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Tooth whitening: for doctors.

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Carol - 23 Feb 2005 13:33 GMT
Hi, I am an italian dentist and I need to know which is the best ligh
for bleaching in the office.
I heard about the disigned light for Zoom whitening gel by Discus
Dental but it is very expensive and I want to  be sure it worth the
money.
Thanks you very much and best regards.
Carol
John Chewter - 23 Feb 2005 13:50 GMT
Current thinking is that lights do not make the teeth any whiter. However it
can shorten treatment time.

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> Hi, I am an italian dentist and I need to know which is the best ligh
> for bleaching in the office.
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> Thanks you very much and best regards.
> Carol
Joel M. Eichen - 23 Feb 2005 14:09 GMT
>Current thinking is that lights do not make the teeth any whiter. However it
>can shorten treatment time.

... and justify the $500 fee.
Joel M. Eichen - 23 Feb 2005 14:08 GMT
>Hi, I am an italian dentist and I need to know which is the best ligh
>for bleaching in the office.

For teeth or for dental uniforms?

Joel

>I heard about the disigned light for Zoom whitening gel by Discus
>Dental but it is very expensive and I want to  be sure it worth the
>money.
>Thanks you very much and best regards.
>Carol
Steven Fawks - 23 Feb 2005 14:24 GMT
It's been proven several times that the 'light' is pure hype.
Power office bleaching systems work faster than take home trays,
but not better.

If you want whiter teeth *today* and you don't care how much
money you spend, knock yourself out.  Otherwise get take home
trays and save a bundle.

6 months from now nobody will be able to tell which bleaching
system you used.

Fawks

> Hi, I am an italian dentist and I need to know which is the best ligh
> for bleaching in the office.
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> Thanks you very much and best regards.
> Carol
W_B - 24 Feb 2005 17:34 GMT
>It's been proven several times that the 'light' is pure hype.
>Power office bleaching systems work faster than take home trays,
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>
>Fawks

Disagree. Have gotten many patients 'off the chart' (whiter
than the Vita guide) into the Illumine guide with the zoom system.
JME

>> Hi, I am an italian dentist and I need to know which is the best ligh
>> for bleaching in the office.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> Thanks you very much and best regards.
>> Carol

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Joel M. Eichen - 24 Feb 2005 17:40 GMT
>>It's been proven several times that the 'light' is pure hype.
>>Power office bleaching systems work faster than take home trays,
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>than the Vita guide) into the Illumine guide with the zoom system.
>JME

Try White-Out ...... 69 cents at Office Max.

>>> Hi, I am an italian dentist and I need to know which is the best ligh
>>> for bleaching in the office.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>> Thanks you very much and best regards.
>>> Carol
NOYB - 24 Feb 2005 18:18 GMT
>>It's been proven several times that the 'light' is pure hype.
>>Power office bleaching systems work faster than take home trays,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> than the Vita guide) into the Illumine guide with the zoom system.
> JME

Every bleached tooth is "off the chart" when the material is first removed.
Once the tooth dessicates (about an hour after they've left your office),
that "off the chart" tooth looks just like the tray-bleached tooth. Fawks
said that  6 months later you can't tell the lasered teeth from the
tray-bleached teeth.  I almost agree.  Except for the fact that the
tray-bleached teeth are whiter 6 months out than the one-appointment laser
bleached ones.

Every dentist that I know who has invested in the in-office systems either:
a) has the patient back for a second or third visit, or b) gives the patient
take-home trays to continue bleaching with.
cent4dentopp@verizon.net - 24 Feb 2005 19:18 GMT
This is a great way for a patient to whiten, and help a child.

Smiles for Life

Who benefits?
Everyone! You save while getting a bright, new smile. The kids get
the money. Dentists take pride in knowing that the time they dedicate
will put smiles on the faces of thousands of children in need.

How do I Know that all of my money is being donated?
Crown Council dental teams donate their services, and Discus Dental
donates all of the whitening supplies. When you pay for your
whitening, you write a check to the Smiles for Life Foundation, not
to the dentist.

Call 856 - 546 0665 - www.cent4dent.com - The Centre for Dentistry at
Haddon Crown
Council dentists can give you whiter teeth!
>From March 1 - June 30, you can save money and time by having a
participating Crown Council dentist professionally whiten your teeth.
With the new ZOOM! Weekender Kit, Crown Council dentists can give you
whiter teeth in just three days. When they do, 100% of the proceeds
are donated to the Smiles for Life Foundation to help children facing
serious health conditions and educational deficiencies in your
community throughout North America.

Give someone you love the luxury of a quality teeth whitening service
for just $295.00 from the participating Crown Council dentist of
their choice. And, another reason to smile - all proceeds go to the
Smiles for Life Foundation.

Outside our area, call 877 4 Smiles, or log onto
www.smilesforlife.com to find the dentist nearest you.
W_B - 24 Feb 2005 22:35 GMT
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>This is a great way for a...

...spammer to work while trying to look legit.

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Steven Fawks - 25 Feb 2005 15:54 GMT
Immediately post appt. is not very relevant.  What do they look like 6
months later?   According to CRA, you can't tell any difference between
systems by that time.  Do you send patients home with trays for maintenance?

Also, as far as the light is concerned, have you ever tried two at the
same time...one with the light and one without...to see if there is any
difference?

Fawks

>>It's been proven several times that the 'light' is pure hype.
>>Power office bleaching systems work faster than take home trays,
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> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
StovePipe - 27 Feb 2005 05:21 GMT
> Also, as far as the light is concerned, have you ever tried two at the
> same time...one with the light and one without...to see if there is any
> difference?
>
> Fawks

I'm gonna mention a bad word here so block yer ears... Steve Weinberg of
DEN-MAT came up here a couple of years ago and told us of his own method
of tooth whitening.

1) Photos before
2) Good ol' silicone gum protection, and then HEAT the teeth with 2X2's
soaked in hot water. Then apply the H2O2 to the teeth. Wait, rinse,
repeat as needed.
3) Photos after
4)Send them home with trays anyways...

Using this logic, I could use a heat lamp in front of the patient's face
and it would do the same as your ZooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMM... 'ceptin'
the patient would sweat all over his teeth...
SP
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Steven Fawks - 23 Feb 2005 14:55 GMT
Oops!  I missed the part about being a dentist!  Anyway, the
basic statements are true.  Lights are for show.  If you want
that as part of the 'song & dance', fine.

CRA has had several articles on bleaching which have not shown
any light, bleach, or system to be superior for long term results.

JMO,
Fawks

> Hi, I am an italian dentist and I need to know which is the best ligh
> for bleaching in the office.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Thanks you very much and best regards.
> Carol
Joel M. Eichen - 23 Feb 2005 14:57 GMT
>Oops!  I missed the part about being a dentist!  Anyway, the
>basic statements are true.  Lights are for show.  If you want
>that as part of the 'song & dance', fine.

Combine the two ...... strobe lights and black lights along with the
dance music.

>CRA has had several articles on bleaching which have not shown
>any light, bleach, or system to be superior for long term results.
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>> Thanks you very much and best regards.
>> Carol
W_B - 24 Feb 2005 17:06 GMT
>Hi, I am an italian dentist and I need to know which is the best ligh
>for bleaching in the office.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Thanks you very much and best regards.
>Carol

Zoom! works great.
All my patients that have had this done
are very satisfied with the results.
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W_B
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