Hello,
I was wondering if anyone can find a Dental Insurance plan better than
the one I found. It's $39.95/mo and covers the entire family. Every
family member receives up to $1,000 Per Year in PAYMENTS towards their
Dental Bills, on top of huge discounts.
PAYMENTS, real insurance reimbursement is what makes this plan
different from any other discount plans I have found. This includes
the discounts at less per month than the Discount only plans and ALSO
PAYS YOU BACK IN FULL and pays every family member too. This I find
very good. If anyone has found anything better will you please call me
at: 888-660-0080
Here's the website where I found this amazing new plan.
www.1stfamily.com
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Feb 2005 18:14 GMT
>Hello,
>
>I was wondering if anyone can find a Dental Insurance plan better than
>the one I found. It's $39.95/mo and covers the entire family. Every
>family member receives up to $1,000 Per Year in PAYMENTS towards their
>Dental Bills, on top of huge discounts.
Sounds great. Can you sign up for two months and get everything done?
Joel
>PAYMENTS, real insurance reimbursement is what makes this plan
>different from any other discount plans I have found. This includes
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>Here's the website where I found this amazing new plan.
>www.1stfamily.com
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Feb 2005 18:25 GMT
>Hello,
>
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>Here's the website where I found this amazing new plan.
>www.1stfamily.com
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R E P L Y
EXCELLENT!
You reimbusrse me $18 for a prophylaxis. That is amazing. That means
my out-of-pocket expense will only be $2 as the dentist charges $20
for prophy.
Joel
http://www.findaprovider.com/1stfamily
http://www.1stfamily.com/dental_schedule.htm
The Following is a SAMPLE List of Current Scheduled Dental Payments
for Common Dental Services. If you do not see your service on here
you can call us and we can get it for you. When you go to a Preferred
Provider Dentist, his or her fees should not be very much higher or
the same as these reimbursements provided below. If they are higher,
you will have to pay the difference.
Procedure Code Description of Services Maximum Covered Expense
PREVENTIVE
1029 Periodic Oral Exam (Twice in a Benefit Period) $8.00
1110 Prophylaxis (Twice in a Benefit Period) $18.00
1203 Topical Flouride $7.00
1351 Sealant Per Tooth $10.00
0272 Bitewings (2 x-ray films) $8.00
1510 Fixed Space Maintainer (unilateral) $64.00
BASIC
0210 IntraOral Complete Series Including Bitewings $21.00
2140 Amalgam Restoration (Filling) per surface Primary or Permanent
$18.00
7140 Extraction - Erupted tooth or exposed Root $20.00
7250 Surgical Removal of tooth $75.00
5510 Denture Repair $23.00
9220 Deep Sedation General Anesthesia $58.00
MAJOR
5211 Maxillary Partial Denture - resin base $113.00
3310 Endodontics Root Canal $88.00
4341 Periodontal Scaling and Root Planing 4 or more teeth $29.00
2792 Crown Full Cast Noble Metal $127.00
2980 Crown Repair $24.00
6242 Pontics - Porcelain fused to Noble Metal $131.00
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Feb 2005 18:25 GMT
I know ... this is so great. I can get
my teeth cleaned for $2.
Joel
Dentists do not charge more than $20
for teeth cleaning, do they?
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By using our Discount Dentists, AND, by being reimbursed for what's
left, often YOUR NET COST will be Zero, or just a fraction of what you
would have paid without being a member of this plan.
TO FIND A PREFERRED PROVIDER IN YOUR AREA - CLICK HERE
>Hello,
>
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>Here's the website where I found this amazing new plan.
>www.1stfamily.com
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 24 Feb 2005 19:24 GMT
> I know ... this is so great. I can get
> my teeth cleaned for $2.
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> Dentists do not charge more than $20
> for teeth cleaning, do they?
This is a strange product indeed. They seem to bundle
all kinds of services together. Obviously, the benefits stink--still,
I've never seen a program like this marketed to individuals. More
shocking to me is that I saw a couple of participating dentists on the
list who I know.
Steve
> ***
>
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>>Here's the website where I found this amazing new plan.
>>www.1stfamily.com

