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shawnews - 12 Feb 2005 19:45 GMT
Hi,

I have several old fillings (approx 8 years old) that have metallic color,
they don't bother me and look ok.

My dentist says they should be replaced with white ones and it's quite
expensive.

Does anybody have any idea if this has to be done or should I wait till they
start bothering me?

Thank you

Vadim
Steven Bornfeld - 12 Feb 2005 20:04 GMT
> Hi,
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> Vadim

    Why does the dentist say they need replacing?
    If you are going to this dentist for the first time and he/she wishes
to replace all or most of your fillings, I would definitely go for a
second opinion.

Steve
shawnews - 12 Feb 2005 22:13 GMT
Thank you for the reply.

No, I've been going to this dentist for some time.
He didn't give me much explanation on why they should be replaced, I was
looking for somebody's feedback on
general guidelines on fillings replacement (like old metallic fillings might
contain mercury or fillings must be replaced at certain periods of time,
etc..)

>> Hi,
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> Steve
Bill - 13 Feb 2005 09:40 GMT
> Thank you for the reply.
>
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> contain mercury or fillings must be replaced at certain periods of time,
> etc..)

A filling needs replacement when it is cracked, broken, or leaking due
to loss of sealing ability at the margins. It also would need
replacement when there is decay under or adjacent to the filling.

Otherwise, some metallic fillings can last for many years, or even
decades. It might help to ask your dentist why several fillings need
replacement at the same time. And as Dr. Bornfeld has advised, if you
have any doubts, you can seek a second opinion as well.

Best regards,
dentaldoc

> >> Hi,
> >>
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> > Steve
clintonz@prodigy.net - 13 Feb 2005 19:37 GMT
> > Thank you for the reply.
> >
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> to loss of sealing ability at the margins. It also would need
> replacement when there is decay under or adjacent to the filling.

Of course that is all a filling could ever do is crack. It could
never leak excessive amounts of Hg or corrode or chemically interact
with the immune system in any way, even though all other implants do.
Amalgam is special. Thats the false science of alloys the
scientifically clueless dentists on this list are fond of trotting out.
They think it's like that "magic sand" product which
came out years ago and never got wet. Believe me, given enough
time anything can get wet, whether it has the ADA stamp on it
or not.

They are from the US. Try asking a dentist from Europe (or Austrialia,
or Japan, or Canada). In fact, if amalgam was so great they'd be using
it in knee implants but then they would actually
have to test it in humans.

> Otherwise, some metallic fillings can last for many years, or even
> decades.

Some? See doc, thats why I ask, and no one ever answers what
the largest Hg leakage from a filling in the US is right now.
Kinda hard to answer when you haven't done any studies with
enough statistically power to answer that question, ain't it.

What did Churchill say? lies, dammed lies, and statistics...

By the way, could you point this poster to all the studies
done by amalgam manufacturers where amalgam has been tested
in real life biological systems for 10-20 years and all
exposure from that amalgam has been meticulously measured.
Nah, didn't think so.

It might help to ask your dentist why several fillings need
> replacement at the same time. And as advised, if you
> have any doubts, you can seek a second opinion as well.

You'll probably find a clueless dentist who will give
you regurgiated ADA baloney. Ask for a scientific reference
or ask if x-rays are harmful. They'll try to tell you you get
more in an airplane or at the beach and imply you always get more
elemental methyl exposure from fish. The first is an egregious
lie. So is the second. I'd sue any dentist who told you that for fraud.
Dentists must think the public is really stupid and gulliable, and they
are right. Indeed, it seems like the inmates are running the asylum

Bottom line:

It's a complicated subject and replacing some fillings can carry
risk. Suppose you prematurely lose the tooth and need a root canal?
Suppose you become sensitive to the composites or
the tooth cracks and/or becomes infected. Also, some dentists don't
follow good procedure in terms of miminizing Hg exposure.

