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Does Scaling and Root Planing hurt?

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maninbrain@hotmail.com - 27 Jan 2005 14:21 GMT
Hello..

Good Morning, Dentists and Dental Students.....

I need to hear some testimonials to put my mind at ease.

With Novacaine...does scaling and root planing hurt?  I am the world's
biggest baby about going to the dentist...which is why I am having all
this done - I had my first checkup in ten years yesterday.  Anyway,
they couldn't even give me a cleaning because I need to come back a few
times for scaling and root planing.  I completely trust the dentist,
who is a good friend of my family, and who is hailed as a great dentist
by everyone I know.  Anyway, he said he's going to give me novacaine
for each session, so that makes me feel a little better...but just the
word "root planing" scares the sh.t out of me.  So could someone help
me so I can put my mind at ease!?  I realize that I'm paying the price
for my own stupidity in deliberately avoiding the dentist for a decade,
but I'm really nervous about this.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.

-Doug
The Real Paul - 27 Jan 2005 15:41 GMT
I'm always perplexed when patients ask is it going to hurt even when they
know they are going to receive anesthetic for the procedure. That is the
whole idea of using anesthetic, so you don't feel the procedure. You will
however feel the slight pinch and maybe a bit of stinging when given the
injection of anesthetic. After that you should be so numb that you can't
even feel your face. If you do feel some disomfort during the procedure,
then inform the hygenist and she will get the doc to boost up the numbness
wherever you need it. Just to reassure you, you'll be fine.

> Hello..
>
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>
> -Doug
Tony Bad - 27 Jan 2005 16:28 GMT
> I'm always perplexed when patients ask is it going to hurt even when they
> know they are going to receive anesthetic for the procedure. That is the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> then inform the hygenist and she will get the doc to boost up the numbness
> wherever you need it. Just to reassure you, you'll be fine.

Ahhhh....I see you have jumped to the conclusion that the patient is getting
REAL scaling and root planing, which, as you indicate, would involve the use
of anesthetic to properly complete. Sadly, what I have found in speaking
with patients and friends, is that a considerable amount of "scaling and
root planing" is actually a cleaning stretched over two or more
appointments, and rarely involves anesthesia, just a bit more agressive than
normal cleaning.

T
maninbrain@hotmail.com - 27 Jan 2005 17:36 GMT
Well I have never heard the terms before yesterday.  The dentist said
"Scaling and Root Planing."  He said it would be two to three
appointments, and he said it would require novacaine.  They "measured
my gums" with a hook and wrote down a bunch of numbers.  Is this real
scaling?  Is this dentist trying to trick me?

The reason I asked about pain, regardless of the novacaine, is because
of the term "root planing" and how I would imagine that would be
painful based on reading the pamphlet he gave me.  I am honestly just
not aware whether or not novacaine blocks out that kind of
pain...that's all.
Tony Bad - 27 Jan 2005 17:49 GMT
> Well I have never heard the terms before yesterday.  The dentist said
> "Scaling and Root Planing."  He said it would be two to three
> appointments, and he said it would require novacaine.  They "measured
> my gums" with a hook and wrote down a bunch of numbers.  Is this real
> scaling?  Is this dentist trying to trick me?

Sounds real to me.

T
W_B - 27 Jan 2005 17:50 GMT
>Well I have never heard the terms before yesterday.  The dentist said
>"Scaling and Root Planing."  He said it would be two to three
>appointments, and he said it would require novacaine.  They "measured
>my gums" with a hook and wrote down a bunch of numbers.

It's called a periodontal probe.
What do you recall as the most frequent numbers ?

>  Is this real
>scaling?  Is this dentist trying to trick me?

Doubtful after 10 years of neglect.

>The reason I asked about pain, regardless of the novacaine, is because
>of the term "root planing" and how I would imagine that would be
>painful based on reading the pamphlet he gave me.  I am honestly just
>not aware whether or not novacaine blocks out that kind of
>pain...that's all.

Novocaine® is not manufactured anymore and for quite some
time to the best of my knowledge.

Scaling = removing calculus (tartar) from the crown and root(s) of the teeth.

Root Planing = smoothing the rough root surfaces to inhibit new calculus formation.

When done with anesthesia it is not painful during the procedure and usually only
results in some soreness of the gingiva (gum tissue) afterwards.
There may be some thermal sensitivity of the teeth afterward that is easily treated.

