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Can an implant be used as an anchor (abutment) for a bridge?

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Michael T - 14 Mar 2005 19:28 GMT
Last year I had teeth 18 & 22 (17 was extracted years ago) prepped to be
used as anchors for a 4-tooth porcelain fixed bridge. The bridge was later
attached to span teeth 18-22.

Unfortunately the bridge came loose and a trip to my dentist revealed that
tooth 22 was fractured and I was told he would have to basically start all
over and replace the bridge with an appliance. Not an attractive option and
not well received I might add.

Anyway it recently occurred to me that perhaps the fractured tooth #22 could
be replaced with an implant - thus allowing me to have the original bridge
reattached.

So my question is simply "Is this doable?" If so, what are the pitfalls, if
any? Presumably I must see an oral surgeon for this.

As always, thank you for your time.

Michael T.
Michael T - 14 Mar 2005 19:48 GMT
Obviously if I am saying a 4-tooth bridge, I should have stated that it
spanned 18-21 - NOT 18-22. Sorry about that.

> Last year I had teeth 18 & 22 (17 was extracted years ago) prepped to be
> used as anchors for a 4-tooth porcelain fixed bridge. The bridge was later
> attached to span teeth 18-22.
The Real Paul - 14 Mar 2005 19:54 GMT
Unfortunately, the old bridge is a loss. To try to place an implant and
retrofit some kind of abutment into the implant that would serve as support
for the existing bridge...well it would be quite an experiment! To be honest
with you, I don't think it would be wise to have an implant serve as the
sole abutment on one end of a five unit bridge. You may need two implants
placed to support a new bridge. Also, I'm not sure that a natural tooth
abutment with its ability to move on biting and the implant on the other end
of the bridge affixed to the underlying bone with no give is a great idea.
Maybe have the part of the bridge that was on #18 sectioned from the old
bridge and reseated permanently as a single crown. Then have a couple of
implants placed to support a new bridge from 19-22. I'm sure others here
will have other great ideas/options for you.

Why did #22 break off to start with???

> Last year I had teeth 18 & 22 (17 was extracted years ago) prepped to be
> used as anchors for a 4-tooth porcelain fixed bridge. The bridge was later
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>
> Michael T.
Dr Steve - 14 Mar 2005 20:56 GMT
Breaking a tooth like this probably points to night-time clenching (what I
like to refer to as isometric-grinding).  Clench with great force and rock
the jaw back and forth with the teeth clamped down really hard.  Eventually
the weakest point will let go.  The forces we are talking about here are
enormous and you can do this while sleeping for many hours every night.
Usually, the patient does not even know they are doing this until the
dentist points out all the other effects which are evident.

I have seen bridges supported by an implant on one end and a tooth on the
other end hold up well long term.  However, literature tells us this is not
the wisest way to restore function.  There is too much difference in
compressibility of what is supporting the bridge on each end.

You would probably be better served with two implants supporting a new
3-unit bridge and cutting the crown off the back end of the old bridge and
leaving it on the back tooth so that you do not have make a new crown there.

Regardless of what plan of action you pursue, you need to protect your teeth
while sleeping.   www.nti-tss.com

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> Unfortunately, the old bridge is a loss. To try to place an implant and
> retrofit some kind of abutment into the implant that would serve as
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>> Michael T.
Jorge Bonilla - 14 Mar 2005 22:56 GMT
I agree with the other dentists who recommend cutting the bridge
leaving a crown for #18 and have two implants with a bridge. A bridge
between a natural tooth and an implant is a bad idea.
Dr. Bonilla
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Mar 2005 23:02 GMT
>I agree with the other dentists who recommend cutting the bridge
>leaving a crown for #18 and have two implants with a bridge. A bridge
>between a natural tooth and an implant is a bad idea.
>Dr. Bonilla

True, its like mixing Haagen Das ice cream with Shop-Rite chocolate
sauce in the same bowl.

Joel
W_B - 15 Mar 2005 00:28 GMT
>Why did #22 break off to start with???

Parafunction.
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Joel M. Eichen - 15 Mar 2005 01:01 GMT
>>Why did #22 break off to start with???
>>
>Parafunction.

You beat me to it.
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Mar 2005 22:09 GMT
>Last year I had teeth 18 & 22 (17 was extracted years ago) prepped to be
>used as anchors for a 4-tooth porcelain fixed bridge. The bridge was later
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>over and replace the bridge with an appliance. Not an attractive option and
>not well received I might add.

Why not a post, depending on where it is fractured? Then one could
recement after a Reverse-Post-Core Buildup procedure.

>Anyway it recently occurred to me that perhaps the fractured tooth #22 could
>be replaced with an implant - thus allowing me to have the original bridge
>reattached.
>
>So my question is simply "Is this doable?" If so, what are the pitfalls, if
>any? Presumably I must see an oral surgeon for this.

Nope, an implant crown is different from a regular crown, plus a
bridge cannot span a natural tooth and an implant anchor.

Joel

>As always, thank you for your time.
>
>Michael T.
W_B - 15 Mar 2005 00:26 GMT
>Last year I had teeth 18 & 22 (17 was extracted years ago) prepped to be
>used as anchors for a 4-tooth porcelain fixed bridge. The bridge was later
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>be replaced with an implant - thus allowing me to have the original bridge
>reattached.

Implant for 19 and 22 then place FPD (bridge)
single crown on 18

>So my question is simply "Is this doable?" If so, what are the pitfalls, if
>any? Presumably I must see an oral surgeon for this.

You cannot attach an implant to a natural tooth.
Natural teeth move. Implants do not.
This dooms the bridge to failure.

>As always, thank you for your time.
>
>Michael T.

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StovePipe - 15 Mar 2005 07:27 GMT
> So my question is simply "Is this doable?" If so, what are the pitfalls, if
> any? Presumably I must see an oral surgeon for this.

I would say that this is not doable. In fact, if the patient really
wanted to try it, I'd refer him/her to the prosthodontist.

I would also advise you to get a predetermination for your insurance (if
any) to see if the dentist that evaluated claims like this agrees with
me or not. If the evaluating dentist doesn't believe it will work, your
company won't insure it.

I aslo agree with the others in saying you need to protect the rest of
your mouth with an NTI. This goes DOUBLY so if you decide to get an all
implant bridge and single crown.

www.nti-tss.com

Cheers
SP
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Michael T - 17 Mar 2005 15:47 GMT
I want to thank all of you for taking the time to offer advice.

It appears my two options are the following:

1) Ask my regular dentist to go forward with his approach - which is to
replace the 4-tooth fixed bridge with an appliance.

OR

2) Have an oral surgeon consider reattaching the bridge using two (as
opposed to one) implants.

Oh well.

--
Michael

> Last year I had teeth 18 & 21 (17 was extracted years ago) prepped to be
> used as anchors for a 4-tooth porcelain fixed bridge. The bridge was later
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>
> Michael T.
 
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