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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / March 2005Can a crown that's too low cause these problems?
I recently visited a new (to me) but highly recommended and reputable dentist because I was experiencing severe headaches and jaw pain. Previously I'd seen an GP and ENT because we thought it was a sinus issue - head CT showed nothing except some thick mucus in my right maxillary sinus. Dentist took x-rays and found nothing but upon further exam. saw a very slight crack in #30, and said the reason for crack was the stress of the old mercury filling and that he suspected TMJ (this fits w/my husband's complaints about my popping jaw, which I do not notice, and I do know I grind my teeth, but with 3 kids under 5 the stress is gonna come out somewhere, right? : ) DDS suggested a crown on #30 (my first crown!) and in process of prepping the tooth he said there would be no need for buildup (saved me $ so I was glad at the time). Well, it's a beautiful porcelain thing but after 2 weeks was still tender and that side of my mouth seemed "off" so I went back in and had his assistant polish just a tip of the inside corner off, thinking that it was pushing up against a tooth above it and that was causing the pain. She did a bite test on me and said there looked to be no problem, that the crown was not even showing up on the paper. She humored me and did a little work anyway. No immediate relief but it did feel slightly better after the nerve calmed down after all that high speed polishing. It's now 1.5 months post-crown and the right side of my mouth has a nearly unbearable low-grade ache that is , strangely, no coming from #30. I'm taking 800 mgs of advil 2x day and it's helping a bit. I think my bite is still off. When I close my mouth on that side it feels as though the new crown is too low and the teeth nearer the front of my mouth (don't know the #'s but my eye teeth hurt on top and bottom and also those next to eye teeth on top and bottom. What to do? Should I even go back? Is there a way to test my bite at home? Could this just be the TMJ acting up again? Would clenching my teeth throughout the day cause this kind of pain? Find a better dentist? ACK! This is horrible. I appreciate any and all input on my situation, and hope I've explained well enough to ensure understanding. thanks tesla www.nti-tss.com www.headachehope.com  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... >I recently visited a new (to me) but highly recommended and reputable > dentist because I was experiencing severe headaches and jaw pain. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > tesla Sounds too good to be true, but Dr. Steve is right on the money with this one. You probably cracked the tooth with night time clenching (if it was really cracked in the first place). A few injections, an hour or so of opening wide, the bite changed ever so slightly, and you are now in pain. Get an NTI and you should get relief quickly. JME, Fawks > www.nti-tss.com > > www.headachehope.com >I recently visited a new (to me) but highly recommended and reputable >dentist because I was experiencing severe headaches and jaw pain. OK >Previously I'd seen an GP and ENT because we thought it was a sinus >issue - head CT showed nothing except some thick mucus in my right >maxillary sinus. Dentist took x-rays and found nothing but upon >further exam. saw a very slight crack in #30, and said the reason for >crack was the stress of the old mercury filling and that he suspected Uh-oh, those mercury fillings ..... >TMJ (this fits w/my husband's complaints about my popping jaw, which I >do not notice, and I do know I grind my teeth, but with 3 kids under 5 [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >nearly unbearable low-grade ache that is , strangely, no coming from >#30. I'm taking 800 mgs of advil 2x day and it's helping a bit. Is this an undiagnosed chronic periapical abscess? Joel >I think my bite is still off. When I close my mouth on that side it >feels as though the new crown is too low and the teeth nearer the front [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >This is horrible. I appreciate any and all input on my situation, and >hope I've explained well enough to ensure understanding. What does the DENTIST say, not the assistant say? YOU WROTE "off" so I went back in and had his assistant polish just a tip of the inside corner off, thinking that it was pushing up against a tooth above it and that was causing the pain. She did a bite test on m ASSISTANT, eh? >thanks > >tesla >It's now 1.5 months post-crown and the right side of my mouth has a >nearly unbearable low-grade ache that is , strangely, no coming from >#30. I'm taking 800 mgs of advil 2x day and it's helping a bit. May need root canal therapy (RCT) >I think my bite is still off. NTI Get it checked by the dentist. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Wow. That NTI site is one of the most graphically busy, confusing and barely navigable sites I've ever encountered BUT the apparatus itself sounds like a godsend. Is this what my dds is referring to when he says we need to custom fit for a night guard to deal w/my TMJ symptoms?? thanks for the replies, btw. oh, and I wanted to add: I haven't had a headache in months. Only jaw joint paint and cheek pain. I assume this wouldn't change need for the NTI (lack of headache)?? tesla No. TMJ symptoms go away pretty fast IME. Fawks > Is this what my dds is referring to when he says we need to custom fit > for a night guard to deal w/my TMJ symptoms?? Probably not. You need to look at the list of providers on the website to find someone that understands the device. BTW, nothing else works as well (no matter how much it costs). Fawks > BTW, nothing else works as well (no matter how much it costs). And people didn't think you could find pearls in rural Missouri carabelli >> BTW, nothing else works as well (no matter how much it costs). > >And people didn't think you could find pearls in rural Missouri > >carabelli I didn't even know you had oysters out there ...... Joel >>> BTW, nothing else works as well (no matter how much it costs). >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Joel Mountain oysters. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > >I didn't even know you had oysters out there ...... > > > >Joel > > > Mountain oysters. Meadow Muffins SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet I don't think the 'oysters' around here have much to do with pearls. ;-) Fawks >>BTW, nothing else works as well (no matter how much it costs). > > And people didn't think you could find pearls in rural Missouri > > carabelli Pearl necklace ? >I don't think the 'oysters' around here have much to do with >pearls. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> carabelli -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >Wow. That NTI site is one of the most graphically busy, confusing and >barely navigable sites I've ever encountered BUT the apparatus itself >sounds like a godsend. We told him to pay for his website by the site and not by the page ...... Joel >Is this what my dds is referring to when he says we need to custom fit >for a night guard to deal w/my TMJ symptoms?? > >thanks for the replies, btw. > Wow. That NTI site is one of the most graphically busy, confusing and > barely navigable sites I've ever encountered BUT the apparatus itself > sounds like a godsend. > > Is this what my dds is referring to when he says we need to custom fit > for a night guard to deal w/my TMJ symptoms?? I doubt it very much. A conventional night-guard will protect your teeth from damage, but could make TMD and headache problems worse. Plus, the conventional appliance requires two appointments to deliver and a bunch more to adjust it. >> Wow. That NTI site is one of the most graphically busy, confusing and >> barely navigable sites I've ever encountered BUT the apparatus itself [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >conventional appliance requires two appointments to deliver and a bunch more >to adjust it. Parafunction ...... >Wow. That NTI site is one of the most graphically busy, confusing and >barely navigable sites I've ever encountered BUT the apparatus itself >sounds like a godsend. > >Is this what my dds is referring to when he says we need to custom fit >for a night guard to deal w/my TMJ symptoms?? Probably not. If your doc was doing NTI's he would probably refer to it by name. >thanks for the replies, btw. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Could this just be the TMJ acting up again? Hey, I can answer this one, and I've only been here a few weeks *and* I'm not a dentist. You need an NTI mouthguard. Am I right? >> Could this just be the TMJ acting up again? > > Hey, I can answer this one, and I've only been here a few weeks *and* > I'm not a dentist. You need an NTI mouthguard. > > Am I right? You brand new non-reflective packaged 5 1/4 floppy disc reward is in the mail. You are right. >>> Could this just be the TMJ acting up again? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >You brand new non-reflective packaged 5 1/4 floppy disc reward is in the >mail. You are right. Whot ?! only one ?! -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>> Could this just be the TMJ acting up again? >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Whot ?! only one ?! My first foray into floppies they cost $40 for a box of ten! >>>>> Could this just be the TMJ acting up again? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >My first foray into floppies they cost $40 for a box of ten! Kinda like the old single speed CDR's something like $20 for two. Now high speed CDR's are about 50¢/ea -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>My first foray into floppies they cost $40 for a box of ten! >> >Kinda like the old single speed CDR's something like $20 for two. >Now high speed CDR's are about 50¢/ea Yup. Or 'puters themselves ....... used to cost a lot. >>>My first foray into floppies they cost $40 for a box of ten! >>> >>Kinda like the old single speed CDR's something like $20 for two. >>Now high speed CDR's are about 50¢/ea > >Yup. Or 'puters themselves ....... used to cost a lot. Bleeding edge hardware still costs big bucks. Problem is, soon afterwards the newest latest greatest comes out. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>Kinda like the old single speed CDR's something like $20 for two. >>>Now high speed CDR's are about 50¢/ea [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Bleeding edge hardware still costs big bucks. >Problem is, soon afterwards the newest latest greatest comes out. Pencil and paper has not gone up that much. >-- W_B said: > >Bleeding edge hardware still costs big bucks. > >Problem is, soon afterwards the newest latest greatest comes out. > Pencil and paper has not gone up that much. The Pipe snivelled: I keep having to re-boot my pencils, and there is incompatibility between my pencils and my paper. Vat to do? SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet George scribbled >> >Bleeding edge hardware still costs big bucks. >> >Problem is, soon afterwards the newest latest greatest comes out. Joel scribbled >> Pencil and paper has not gone up that much. The Pipe snivelled: > I keep having to re-boot my pencils, and there is incompatibility > between my pencils and my paper. > Vat to do? Dr. Steve coughed up: You could try upgrading your eraser. Maybe add more turns to your pencil sharpener? I personally hate the "failure to flip page" error message. > Dr. Steve coughed up: > > You could try upgrading your eraser. Maybe add more turns to your pencil > sharpener? I personally hate the "failure to flip page" error message. yep, that's a real bad 'un that... a real show-stopper! SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >> Pencil and paper has not gone up that much. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Vat to do? >SP The analogy I like is going to the grocery store and not being able to buy certain frozen foods as your current freezer would not be able to keep them cold ...... Yet we accept this in the computer world! Joel I think it is more like not being able to buy certain types of fire-wood because your fireplace only accepts Birch-wood. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >>> Pencil and paper has not gone up that much. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Joel >I think it is more like not being able to buy certain types of fire-wood >because your fireplace only accepts Birch-wood. Actually, that is a good limitation ...... >>I think it is more like not being able to buy certain types of fire-wood >>because your fireplace only accepts Birch-wood. > >Actually, that is a good limitation ...... But what if you want to burn oak. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>I think it is more like not being able to buy certain types of fire-wood >>>because your fireplace only accepts Birch-wood. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > But what if you want to burn oak. > -- Then,,,,, you buy an Oakintosh Fireplace. >>>>I think it is more like not being able to buy certain types of fire-wood >>>>because your fireplace only accepts Birch-wood. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Then,,,,, you buy an Oakintosh Fireplace. As distinguished from a Crapintosh Fireplace ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com W_B <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote after others' blathering: > >> But what if you want to burn oak. > >> -- [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > W_B I'll have you know that Crapintosh Fireplaces burn Windoze Boxes, and burp up iPods. Cheers SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >W_B <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote after others' blathering: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Cheers >SP Kewl, I wouldn't mind having an iPod, and just happen to have an old Windoze box. Can I get that fireplace at Home Depot ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Kewl, I wouldn't mind having an iPod, and just happen to have an old > Windoze box. Can I get that fireplace at Home Depot ? > -- Actually, wrt the miniMac, I wouldn't be surprised if you _could_ get it there. Jobs is aiming it at _any_ computer configuration now in existance. You just add a couple of wires and presto, you have an OS X Mac coming through your existing monitor, keyboard and mouse. So, now you can have your Windoze box, your Crapintosh, your cake and your Bailey's Irish creme and eat and drink it too. Speaking of which, Happy St. Pat's Day! Wassail! Blast... SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >> Kewl, I wouldn't mind having an iPod, and just happen to have an old >> Windoze box. Can I get that fireplace at Home Depot ? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Blast... >SP Now that sounds interesting, what does the miniMac cost ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > So, now > >you can have your Windoze box, your Crapintosh, your cake and your [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Now that sounds interesting, what does the miniMac cost ? > -- You'd have to check it out in your area, but I _think_ it's about 500$ USA-ian dollars (495$). Good add-on for you rich USA-ian dentists.... cheers SP SignatureFinally: take out the TRASHH >> So, now >> >you can have your Windoze box, your Crapintosh, your cake and your [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >cheers >SP Thanks. Can build a windoze box for less. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >> Could this just be the TMJ acting up again? > >Hey, I can answer this one, and I've only been here a few weeks *and* >I'm not a dentist. You need an NTI mouthguard. > >Am I right? Yep, and you get a gold star. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com |
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