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Self-limiting damage by beef jerky?

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Achy Molars-Sinuses - 22 Feb 2005 12:12 GMT
No, I'm not trying to be silly.  I had root canal treatment on my
first and second upper molars about eight months ago.  They're nicely
dead now.  Most of the time anyway.  Sometimes these two molars and
the wisdom tooth behind them become exquisitely tender, and this
usually happens a few hours *after* I've eaten beef jerky, i.e. quite
tough, chewy food.  It only happens on the side where I had the root
canal treatment, the other side of my jaw copes with the strain of
eating this food just fine.  The pain is worst when chewing pressure
is applied to the affected teeth and it subsides without medication in
a day or two.

Is there something going wrong at the, for want of a better word
"interface" between the teeth and the bone?  Does it simply mean I
should go easier on tough, chewy foods or is it likely that there is
some sort of clinical problem?
The Real Paul - 22 Feb 2005 13:23 GMT
You had the root canals done, but did you have the teeth crowned (capped)? I
hope so because if not then you are going to crack a tooth in half and then
it will need to be extracted. Back teeth need this protection due to the
forces involved in crushing and grinding of food back there and the fact
that the tooth is severely weakened after being hollowed out with the root
canal treatment.

> No, I'm not trying to be silly.  I had root canal treatment on my
> first and second upper molars about eight months ago.  They're nicely
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> should go easier on tough, chewy foods or is it likely that there is
> some sort of clinical problem?
W_B - 22 Feb 2005 20:19 GMT
>Is there something going wrong at the, for want of a better word
>"interface" between the teeth and the bone?  Does it simply mean I
>should go easier on tough, chewy foods or is it likely that there is
>some sort of clinical problem?

Have you had the crowns made for these teeth yet ?

You risk fracture if you haven't.
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Joel M. Eichen - 22 Feb 2005 20:43 GMT
>>Is there something going wrong at the, for want of a better word
>>"interface" between the teeth and the bone?  Does it simply mean I
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>
>You risk fracture if you haven't.

And beware of BJ without the crown ... beef jerky.
Pooty Lizard - 23 Feb 2005 11:21 GMT
>>>Is there something going wrong at the, for want of a better word
>>>"interface" between the teeth and the bone?  Does it simply mean I
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>
> And beware of BJ without the crown ... beef jerky.

I have 3 crowns and it's still tough for jerky.    I suggest a switch
to the softer, gummable, greazy Slim Jim sticks instead.
Joel M. Eichen - 23 Feb 2005 11:23 GMT
>>>>Is there something going wrong at the, for want of a better word
>>>>"interface" between the teeth and the bone?  Does it simply mean I
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>I have 3 crowns and it's still tough for jerky.    I suggest a switch
>to the softer, gummable, greazy Slim Jim sticks instead.

Or try gummy bears if your religion permits you to eat bear.

Joel
Pooty Lizard - 23 Feb 2005 23:20 GMT
> Or try gummy bears if your religion permits you to eat bear.
>
> Joel

They have SUGAR in them Doc!  Or corn syrup.... something delicious.....
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Feb 2005 00:31 GMT
>> Or try gummy bears if your religion permits you to eat bear.
>>
>> Joel
>
>They have SUGAR in them Doc!  Or corn syrup.... something delicious.....

Yup!

Joel
Gail Michael - 25 Feb 2005 13:16 GMT
Can't resist, although no better than you or anyone.
Crown or no crown, if we are what we eat, you are a jerk.   Beef jerkeys
look like they are for animals just by sight.    Switch to salami, baloney,
corned beef, etc.   And we may also be what we drink.
Walking around with a can of soda pop constantly, is a good advertisement
for coke, pepsi, and does not in good faith, advertise the need for a
dentist.    Included in the mix are chocolate, so who can talk.   Right or
wrong, Good teeth throughout life indicate maturity.    So we can almost
say, what we eat or drink is a matter of emotional health?  
As SP would say, will get off the soapbox now, as it is very slippery.

Gail
Joel M. Eichen - 25 Feb 2005 13:53 GMT
>Can't resist, although no better than you or anyone.
>Crown or no crown, if we are what we eat, you are a jerk.   Beef jerkeys
>look like they are for animals just by sight.    Switch to salami, baloney,
>corned beef, etc.  

Better be careeful Gail. W_B may think this is an advertisement for
Shofar or Hebrew National.

> And we may also be what we drink.
>Walking around with a can of soda pop constantly, is a good advertisement
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>
>Gail
W_B - 25 Feb 2005 16:00 GMT
>Switch to salami, baloney,
>>corned beef, etc.  
>
>Better be careeful Gail. W_B may think this is an advertisement for
>Shofar or Hebrew National.

But I like Hebrew National products !
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Joel M. Eichen - 25 Feb 2005 16:54 GMT
>>Switch to salami, baloney,
>>>corned beef, etc.  
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>
>But I like Hebrew National products !

Well the rabbis do not allow any jerky product.
W_B - 26 Feb 2005 15:30 GMT
>>>Switch to salami, baloney,
>>>>corned beef, etc.  
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>
>Well the rabbis do not allow any jerky product.

Didn't know that.

Still looking for kosher ham, can you help ? ;-)

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W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
Joel M. Eichen - 26 Feb 2005 19:09 GMT
>>Well the rabbis do not allow any jerky product.
>>
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>
>--

YES. Rodney Dangerfield.

>W_B
W_B - 26 Feb 2005 21:42 GMT
>>Still looking for kosher ham, can you help ? ;-)
>>
>>--
>
>YES. Rodney Dangerfield.

Good one !

I miss him.

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W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
Joel M. Eichen - 03 Apr 2005 23:13 GMT
Are you implying that beef
jerky is loaded with mercury?

I do not get it.

Joel

> No, I'm not trying to be silly.  I had root canal treatment on my
> first and second upper molars about eight months ago.  They're nicely
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> should go easier on tough, chewy foods or is it likely that there is
> some sort of clinical problem?
 
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