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carabelli - 03 Mar 2005 04:37 GMT
Well, have any of you instituted this in conjunction with a HD medical plan
in your office?  I'm am trying to get the staff to understand the benefits
of it.  Somebody must have been asleep in Washington to let something that
makes this much sense become law.

carabelli
Bill - 03 Mar 2005 20:11 GMT
Carabelli wrote:

"Well, have any of you instituted this in conjunction with a HD medical
plan
in your office?  I'm am trying to get the staff to understand the
benefits
of it.  Somebody must have been asleep in Washington to let something
that
makes this much sense become law."

For people with good sense and personal discipline in financial
matters, it's a great opportunity.

The problem is that most people simply don't have a great deal of
financial discipline. If that weren't a fact, most of the furniture
stores, credit card companies, and auto dealers in this country would
be out of business!

The ability of people to make a monthly payment, rather than the total
cost of the item purchased, is the driving force behind large purchase
decisions for too many consumers. I suspect that only the very savvy
will take advantage of the HD medical insurance possibilities.

Good luck -- the numbers make great sense!
- dentaldoc
carabelli - 04 Mar 2005 04:37 GMT
> Carabelli wrote:
>
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> Good luck -- the numbers make great sense!
> - dentaldoc

Actually, for them it would take no discipline.  I would fund it with the
savings gained from switching to a HD policy.  I may just ram it down their
throats - it's good for you, just like oatmeal.

carabelli
StovePipe - 04 Mar 2005 08:31 GMT
> Actually, for them it would take no discipline.  I would fund it with the
> savings gained from switching to a HD policy.  I may just ram it down their
> throats - it's good for you, just like oatmeal.
>
> carabelli

Pardon my ignorance (which at times is comparable to that of your two
dogs)... but WHAT are HSA and HD policies?
Thanks
SP
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Tony Bad - 04 Mar 2005 13:25 GMT
> > Actually, for them it would take no discipline.  I would fund it with the
> > savings gained from switching to a HD policy.  I may just ram it down their
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> Thanks
> SP

HSA = Health Savings account

HD = (I think) The high deductible insurance policy one must have along with
an HSA

I imagine your "ignorance (not) is related to fact these are not issues of
concern in the Great White North...not sure if you feel that is a good thing
or bad thing, as opinions among my Canadian friends have differing opinions.
Joel M. Eichen - 04 Mar 2005 14:17 GMT
>> SP
>
>HSA = Health Savings account
>
>HD = (I think) The high deductible insurance policy one must have along with
>an HSA

I was wondering too, THANKS.

I thought it was household Finance or something .........

WAIT, no that's Champion Mortgage that's on your side ......

When the bank says no Champion says YES.
StovePipe - 05 Mar 2005 04:41 GMT
> HSA = Health Savings account
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> concern in the Great White North...not sure if you feel that is a good thing
> or bad thing, as opinions among my Canadian friends have differing opinions.

Thanks, Tony. They will become a concern here, as the system here is
non-sustainable. The proof is the apalling lack of repairs to key
equipment in our hospitals. Universal heath coverage is good as an
ideal, but is quite unattainable for long times.
10-Q loads
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Vaughn - 05 Mar 2005 15:42 GMT
> Thanks, Tony. They will become a concern here, as the system here is
> non-sustainable.

     The system here in the US of A is also non-sustainable.  Medical increases
have been exceeding inflation for way too long.  First, we had the introduction
of HMOs and PPOs which stopped the spiral for a few years.  Now employers can
only fight the huge increases my continuing to unload expenses onto their
employees.  In my case, I could retire today and easily live on the 75% pension
(plus eventual SS) that I would receive for the rest of my life; but there is no
way that I can do that and absorb double-digit health care inflation over the
foreseeable future.  So I continue to work for (effectively) 25% of my pay +
benefits!

Vaughn
StovePipe - 05 Mar 2005 17:11 GMT
>  but there is no
> way that I can do that and absorb double-digit health care inflation over the
> foreseeable future.  So I continue to work for (effectively) 25% of my pay +
> benefits!
>
> Vaughn

I think you are fortunate that you CAN do that... If your work in not
too physically demanding, and the ol' COMPUTER No. ONE stays intact,
you're golden. There are many others, I'm sure that are not so
fortunate.

Worst comes to worst, you could open up a gliding school...
SP
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Tony Bad - 05 Mar 2005 22:36 GMT
> > HSA = Health Savings account
> >
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> 10-Q loads
> SP

Wow...I read my post over when reading your reply. Glad you were able to
make sense of it...I must have been half asleep when I wrote that. Your
views on Canada's health system echo some of those of my friends. It is too
bad, as it is a noble idea.

T
carabelli - 04 Mar 2005 13:31 GMT
> > Actually, for them it would take no discipline.  I would fund it with the
> > savings gained from switching to a HD policy.  I may just ram it down their
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> --
> Not a real Addy, yet

HD - a high deductible health ins policy (ie  the first $2500 is out of your
pocket)
HSA - a health savings account (funded with pre-tax dollars) used to pay
your out of pocket health care expenses

carabelli
StovePipe - 05 Mar 2005 04:41 GMT
> HD - a high deductible health ins policy (ie  the first $2500 is out of your
> pocket)
> HSA - a health savings account (funded with pre-tax dollars) used to pay
> your out of pocket health care expenses
>
> carabelli

Good, thanks... Might be a good idea to write that into your employees'
contracts that they must participate, if you're going to shove it at
them, as you said yesterday.
Cheers
SP
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Vaughn - 05 Mar 2005 15:29 GMT
> HD - a high deductible health ins policy (ie  the first $2500 is out of your
> pocket)
> HSA - a health savings account (funded with pre-tax dollars) used to pay
> your out of pocket health care expenses

    Without doing any research, I was under the general impression that those
were only for the self-employed.  Was I wrong?  And I agree, they make great
sense.

Vaughn

> carabelli
W_B - 05 Mar 2005 18:25 GMT
OK, please bring me up to speed on
HD med plan.

>> Carabelli wrote:
>>
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>
>carabelli

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W_B

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Take out the G'RBAGE
carabelli - 06 Mar 2005 04:18 GMT
> OK, please bring me up to speed on
> HD med plan.

High Deductible - max out of pocket  ~ 5k for a family, also a prerequisite
to fund the out of pocket with a pretax HSA.  You probably already figured
it out.

My dog will kick you dog's butt - deal with it.

carabelli
NOYB - 07 Mar 2005 01:12 GMT
>> OK, please bring me up to speed on
>> HD med plan.
>
> High Deductible - max out of pocket  ~ 5k for a family, also a
> prerequisite to fund the out of pocket with a pretax HSA.  You probably
> already figured it out.

The high deductible plan can't have a co-pay at doctors office, and can't
have Rx coverage (at least in Florida when I looked at 'em).  That's why I
went with conventional PPO.
W_B - 07 Mar 2005 16:28 GMT
>> OK, please bring me up to speed on
>> HD med plan.
>
>High Deductible - max out of pocket  ~ 5k for a family, also a prerequisite
>to fund the out of pocket with a pretax HSA.  You probably already figured
>it out.

Not quite but will look into it.

>My dog will kick you dog's butt - deal with it.

Oh I thought you said lick.

>carabelli

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carabelli - 07 Mar 2005 21:00 GMT
"W_B" <no_one@nowhere.net> .........

> >High Deductible - max out of pocket  ~ 5k for a family, also a prerequisite
> >to fund the out of pocket with a pretax HSA.  You probably already figured
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>
> Oh I thought you said lick.

Near keyboard disaster.

carabelli
 
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