>comments in text:

Subject: Re: Outta here for awhile
From: "Dr. Steve" smancus.take...@home.msen.com
Date: 3/18/03 10:17 PM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <v7fo43feqok...@corp.supernews?.com>

See Joel???

Your constant ridiculous cross posting of stuff no one but you is interested
in has driven more people off this forum.  Before long. it will be just the
Eichen cross posting news.

LL
John Chewter - 17 Mar 2005 10:07 GMT
Jan Is a known LIAR.

She never learns repeating the same old lies, she needs her mercury level
checked as she acts like a chicken with it's head off.

Best to ignore her.

Signature

John Chewter
http://www.keyneimage.co.uk

Joel M. Eichen - 17 Mar 2005 12:29 GMT
>Joel Eichen Is a known LIAR.

Jan Drew is a known pig turd .....

(Two can play Jan)

>He never learns repeating the same old lies, he needs his mercury level
>checked as he acts like a chicken with it's head off.
[quoted text clipped - 214 lines]
>
>LL
 
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