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Amalgam Removal Gets UK Approval

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Keith P Walsh - 14 Feb 2005 19:34 GMT
The General Dental Council (GDC) of the United Kingdom has declared
its approval for dentists removing amalgam dental fillings on health
grounds (see below).

Anne Mills of the GDC's Professional Strandards department has
announced that the practice of replacing amalgam fillings with
alternative materials on the grounds of patients' concerns regarding
their health does not give rise to any grounds for charges of serious
professional misconduct.

Keith P Walsh

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Your ref: SD 11 03 AM

Dear Ms Mills,

Thank you for your reply.

I have no complaint against Dr John Roberts.

The purpose of my enquiry was to elicit some response from an official
source regarding current trends in the choice of dental materials.

As I have already indicated, Dr Roberts has charged patients for the
replacement of their amalgam fillings with alternative materials on
the grounds that the patients' health might be improved as a result.

In your reply you have in turn indicated that you see no degree of
serious professional misconduct in this practice.

Can you please confirm that this is also the view of Dr Leitch?

It has been demonstrated experimentally that metal amalgam dental
fillings generate electrical potentials with magnitudes of up to 350
millivolts. See:

http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/dutch.htm

The resting potential of the human neurological synapse is only 70
millivolts.

When replacing his patients' amalgam fillings, Dr Roberts takes care
to remove those with the largest negative electrical potentials first;
this in accordance with what has become known as the "Huggins
protocol" for the removal of amalgam fillings. See (amongst others):

http://consultclarity.com/blazing/dental.html

I understand that the purpose of this procedure is to avoid causing
unnecessary neurological disturbances as a result of sudden imbalances
in the electrical potentials present in the mouth during amalgam
removal.

Do you think that it is important that other dentists should follow
similar procedures when removing amalgam fillings from their patients'
teeth?

Yours sincerely,

Keith P Walsh

____________________________
Anne Mills <AMills@gdc-uk.org> wrote:
our ref: SD 11 03 AM

Dear Mr Walsh

I write following your email of 9 January 2005 addressed to Mr Jason
Leitch concerning Mr John Roberts which has been passed to me for
reply.

The Council considers complaints about dentists and would be concerned
where there might be a possibility of serious professional misconduct.
You can find information about the Council's complaints procedures on
our website, details of follows:

http://www.gdc-uk.org/pdfs/whattodo(2003).pdf

I have read your letter carefully but am unable to identify any
matters that could raise a question that Mr Roberts is guilty of
serious professional misconduct. However, if after reading the
complaints information you wish to make a complaint you could contact
the Council through the Professional Standards Department and provide
information to show what, in your opinion, the dentist has done wrong.

Yours sincerely

Anne Mills

Anne Mills (Ms)
Professional Standards

Direct Line: 020 7887 3826
e-mail: amills@gdc-uk.org
       
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Feb 2005 20:29 GMT
There ya go ,,, Jan is wrong again!

Joel

>The General Dental Council (GDC) of the United Kingdom has declared
>its approval for dentists removing amalgam dental fillings on health
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>e-mail: amills@gdc-uk.org
>        
Keith P Walsh - 15 Feb 2005 08:38 GMT
Are you accepting that Ms Mills is right?

Keith P Walsh
Keith P Walsh - 20 Feb 2005 17:49 GMT
Latest up-date on amalgam removal advice

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Ms Mills,

If you go to:

http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/potentials.htm

- you will see an example copy of the form which Dr Jack Levenson of
the Brompton Dental Clinic would complete when advising his clients on
amalgam fillings.

The electrical potential of each amalgam would be measured in vivo
under Dr Levenson's supervision and entered in the appropriate
location on the dental chart.

When presented with this form and a request for the removal of the
client's fillings, Dr Roberts would identify the largest negative
potential of all the amalgams and remove the corresponding filling
first, followed by all others in the same quadrant of the mouth,
before then moving on to the largest negative potential in the
remaining quadrants, and so on.

As I understand it, the purpose of this procedure is to avoid causing
unnecessary neurological disturbances as a result of sudden imbalances
in the electrical potentials present in the mouth during amalgam
removal.