In the end you will have to weigh whether eleminating the
"real" Hg exposure you are getting from amalgam (which you will find
close to impossible to determine) is worth the risks/cost of replacing
them. If it was a matter of snapping your fingers and replacing amalgam
with some other material with no trauma to the teeth (assuming that
material is proven safe and reliable) then I'd say yeah, do it. But it
is not so simple.
Joel M. Eichen - 13 Feb 2005 21:32 GMT
>Of course that is all a filling could ever do is crack. It could
>never leak excessive amounts of Hg or corrode or chemically interact
>with the immune system in any way, even though all other implants do.

Right you are, it cannot happen.

Joel
LadyLollipop - 13 Feb 2005 23:31 GMT
>> > Thank you for the reply.
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> material is proven safe and reliable) then I'd say yeah, do it. But it
> is not so simple.

Best to find a mercury free dentist and ask the correct questions, just
being mercury-free isn't good enough, as we have one here who lies to go
along with his buddies.

Questions to ask:

   Dental Cleanup

   (This section on dentistry was contributed by Frank Jerome, DDS.)

   Dr.  Jerome: The philosophy of dental treatment taught in America is
   that teeth are to be saved by whatever means available, using the
   strongest, most long lasting materials.  Long-term toxic effects are
   of little concern.  The attitude of the majority of dentists is:
   whatever the American Dental Association (ADA) says is OK, they will do.

   A more reasonable philosophy is that there is no tooth worth saving if
   it damages vour immune system.  Use this as your guideline.

   The reason dentists do not see toxic results is that they do not look
   or ask.  If a patient has three mercury amalgam fillings placed in the
   mouth and a week later has a kidney problem, will she call the
   dentist - or the doctor?  Will they ever tell the dentist about the
   kidney problem or tell the doctor about the three fillings?
   A connection will never be made.

   It is common for patients who have had their metal fillings removed to
   have various symptoms go away but, again, they do not tell the dentist.
   The patient has to be asked!  Once the patient begins to feel well they
   take it for granted, and don't make the connection, either.
   If everybody's results were instantaneous, there would be no
controversy.

   Find an alternative dentist.  They have been leading the movement to
   ban mercury from dental supplies.  Not only mercury, but all metal
   needs to be banned.  If your dentist will not follow the necessary
   procedures, then you must find one that will.  The questions to ask
   when you phone a new dental office are:

   1.  Do you place mercury fillings?  (The correct answer is NO. If they
       do, they probably don't have enough experience in the use of
non-metal
       composites.)

   2.  Do you do root canals?  (The correct answer is NO. If they do,
       they do not understand good alternative dentistry.)

   3.  Do you remove amalgam tattoos?  (The correct answer is YES.
       Tattoos are pieces of mercury left in the gum tissue.)

   4.  Do you treat cavitations?  (The correct answer is YES. By cleaning
       them.) The complete name of cavitations is alveolar cavitational
       osteopathosis.  They are holes (cavities) left in the jawbone by an
       incompletely extracted tooth.  A properly cleaned socket which is
left
       after an extraction will heal and fill with bone.  Dentists
       routinely do NOT clean the socket of tissue remnants or infected
bone.
       A dry socket (really an infected socket) is a common result.  These
       sockets never fully heal.  Thirty years after an extraction, a
       cavitation will still be there.  It is a form of osteomyelitis,
which
       means bone infection.

   Ninety percent or more of dental offices will not be able to answer
   ANY of the above questions correctly.  If you allow the work to be
   done by a dentist who does not understand the importance of the
   above list, you could end up with new problems.  Find the right
   dentist first even if you must travel hundreds of miles.  There are
   6,000 to 10,000 dentists who should be able to help.  Some can do
   part of the work and refer you to a specialist for the rest.
   Five hundred to one thousand of these dentists can do it all.

   Normal treatment cost is about $1,000 for replacement of 6 to 8 metal
   fillings including the examination and X-rays.  For people with a
   metal filling in every tooth, or for the extraction of all teeth
   (plus dentures), it may be up to $3,000 (or more in some places).

   Remember, the simpler the treatment, the better.  If the dentist says
   that he or she can change your metal fillings to plastic but it would
   be better to crown them, say "NO!"