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
Bill - 24 Feb 2005 20:01 GMT
> This is a strange product indeed. They seem to bundle
> all kinds of services together. Obviously, the benefits stink--still,
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>
> Steve
But are those dentists REALLY on the list? I checked out my town, and
guess what -- they have ME listed on their panel! And this is the first
time I've heard of them.
The listings for my town have many duplications in the names. Most of
the dentists in the entire town are on this "list." It looks like a
simple compilation of names drawn from local phone books. Nobody asked
me if I wanted to join this "list."
The web site has this disclaimer by the lists of dentists:
"The list of providers is as current as possible but is subject to
change at any time. For this reason we require all members to call
member services at the toll free number listed in their membership
materials BEFORE setting an appointment."
This seems to me to be an excuse to steer the "member" to the few
dentists who actually sign up for the plan, as nearly every dentist in
town is listed on the website, even dentists such as myself who are NOT
members of the plan. Bait and switch??
I don't think SMD is a proper venue for this sort of misleading
advertising.
- dentaldoc
Tony Bad - 24 Feb 2005 20:29 GMT
> I don't think SMD is a proper venue for this sort of misleading
> advertising.
>
> - dentaldoc
I don't think a public toilet wall is a good place for this sort of
misleading advertising. I am on the list as well! I also see a lot of towns
that don't exist, making me wonder if the names listed with those towns are
also a fabrication. What a load of crap.
T
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 24 Feb 2005 21:46 GMT
>> This is a strange product indeed. They seem to bundle
>>all kinds of services together. Obviously, the benefits
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>
> - dentaldoc
Well, I should say that this is worse than harmless spam. They don't
have my name on the list, but I would certainly demand my name be
removed if it were.
Steve

Signature
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Feb 2005 23:02 GMT
Very useful though. I always like
deals on tires and rims with my dental care.
Joel
>> I know ... this is so great. I can get
>> my teeth cleaned for $2.
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>>>Here's the website where I found this amazing new plan.
>>>www.1stfamily.com
Vaughn - 24 Feb 2005 20:03 GMT
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if anyone can find a Dental Insurance plan better than
> the one I found.
Are you saying that you just happened to be looking for a dental plan to
buy and found this one and thought it was so great that you wanted to tell us
all about it? Are you saying that you have no monetary interest in this
product?
Are you saying that you are not a scumbag spammer?
Vaughn
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Feb 2005 23:06 GMT
> Are you saying that you just happened to be looking for a dental plan to
>buy and found this one and thought it was so great that you wanted to tell us
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>Vaughn
Vaughn you cynic you.
This is probably just a good-hearted individual who
want to help everyone ....
Kind of like Jan Drew is one!
Joel
StovePipe - 27 Feb 2005 05:21 GMT
> > Are you saying that you just happened to be looking for a dental plan to
> >buy and found this one and thought it was so great that you wanted to tell us
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>
> Joel
Sure.... that's why he has an 800 phone number.... pure, kind soul...
SP

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Joel M. Eichen - 27 Feb 2005 11:02 GMT
>> Kind of like Jan Drew is one!
>>
>> Joel
>
>Sure.... that's why he has an 800 phone number.... pure, kind soul...
>SP
Really? What booklets does Jan sell at her 800 number?
Joel
W_B - 24 Feb 2005 22:30 GMT
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>From: area51@1stfamily.com
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>
>I was wondering if anyone can find a...
...more obvious spam than this
Reported.
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Tony Bad - 24 Feb 2005 22:50 GMT
> ...more obvious spam than this
>
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> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Just so you know...I appreciate your efforts at reporting these...and also
appreciate the artful way you incorporate your comments into the spam offer.
It always brings a smile to my face!
T
W_B - 25 Feb 2005 15:10 GMT
>> ...more obvious spam than this
>>
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>
>T
Thanks T
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Joel M. Eichen - 25 Feb 2005 15:11 GMT
Only problem with reporting, if they stop what will we talk about?
Joel
>>> ...more obvious spam than this
>>>
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>
>Thanks T
StovePipe - 27 Feb 2005 05:21 GMT
> Only problem with reporting, if they stop what will we talk about?
>
> Joel
Sn-Zn-Ag-Cu-............... <sigh...> ...>>Hg<<.... :-(
SP

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Joel M. Eichen - 24 Feb 2005 23:07 GMT
**
OKAY
W_B
**
They are putting you on the list, just for that!
Joel
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>>From: area51@1stfamily.com
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>
>Reported.