Now, I appreciate that your unqualified approval of Dr Robert's
prictices with regard to amalgam removal may have been expressed in
haste, and perhaps in some degree of ignorance of the procedures
involved.

However, I would expect that other dentists wishing to emulate Dr
Robert's success and prosperity might require some indication from an
official source as to whether or not it is important to adhere to his
procedures with regard to the order in which amalgam fillings are
removed.

And I would say that as a spokesperson for the Professional Standards
Department of the General Dental Council it would be inappropriate for
you to feign disinterest in the matter.

Do you not agree?

Keith P Walsh

PS, It has been demonstrated experimentally that metal amalgam dental
fillings generate electrical potentials with magnitudes of up to 350
millivolts.

See:

http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/dutch.htm
Joel M. Eichen - 20 Feb 2005 20:46 GMT
>Latest up-date on amalgam removal advice
>
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>the Brompton Dental Clinic would complete when advising his clients on
>amalgam fillings.

REPLY

Good advice. And let's see what Dr. Roeder says about it .......

Anthony Roeder Surrenders Dental License

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Anthony G. Roeder, D.D.S., of Paoli, Pennsylvania, has permanently
surrendered his dental license to settle charges of unprofessional
conduct. The settlement agreement indicates that the dental board was
concerned with his substandard treatment of two women. One case
concerned a woman who suffered severe pain after he (unnecessarily)
removed amalgam fillings in 11 of ther teeth. At his direction, the
woman also underwent electrodermal screening, which is a quack test.
In the other case, he injected homeopathic "remedies" into the
patient's gums. The consent agreement, shown below, was approved and
adopted by the state dental board on April 25, 2003.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
BEFORE THE STATE BOARD OF DENTISTRY
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
Bureau of Professional and Occupational Affairs
vs. Anthony G. Roeder, D.D.S., Respondent

Docket No. 1222~46~02
File No. 00-46~0346S

CONSENT AGREEMENT AND ORDER

The Commonwealth and Respondent stipulate as follows in settlement of
the above-captioned case.

1. This matter is before the State Board of Dentistry ("Board")
pursuant to The Dental Law, Act of May 1,1933, P.L. 216, No. 76, as
amended (“Act"), 63 P.S. § 120 et seq.

2. At all relevant and material times, Anthony G. Roeder
("Respondent") held a license to practice dentistry in the
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, License No. DS-016523-L.

3. The Respondent neither admits nor denies the following:

a. Respondent's license is current through March 31,2003, and may be
renewed thereafter upon the filing of the appropriate documentation
and payment of the necessary fees.

b. Respondent's last known address on file with the Board is 45 Darby
Road, Suite A, Paoli, PA 19301.

c. During the period of February 1993 through July 1998, Respondent
provided dental treatment to Ms. Jana Nestlerode (patient #1).

d. On or about March 28. 1998, Respondent held a scheduled appointment
with patient #1.

e. On or about April 1 and April 2, 1998, Respondent replaced all
eleven (11) amalgams for teeth #1, 2, 5, 12, 14, .15, 16, 17, 18, 30,
and 31 in the mouth of patient #1.

f. Subsequent to replacement of amalgams referenced in paragraph 3e,
patient #1 experienced pain in teeth which had amalgams replaced.

g. During the period of April and May 1998, patient #1 had multiple
appointments with Respondent, who told patient #1 to "give it time"
and “wait it out" regarding pain referenced in paragraph 3f.

h. During the period of April and May 1998, Respondent recommended
that patient #1 see a nutritionist.

i. On or about May 27,1998, Respondent provided Electro-Dermal
Screening (EDS) testing to patient #1.

j. During the period of December 1997 through February 1999,
Respondent provided dental treatment to Ms. Regina Collins (patient
#2).

k. During the period referenced in paragraph 3j, Respondent provided
EDS testing to patient #2.

l. On or about January 27. 1998, April 30, 1998) and May 28, 1998,
Respondent injected homeopathic remedies (Sanum remedies) between the
mucosal tissue and the bone of patient #2.

m. The actions of Respondent, described above, violated the Act at 63
P.S. § 123.1(a)(8) in that Respondent departed from, or failed to
conform to the standards of acceptable and prevailing dental practice.