   Guidelines For A Healthy Mouth

      If you have             What to do
      ---------------         --------------
      Metal fillings          change to plastic fillings
      Inlays and onlays       change to plastic fillings
      Crowns (all types)      change to plastic crowns
      Bridges                 change to plastic crowns, partials
      Metal partials          change to plastic partials (Flexite(TM))
      Pink dentures           change to clear plastic
      Porcelain denture teeth change to plastic denture teeth
      Badly damaged teeth     become extractions
      Root canals             become extractions
      Braces and implants     avoid
      Cavitations             need to be surgically cleaned
      Temporary crowns        use plastic
      Temporary fillings      use Duralon(TM)

          Figure 59. Dental replacements.

   ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
   +++The guidelines can be summarized as:
   +++ 1. Remove all metal from the mouth.
   +++ 2. Remove all infected teeth and clean cavitations.
   ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

   Dr.  Clark: Removing all metal means removing all root canals,
   metal fillings and crowns.  Take out all bridge work or partials
   made of metal and never put them back in.  But you may feel quite
   attached to the gold, so ask the dentist to give you everything she or
   he removes.  Look at the underside.  You will be glad you switched.

   The top surfaces of tooth fillings are kept glossy by brushing (you
   swallow some of what is removed).  Underneath is tarnish and foulness.
   Ask to see your crowns when they are removed.

          Figure 60. Tops and bottoms of some metal crowns.

   The stench of the infection under some teeth may be overwhelming as
   they are pulled.  Bad breath in the morning is due to such hidden
   tooth infections, not a deficiency of mouthwash!

   All metal must come out, no matter how glossy it looks on the surface.
   Metal does not belong in your body.  It is an unnatural chemical.
   Do this as soon as you have found a dentist able to do it.  Find a
   dentist with experience and knowledge about this subject.  It is more
   than replacing acknowledged culprits like mercury-amalgam fillings.
   This is metal-free dentistry.  Only metal-free plastic should be put
   back in vour mouth.

   Dr.  Jerome: If your dentist tells you that mercury and other metals
   will not cause any problems, you will not be able to change his or her
   mind.  Seek treatment elsewhere!

   Your dentist should do a complete X-ray examination of your mouth.
   Ask for the panoramic X-ray rather than the usual series of 14 to 16
   small X-rays (called full mouth series).  The panoramic X-ray shows
   the whole mouth including the jaws and the sinuses.  This lets the
   dentist see impacted teeth, root fragments, bits of mercury buried
   in the bone and deep infections.  Cavitations are visible in a
   panoramic X-ray that may not be seen in a full mouth series.

   The cost of removing metals should be viewed in the proper light.  It
   took years or decades to get into your present condition.  When you do
   a lot of dental repair in a short time, it can seem to be costly.
   Unfortunately, many people are in a tight financial position because
   of the cost of years of ineffective treatment, trying to get well.

   Your dentist may recommend crowning teeth to "protect" or strengthen
   them.  Unfortunately, the very concept of crowning teeth is flawed.
   First, the enamel is removed from a tooth to prepare for the crown.
   This is permanent and serious damage!  Many teeth, up to 20%, may die
   after being crowned and will need to be extracted.  For this reason,
   you should only get REPLACEMENT crowns and NO NEW crowns.  Your metal
   crowns can be changed to plastic.  (Remember, no metal must be left
   under the crown.)

   If you have many crowns, you should have them all removed as quickly as
   possible.  But you should not spend more than two hours in the dentist's
   chair at any one time.  That is too much stress for your body.

   Dr.  Clark: Don't accept intravenous (IV) treatments during amalgam
   removal.  Both IV bags and the supplements used in them are polluted
   with propyl alcohol, benzene, and wood alcohol.

   Dr.  Jerome: It is quite all right to have temporary crowns placed on
   all teeth that need them in the first visit.  You may then go back and
   complete treatment over the next 6 to 12 months.  It is common to find
   a crowned tooth to be very weak and not worth replacing the crown,
   particularly if you are already having a partial made and could
   include this tooth in it.

   Dr.  Clark: We are accustomed to thinking that plastic is metal-free.
   This is wrong. The original dental plastic, methyl methacrylate was
   metal-free.  But modern plastic contains metal.  The metal is ground
   up very finely and added to the plastic in order to make it harder,
   give it sheen, color, etc.

