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>For people that do not have...
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Roy Brown - 01 Feb 2005 04:11 GMT
I love it when you do that.

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troyshellhammer@gmail.com - 01 Feb 2005 14:25 GMT
Exscuse me, but this is a possible solution for individuals who cannot
recieve affordable dental insurance. It is a discount plan offered by
insurance companies Celtic, GE, and Aetna. The dentists in the network
honor an agreeded upon discount off of their normal fees for
pre-specified services (i.e. cleanings, fillings, etc.) There is no
maximum of benefits. Vaughn if you are not interested in learning more
about the plan that is fine, but in the future please try not to
loutishly condem a product that you obviously have no information
about.
Troy Shellhammer
Steven Bornfeld - 01 Feb 2005 14:54 GMT
> Exscuse me, but this is a possible solution for individuals who cannot
> recieve affordable dental insurance. It is a discount plan offered by
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> Troy Shellhammer
Mr. Shellhammer (if that IS your real name)...
We all know about these plans. Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
There is no MAXIMUM of benefits because the INSURANCE PLAN grants NO
BENEFITS--right?
Early in my career, I participated in such a "plan". IMO, this is not
insurance at all. This is obscured because these plans are often
administered by insurance companies.
I found quickly that it was not possible to turn a profit playing it
straight with these plans, so I dropped my participation. Others here
have found that some dentists use the plan as a pretext to get patients
into the office and aggressively sell cosmetic and other services not
stipulated in the contracted fee schedule.
Of course, you know all of this too.
BTW, calling Vaughn a "lout" is really barking up the wrong tree.
Steve
W_B - 01 Feb 2005 15:34 GMT
>Of course, you know all of this too.
> BTW, calling Vaughn a "lout" is really barking up the wrong tree.
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>Steve
Yes, he prefers to be called a cad.
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W_B - 01 Feb 2005 15:34 GMT
> Vaughn if you are not interested in learning more
>about the plan that is fine, but in the future please try not to
>loutishly condem a product that you obviously have no information
>about.
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>Troy Shellhammer
The 'plan' is a rip off.
Vaughn is a valued member of SMD, you are not.
Spammers are not welcomed here.
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Tony Bad - 01 Feb 2005 16:01 GMT
> Exscuse me, but this is a possible solution for individuals who cannot
> recieve affordable dental insurance. It is a discount plan offered by
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> Troy Shellhammer
...and unless they are really honest providers, will usually tack on some
add on, or tell you that you need a "non-covered" procedure to make up for
that big "discount" you are getting.
Phooey.
T
Vaughn Simon - 01 Feb 2005 17:18 GMT
> Exscuse me, but this is a possible solution for individuals who cannot
> recieve affordable dental insurance. It is a discount plan offered by
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> about the plan that is fine, but in the future please try not to
> loutishly
Dear spammer; Before you call me a "lout" suppose you answer my
questions? Start with this one: What percentage of the plan premium does
the dentist receive? After that one, please move on the the one about why
anybody would do business with a spammer, a person who ignores normal rules
of social behavior.
>condem a product that you obviously have no information
> about.
How did that become obvious? Do you suppose that you are the first
person here pushing such dental plans? Have you tried a Google search of
this group on that subject? FYI my Bachelor's degree is in Business, I have
taken the trouble to analyze several of these plans and find them to be
without exception a ripoff. If you were not a spammer, I would be
interested in discussing why your's are different.
Vaughn
> Troy Shellhammer
Steven Fawks - 01 Feb 2005 18:03 GMT
I'm sure you don't intend on holding your breath for a response!
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Fawks
> How did that become obvious? Do you suppose that you are the first
> person here pushing such dental plans? Have you tried a Google search of
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> Vaughn
Vaughn - 03 Feb 2005 00:22 GMT
> I'm sure you don't intend on holding your breath for a response!
I'll bet he is off collecting the data right now. He will return any
moment.
Vaughn
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Roy Brown - 02 Feb 2005 04:21 GMT
And here is a better possible solution for those with affordability issues. I
stumbled across this US service in a Canadian dental journal of all places. They
provide free dentistry. Some of the regulars here might want to bookmark the
link:
http://www.nfdh.org/DDS.html
Hint: DDS = Donated Dental Services

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W_B - 01 Feb 2005 15:11 GMT
>I love it when you do that.
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> For people that do not have dental insurance through work and it is too
> expensive individually, a Discount Dental Plan is an increasingly
> popular program.
>There are over thirty different products that I have
> been offering
OH! Now I understand. You are a spammer.
> all created by major insurance carriers
What are the names of these "major insurance carriers"? Would they approve
of your spamming?
> as a more
> affordable way to save money on dental, orthodontic, and oral surgeon
> fees. They usually save 10% - 60%
Bullshit! My PPO dentistry plan does not even do that. (Full disclosure:
It is actually my ex- PPO dental plan. I fired it because it did not do "that".
>off of the bottom line
Again I say "Bullshit".
>and unlike
> dental insurance, there is no maximum benefit cap. Different programs
> can be accessed and compared over the Internet without a commitment.
> The network of dentists is a wide as an insurance plan due to the large
> number of programs available.
> To learn more please visit
I don't wanna "visit". Just talk to us here on smd. How much of the
premium money does the dentist get? How much do you get?
> For those insurance agents who are not offering dental insurance, you
> may become a provider of Discount Dental Plans.
Oh Boy, MLM.
>The service is
> extremely easy to begin and maintain. You will receive a free website
> that will effectively handle all of your clients questions,
> maintenance, paperwork, and billing. Essentially, you just sign on to
> program, Dpbrokers.com sets up the website for you
And then we can have even more spammers, Great!
>, and you give the
> web address to any clients and they decide on the plan that fits them.
> Commissions are 30% for the initial signup and 10% for any renewals.
Again, how much does the dentist get?
> For more information please contact me through email
That sounds like fun!
> or if you would like to read more about the program visit:
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One final question, please answer here: Why would anybody do business with
a spammer?
Vaughn