4. The participants consent to issuance of the following Order in
settlement of this matter:

a. Respondent agrees to the VOLUNTARY SURRENDER of his license to
practice dentistry in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, License No.
DS-016523-L. Upon adoption of this Consent Agreement and Order,
Respondent permanently shall not represent himself as a board licensee
in any manner whatsoever. Within 10 days of adoption of this Consent
Agreement and Order, Respondent shall surrender his wall certificates,
registration certificates and wallet cards by mailing them or
delivering them in person to:

Keith E. Bashore, Prosecuting Attorney .
Department of State Legal Office
116 Pine Street
Harrisburg, PA 17101

b. Respondent knowingly permanently forfeits and relinquishes all
rights, title, and privilege to practice dentistry in any manner in
the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

c. The Commonwealth agrees to accept the Voluntary Surrender of
Respondent's license to practice dentistry in the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania in lieu of imposition of any other disciplinary action by
the Department of State in this matter.

5. Respondent acknowledges receipt of an Order to Show Cause in this
matter. Respondent knowingly and voluntarily waives the right to an
administrative hearing in this matter. and to the following rights
related to that hearing: to be represented by counsel at the hearing;
to present witnesses and testimony in defense or in mitigation of any
sanction that may be imposed for a violation; to cross-examine
witnesses and to challenge evidence presented by the Commonwealth; to
present legal arguments by means of a brief; and to take an appeal
from any final adverse decision.

6. This Consent Agreement is between the Commonwealth and Respondent
only. Except as otherwise noted, this Agreement is to have no legal
effect unless and until the Office of General Counsel approves the
contents as to form and legality and the Board issues the stipulated
order.

7. Should the Board not approve this Consent Agreement, presentation
to and consideration of this Consent Agreement and other documents and
matters by the Board shall not, prejudice the Board or any of its
members from further participation in the adjudication of this matter.
This paragraph is binding on the participants even if the Board does
not approve this Consent Agreement.

8. Respondent agrees, as a condition of entering into this Consent
Agreement, not to seek modification at a later date of the stipulated
Order adopting and implementing this Consent Agreement without first
obtaining the express written concurrence of the Prosecution Division.

9. This Agreement contains the whole agreement between the
participants. There are no other terms, obligations, covenants,
representations, statements or conditions, or otherwise, of any kind
whatsoever, concerning this Agreement.

10. Respondent verifies that the facts and statements set forth in
this Agreement are true and correct to the best of Respondent's
knowledge, information and belief. Respondent understands that
statements in this Agreement are made subject to the criminal
penalties of 18 Pa.C.S. § 4904 relating to unsworn falsification to
authorities.

Keith E. Bashore, Esquire
Prosecuting Attorney .
Department of State

Dated: 4/2/03

This page was posted on September 14, 2004.

>The electrical potential of each amalgam would be measured in vivo
>under Dr Levenson's supervision and entered in the appropriate
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
>http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/dutch.htm
Keith P Walsh - 24 Feb 2005 19:28 GMT
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:46:04 -0500, Joel M. Eichen >

>REPLY
>
>Good advice. And let's see what Dr. Roeder says about it .......

Perhaps he'd say:

"Shucks I wish I'd known that a Dutch study has demonstrated
experimentally that amalgam fillings generate electrical potentials
with magnitudes of up to 350 millivolts, and that in spite of the fact
that the resting potential of the human neurological synapse is only
70 millivolts it appears that experimental investigations to determine
whether or not amalgam potentials are able to dissipate electrical
energy through the nerves in people's heads have never been carried
out.

I wish I'd known that in order to understand the electrical behavior
of an electrically conductive material when it is subjected to an
electromagnetic field it is necessary to know its electrical
conductivity, magnetic susceptibility and magnetic permeability; and
that in spite of the fact that amalgam fillings are placed in
children's teeth it appears that measurements to determine these
properties for a typical dental amalgam have never ever been carried
out.