   Dr.  Jerome: Dentists are not commonly given information on these
   metals used in plastics.  The information that comes with dental
   supplies does not list them either.  Most dentists never look at a
   dental materials book after they graduate.  The ADA, however, has a
   library full of such information.
      (Call the American Dental Association at (800) 621-8099
       (Illinois (800) 572-8309, Alaska or Hawaii (800) 621-3291).
       Members can ask for the Bureau of Library Services,
       non-members ask for Public Information.)

   Dr.  Clark: There are many lanthanide (Rare Earth) metals used in
   dental plastic.  Their effects on the body from dentalware
   have NOT been studied.  Yet their cancer-promoting ability is known in
   many cases.
      (Thulium and ytterbium have been studied for their tumor-seeking
       ability.  See page 321 in the book METAL IONS In BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS,
       Vol.  10, Carcinogenicity and Metal lons.  Editor Helmut Sigel
1980.)
   Only metal-free plastic is safe.

   Dr.  Jerome: These are the acceptable plastics; they can be procured
   at any dental lab.

   - Plastic for dentures: Methyl Methacrylate.  Available in clear and
     pink.  Do not use pink.
      (The pink color is from mercury or cadmium which is added to the
plastic.)

   - Plastic for partial dentures: Flexite(TM)._ Available in clear and
pink.
     Do not use pink.

   - Plastic for fillings: Composite Materials.  This is the material
     that has been used in front teeth for 30 years.  It has been used in
     back teeth for 10 years.  There are many brands and there are new ones
     being marketed constantly.  The new ones are very much superior to
     those used 10 years ago and they will continue to improve.  They do,
     however, contain enough barium or zirconium to make them visible on
     X-rays.  There are no alternatives available without these metals.

   Dr.  Clark: Composites with barium are not good, but I haven't seen
   enough barium toxicity from fillings at this time to merit advising
   extraction instead.  Hopefully, a barium-free variety will become
   available soon to remove this health risk.

   Dr.  Jerome: Many people (and dentists too) believe that porcelain is
   a good substitute for plastic.  Porcelain is aluminum oxide with other
   metals added to get different colors (shades).  The metal DOES come
   out of the porcelain!  It has many technical drawbacks as well.
   Porcelain is not recommended.  Sometimes the white composite fillings
   are called porcelain fillings but they are not.  They also require
   more tooth structure to be removed.

   If you have a large bridge, it cannot be replaced with a plastic
   bridge because it isn't strong enough.  A large bridge must be
   replaced with a removable partial (Flexite(TM)).

   The methods used to remove metals and infections are technical and
   complicated.  See dental information in Sources.

   Dr.  Clark: I'd like to thank Dr.  Jerome for his contributions to
   this section, and his pioneering work in metal-free dentistry.  I hope
   more dentists acquire his techniques.

   Horrors Of Metal Dentistry

   Why are highly toxic metals put in materials for our mouths?  Because
   not everyone agrees on what is toxic at what level.  Just decades ago
   lead was commonly found in paint, and until recently in gasoline.
   Lead was not less toxic then, we were just less informed!  The
   government sets standards of toxicity, but those "standards" change as
   more research is done (and more people speak out).  You can do better
   than the government by dropping your standard for toxic metals to
   zero!  Simply remove them.

   The debate still rages over mercury amalgam fillings.  No one disputes
   the extreme toxicity of mercury compounds and mercury vapor.  The ADA
   feels that mercury amalgam fillings are safe because they do not
   vaporize or form toxic compounds to a significant degree.  Opponents
   cite scientific studies that implicate mercury amalgams as disease
   causing.  Many dentists advocate mercury amalgam fillings simply
   because they are accepted by the ADA, which they believe protects
   them from malpractice litigation.  Why risk your health and life on
   their opinions?  Remember everything corrodes and everything seeps, so
   amalgams must too.

   Cadmium is used to make the pink color in dentures!  Cadmium is five
   times as toxic as lead, and is strongly linked to high blood pressure.