Try to be calm, this is considered a routine treatment.
       
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W_B

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maninbrain@hotmail.com - 27 Jan 2005 18:23 GMT
I know and I realize I'm making a big deal over nothing.  Just curious.
This has all been helpful.  Thanks.  I know he's not trying to trick
me, I was just joking, having been surprised by the one strange replay
about how this is probably not "true scaling" (or something like that).
I only know what he said.  And I know the guy.

As for the novacaine, I'm sure he just used the term "novacaine"
because it is a familiar term that means "numb" to the average moron
like me.
W_B - 28 Jan 2005 16:05 GMT
>I know and I realize I'm making a big deal over nothing.  Just curious.
>This has all been helpful.  Thanks.  I know he's not trying to trick
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>because it is a familiar term that means "numb" to the average moron
>like me.

But now you are a semi-informed dental consumer...
like Adenosine... ;-]
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W_B

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wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
W_B - 27 Jan 2005 16:39 GMT
>I'm always perplexed when patients ask is it going to hurt even when they
>know they are going to receive anesthetic for the procedure. That is the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>then inform the hygenist and she will get the doc to boost up the numbness
>wherever you need it. Just to reassure you, you'll be fine.

Yeah, what he said.

>> Hello..
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> With Novacaine...

Dentists don't use Novocaine® anymore.
It hasn't been manufactured in some time.
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W_B

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CWatters - 28 Jan 2005 09:04 GMT
Don't panic. The injection is the worse part. I've had teeth pulled out and
the injection is still the worse part.

Personally I find it helps if the dentist/assistant is pretty :-)
Joel M. Eichen - 28 Jan 2005 12:58 GMT
>Don't panic. The injection is the worse part. I've had teeth pulled out and
>the injection is still the worse part.
>
>Personally I find it helps if the dentist/assistant is pretty :-)

30% of the patients claim,

"Doc I had no idea you already pulled the tooth!"

Strange but true.

Joel
maninbrain@hotmail.com - 28 Jan 2005 13:08 GMT
The funny thing is...the reason I wonder whether I'll have pain,
despite the anesthesia, is because when I was a kid I had two teeth
pulled.  I had anesthesia, and it still hurt like hell.  That was about
20 years ago, though.
Joel M. Eichen - 28 Jan 2005 13:15 GMT
>The funny thing is...the reason I wonder whether I'll have pain,
>despite the anesthesia, is because when I was a kid I had two teeth
>pulled.  I had anesthesia, and it still hurt like hell.  That was about
>20 years ago, though.

Dentists are better today, perhaps due to increased competition!

No one wants to be known as a hurtin' dentist.

Joel
W_B - 28 Jan 2005 16:12 GMT
>Dentists are better today, perhaps due to increased competition!
>
>No one wants to be known as a hurtin' dentist.
>
>Joel

Except for Dr. Payne...
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W_B

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Dr. Steve - 28 Jan 2005 16:23 GMT
>>Dentists are better today, perhaps due to increased competition!
>>
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>>
>Except for Dr. Payne...

He was a classmate of mine.
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
W_B - 28 Jan 2005 17:36 GMT
>>>Dentists are better today, perhaps due to increased competition!
>>>
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>..
>Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.

Did you also know Dr. Hertz ?
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W_B

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Dr. Steve - 29 Jan 2005 02:14 GMT
>>>>Dentists are better today, perhaps due to increased competition!
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Did you also know Dr. Hertz ?

No, but Geoff Paine was in my class.  Great guy.
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Jan 2005 12:18 GMT
>>Did you also know Dr. Hertz ?
>
>No, but Geoff Paine was in my class.  Great guy.

I always thought that was a joke, you know, they told you his first
name or something.
Dr. Steve - 29 Jan 2005 18:51 GMT
>>>Did you also know Dr. Hertz ?
>>
>>No, but Geoff Paine was in my class.  Great guy.
>
>I always thought that was a joke, you know, they told you his first
>name or something.

Honest,,,,, Geoffrey was in my class and still practices dentistry
here in Michigan.
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
W_B - 30 Jan 2005 03:04 GMT
>Honest,,,,, Geoffrey was in my class and still practices dentistry
>here in Michigan.
>..
>Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.

There should be a law...

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W_B

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