And I wish I'd known that in spite of the fact that everyone apears to
accept that all materials generate a thermoelectric electromotive
force it appears that experimental studies to measure the
thermoelectric power of a typical dental amalgam have also never been
carried out.

If only I'd presented these facts at the hearing those Beureau of
Professional and Occupational Affairs lawyers would've backed off so
fast they'd still be suffering from the whiplash now."

Enquiries concerning the electrical behavior of dentral amalgams can
be found at:

http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/intro.htm

Keith P Walsh

>Anthony Roeder Surrenders Dental License
>
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>>
>>http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/dutch.htm
carabelli - 25 Feb 2005 04:20 GMT
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:46:04 -0500, Joel M. Eichen >
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> experimentally that amalgam fillings generate electrical potentials
> with magnitudes of up to 350 millivolts............

For once you totally have me over a barrel.  I just don't know what to
say...........

except, "Shucks I wish I had started reading Zippy when High Times was the
only publication carrying it."

Just a thought.

carabeli....Hunter S. Thompson - RIP
W_B - 21 Feb 2005 15:59 GMT
>350
>millivolts.

Still beating that dead horse ?
--

W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Jan - 22 Feb 2005 02:05 GMT
> >350
> >millivolts.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

Most of the dentists here are dead to the facts, known as the

*I-don't-want-to-be-informed-attitude*

Then YOU W_B speak desrespectfully of dead bodies in the Salt Lake City
landfill.

No wonder you don't want you posts archived.

Jan
Joel M. Eichen - 22 Feb 2005 12:54 GMT
>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:49:59 +0000 (UTC), Keith P Walsh
><keith.p.walsh@btinternet.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> Still beating that dead horse ?

She is continuing to continue i nthe hopes of helping anyone who
cannot break dance.

>> --
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Jan
Keith P Walsh - 26 Feb 2005 19:15 GMT
>>350
>>millivolts.
>
>Still beating that dead horse ?

'You still kidding yourself that the Dutch study which reported
measuring amalgam potentials with magnitudes of up to 350 millivolts
has been refuted?

It hasn't.

All that happened was a small bunch of people who didn't like the
sound of this report made up some excuses for ignoring its findings.

And that is being unscientific.

Ann Mills of the UK's General Dental Dental Council appears to believe
that dentists who remove amalgam fillings on the grounds that
patients' health will benefit as a result are doing nothing wrong.

Don't you agree with her?

Keith P Walsh

PS, the report of the Dutch study whose findings have not been
scientifically refuted can be found at:

http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/dutch.htm
W_B - 26 Feb 2005 21:54 GMT
>>>350
>>>millivolts.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>'You still kidding yourself that the Dutch study which reported
>measuring amalgam potentials with magnitudes of up to 350 millivolts

Still 350 mV

--
W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
carabelli - 20 Feb 2005 23:46 GMT
> The General Dental Council (GDC) of the United Kingdom has declared
> its approval for dentists removing amalgam dental fillings on health
> grounds............

That's a shame,  I think you should be able to go to a regular office
instead of somewhere outside.

carabelli
Jan - 21 Feb 2005 01:18 GMT
> > The General Dental Council (GDC) of the United Kingdom has declared
its approval for dentists removing amalgam dental fillings on health
grounds............

> That's a shame,
>
> carabelli

Poor Dan likes to see people suffer.

That's not only a same, it's a sin.

Jan
Rich.@. - 21 Feb 2005 01:23 GMT
>Poor Dan likes to see people suffer.

>>>I wish for you a good dose of mercury poisoning, peripheral neuropathy and
>>>migraine headaches.

>From: JDrew63929 (jdrew63929@aol.com)
>Date: 2001-05-28 12:14:24 PST


>Mark.................
>
>Drop dead.


>Your words come back to bite you.
>
>Jan

Poor Jan.

Aloha,

Rich
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Feb 2005 14:07 GMT
>> > The General Dental Council (GDC) of the United Kingdom has declared
>its approval for dentists removing amalgam dental fillings on health
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Poor Dan likes to see people suffer.

.....needless untold suffering ... and inability to break dance ......
 
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