   Occasionally, thallium and germanium are found together in mercury
   amalgam tooth fillings.  Thallium causes leg pain, leg weakness, and
   paraplegia.  If you are in a wheelchair without a very reliable
   diagnosis, have all the metal removed from vour mouth.  Ask the
   dentist to give you the grindings.  Try to have them analyzed for
   thallium using the most sensitive methods available, possibly at a
   research institute or university.

   I was astonished to find thallium in mercury amalgams!  It couldn't be
   put there intentionally, look how toxic it is:

      TEJ500                                    HR: 3
      THALLIUM COMPOUNDS

      Thallium and its compounds are on the Community Right To Know List.

      THR: Extremely toxic.  The lethal dose for a man by ingestion is
      0.5-1.0 gram.  Effects are cumulative and with continuous exposure
      toxicity occurs at much lower levels.  Major effects are on the
      nervous system, skin and cardiovascular tract.  The peripheral
      nervous system can be severely affected with dying-back of the
longest
      sensory and motor fibers.  Reproductive organs and the fetus are
      highly susceptible.  Acute poisoning has followed the ingestion of
      toxic quantities of a thallium-bearing depilatory and accidental or
      suicidal ingestion of rat poison.  Acute poisoning results in
      swelling of the feet and legs, arthralgia, vomiting, insomnia,
      hyperesthesia and paresthesia [numbness] of the hands and feet,
mental
      confusion, polyneuritis with severe pains in the legs and loins,
      partial paralysis of the legs with reaction of degeneration,
      angina-like pains, nephritis, wasting and weakness, and
      lymphocytosis and eosinophilia.  About the 18th day, complete loss of
      the hair on the body and head may occur.  Fatal poisoning has been
      known to occur.  Recovery requires months and may be incomplete.
      Industrial poisoning is reported to have caused discoloration of the
      hair (which later falls out), joint pain, loss of appetite, fatigue,
      severe pain in the calves of the legs, albuminuria, eosinophilia,
      lymphocytosis and optic neuritis followed by atrophy.
      Cases of industrial poisoning are rare, however.  Thallium
      is an experimental teratogen [used to induce birth defects for
      study].  When heated to decomposition they [sic] emit highly toxic
      fumes of Tl [thallium].  See also THALLIUM and specific compounds.
      (Dangerous Properties of Industrial Materials, 7th ed.  by N. Irving
       Sax and Richard J. Lewis Sr., Van NOSTRAND, Reinhold N.Y. 1989.)

          Figure 61. Thallium excerpt.

   Thallium pollution frightens me more than lead, cadmium and mercury
   combined, because it is completely unsuspected.  Its last major use,
   rat poison, was banned in the 1970s.  Every wheelchair patient
   I tested was positive for thallium!  One current use for thallium is
   in Arctic/Antarctic thermostats.  When added to mercury the mercury
   will stay liquid at lower temperatures.  Are mercury suppliers then
   providing the dental industry with tainted amalgarn?

   The cancer causing or carcinogenic action of metals has been studied
   for a long time, although it doesn't get attention by our regulatory
   agencies.  A scientific book on this subject was published in 1980.
      (The title is Carcinogenicity and Metal lons.  It is volume 10 of a
       series called Metal lons in Biological Systems, edited by Helmut
       Sigel.  A university chemistry library should have this book.  It
has
       a fascinating chapter on the leukemias by two scientists from the
       Academy of Sciences of the USSR, E. L. Andronikashvili and L.
       Mosulishvili.  Their brilliant work and discussion was largely
       responsible for my pursuit of the whole subiect of cancer.)
   One table from this book is shown on page 431.  We can see that
   chromium and nickel compounds are the most carcinogenic metals.
   Nickel is used in gold crowns, braces, and children's crowns!

   Note that the form of the metal is very important.  For instance
   chromium is an essential element of glucose tolerance factor,
   but most of its other compounds are extremely toxic.  In general,
   xenobiotic compounds (foreign) are to be avoided!  Metal doesn't
   belong in our foods or in our bodies.

   Dental Rewards

   After your mouth is metal and infection-free, notice whether your
   sinus condition, ear-ringing, enlarged neck glands, headache, enlarged
   spleen, bloated condition, knee pain, foot pain, hip pain, dizziness,
   aching bones and joints improve.  Keep a small notebook to write down
   these improvements.  It will show you which symptoms came originally
   from your teeth.  Symptoms often come back!  So go back to your
   dentist, to search for a hidden infection under one or more of your
   teeth, or where your teeth once were!  That infection can be the
   cause of tinnitus, TMJ, arthritis, neck pain, loss of balance, and
   heart attacks!

          Figure 62. More dental metal.

   Dentures can be beautiful.  Of course, plastic isn't natural, but it
   is the best compromise that can be made to restore your mouth.
   At least it isn't positively charged like metals; it can't set up an
   electric current nor a magnetic field in your mouth, all of which may
   be harmful.

          Figure 63. Beautiful plastic mouth.

   Do not be swayed by arguments that plastic is not as strong as
   metal.  You see dentures everywhere and they seem strong enough to eat
   with.  You will be told that "noble" metals like gold and platinum
   and silver are OK, that they are "inert" and do not corrode or seep.
   Nothing could be more untrue.  You may be keeping them glossy by the
   constant polishing action of your toothpaste.  But if you look at the
   underside, the view is frightful.  Everything tarnishes and everything
   seeps.  You wouldn't expect even a gold or silver coin that was
   dropped in a fountain 50 years ago to be intact.  As metal corrodes
   your body absorbs it!

   In breast cancer, especially, you find that metals from dentalware
   have dissolved and accumulated in the breast.  They will leave the
   breast if you clear them out of your mouth (and diet, body, home).
   The cysts shrink and are simply gone.  No need to do surgery!

   http://talkinternational.com/

   Click on mercury free & biological dentists

   LL
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Feb 2005 00:52 GMT
>> material is proven safe and reliable) then I'd say yeah, do it. But it
>> is not so simple.
>
>Best to find a mercury free dentist and ask the correct questions, just
>being mercury-free isn't good enough, as we have one here who lies to go
>along with his buddies.

Mercury-free advertisers are generally charlatans.

There are many dentists who use the best material possible, which in
many cases is composite, Cerec, or inlay.

Joel M. Eichen DDS

>Questions to ask:
>
>    Dental Cleanup
>
>    (This section on dentistry was contributed by Frank Jerome, DDS.)

Hah!

Jerome again?

>    Dr.  Jerome: The philosophy of dental treatment taught in America is
>    that teeth are to be saved by whatever means available, using the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>    A more reasonable philosophy is that there is no tooth worth saving if
>    it damages vour immune system.  Use this as your guideline.
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Feb 2005 00:52 GMT
> The reason dentists do not see toxic results is that they do not look
>    or ask.  If a patient has three mercury amalgam fillings placed in the
>    mouth and a week later has a kidney problem,

That is a misinformed patient! There are zero reports of
amalgam/kidney interaction, excewpt in Jan Drew's mind!

Joel
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Feb 2005 00:53 GMT
> Find an alternative dentist.

Alt.money.grubbing.scarum,plenty.dentist.
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Feb 2005 00:53 GMT
> Not only mercury, but all metal
>    needs to be banned.  

This is why Jan Drew's dentures are plastic!

Joel
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Feb 2005 00:54 GMT
>   2.  Do you do root canals?  (The correct answer is NO. I

MISINFORMED b.s.!
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Feb 2005 00:54 GMT
> Do you treat cavitations?  (The correct answer is YES. By cleaning
>        them.) The complete name of cavitations is alveolar cavitational
>        osteopathosis.  They are holes (cavities) left in the jawbone by an
>        incompletely extracted tooth.  A properly cleaned socket which

Yo Lolly.

You be wrong sistah.
StovePipe - 20 Feb 2005 04:11 GMT
> A filling needs replacement when it is cracked, broken, or leaking due
> to loss of sealing ability at the margins. It also would need
> replacement when there is decay under or adjacent to the filling.

I never understood what is meant by a leaking filling...? Is this to
mean a filling sensitive to sweets or cold?
Thanks
SP
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Not a real Addy, yet

Dr. Steve - 20 Feb 2005 17:29 GMT
>> A filling needs replacement when it is cracked, broken, or leaking due
>> to loss of sealing ability at the margins. It also would need
>> replacement when there is decay under or adjacent to the filling.
>
>I never understood what is meant by a leaking filling...?

That is a filling which no longer seals the hole in the tooth.
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
Joel M. Eichen - 20 Feb 2005 17:40 GMT
>>I never understood what is meant by a leaking filling...?
>
>That is a filling which no longer seals the hole in the tooth.

Yup, like a leaking gas tank ........

>..
>Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
>Troy, Michigan, USA
Dr. Steve - 20 Feb 2005 18:21 GMT
>>>I never understood what is meant by a leaking filling...?
>>
>>That is a filling which no longer seals the hole in the tooth.
>
>Yup, like a leaking gas tank ........

More like a leaking roof.
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
Joel M. Eichen - 20 Feb 2005 20:44 GMT
>>>>I never understood what is meant by a leaking filling...?
>>>
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>
>More like a leaking roof.

YUP, and we gots to apply some hot tar before the next storm!

>..
>Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
>Troy, Michigan, USA
>
>I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
StovePipe - 21 Feb 2005 16:02 GMT
> >>>I never understood what is meant by a leaking filling...?
> >>
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>
> I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.

OK, thanks
SP
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Not a real Addy, yet

W_B - 21 Feb 2005 15:58 GMT
>>>I never understood what is meant by a leaking filling...?
>>
>>That is a filling which no longer seals the hole in the tooth.
>
>Yup, like a leaking gas tank ........

Who has a match ?
--

W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
LadyLollipop - 13 Feb 2005 23:05 GMT
> Thank you for the reply.

The one and only HONEST reply you will receive here from dentists, is Steve
Bornfeld, the rest are in complete denial and are also liars.

LL

> No, I've been going to this dentist for some time.
> He didn't give me much explanation on why they should be replaced, I was
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>>
>> Steve
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Feb 2005 00:55 GMT
>> Thank you for the reply.
>
>The one and only HONEST reply you will receive here from dentists, is Steve
>Bornfeld, the rest are in complete denial and are also liars.
>
>LL

This is funny, but we like the B'ster just fine as do you.
LadyLollipop - 13 Feb 2005 23:02 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Vadim

Depends on your health. I sure wouldn't wait until they start bothering you,
OTOH it's best to have compsoites when any dental work is needed

Mercury in the mouth lets off vapors going to every organ in the body,
mercury is also ruining the environment.

Mercury is being eliminated in ALL forms.

Here's my message, as I suffered from both mercury poisoning and peripheral
neuropathy caused by amalgams.

Hope it helps.

Please not several webistes have been taken down becuase the AMA and ADA
doesn't want people to question their lies.

*IF* you have an unanswered health problem,,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH!

NOT by a mainstream dentist, but an Alt. dentist who KNOWS the dangers of
metali n the mouth and root canals, and follows correct protocol.

I did, it saved my life

. Mercury is Poisonous. There is NO safe form of Mercury in living tissue.
The
mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the
other
sources together.

U151 identifies mercury as a toxic waste.Mercury is also recovered from
discarded products and wastes such aschlor-alkali wastes, dental amalgams,
fluorescent light tubes, electronicdevices, and others.

The mercury is vaporized in a retort and collected bycondensation. Condensed
mercury is then distilled to remove impurities.*

The Environmental Protection Agency is working to reduce the amount of
mercury
in the environment

http://www.ehs.ucsf.edu/Manuals/CSM/Csm_Chapter9.htm

17. DENTAL AMALGAM Dental amalgams are mixtures of mercury with silver tin
alloy. Cal-EPAregulates them as ***chemical waste.*** Submit Chemical Waste
Removal Form for its disposal.

========

Richard H Jacobson will most likely appear with his lies and cyberstalking,
as is he pattern with any and all who have regained their health with
alternative medicine and dentistry.

He is a known liar and badger, who has nuked his posts.

Ignore him.

LL
Michael Cundiff - 16 Feb 2005 02:45 GMT
Hi, You answered your own question. It doesnt bother you. Wait until it's
really needed. Best of Luck..MC
> Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Vadim
 
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