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Steve - 25 Jan 2005 15:19 GMT
I have all my life been operating on what I was told when young,  brush your
teeth after meals, now when going to a private dentist I am told, NO...
brushing after meals does them harm, either do it just before or sometime
after. Now this means heading off for a days work with corn flakes and milk
taste stuck to my teeth, and a general feeling of unclean mouth all day,
compared to a brushed mouth before exiting house. More food at lunchtime
then a meal late evening, I get home 7.30 pm and start other tasks, main
meal somewhat later then relax and oops...doze off as by then knackered and
go to bed after midnight !!. so my teeth are not being cleaned of food so it
feels.  If I forget this new practice of cleaning before breakfast, then
they dont get done as no time after breakfast as its the last event before
out the door, as it is for many folk.

Is this correct practice then...clean before a meal or after it, and how
long after a meal should one wait ?
Steve
Dr Steve - 25 Jan 2005 15:45 GMT
Just brush after eating and stop worrying about it

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Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
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>I have all my life been operating on what I was told when young,  brush
>your
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> long after a meal should one wait ?
> Steve
Steve - 25 Jan 2005 22:56 GMT
I was hoping for an explanation as to why before or after meals was better,
I am strongly advised to do so before yet now again I am told after.
So there is no right or wrong then ?
Steve

> Just brush after eating and stop worrying about it
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> > long after a meal should one wait ?
> > Steve
Joel M. Eichen - 25 Jan 2005 23:32 GMT
>I was hoping for an explanation as to why before or after meals was better,
>I am strongly advised to do so before yet now again I am told after.
>So there is no right or wrong then ?
>Steve

After ... to brush the sugar off!

Joel

>> Just brush after eating and stop worrying about it
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>> > long after a meal should one wait ?
>> > Steve
W_B - 26 Jan 2005 16:14 GMT
You really can't brush too often.
Always use a soft brush and minimally abrasive dentifrice.

Brush and floss your teeth at least daily.

>I was hoping for an explanation as to why before or after meals was better,
>I am strongly advised to do so before yet now again I am told after.
>So there is no right or wrong then ?
>Steve
>
>> Just brush after eating and stop worrying about it

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MC60614@AOL.COM - 25 Jan 2005 22:58 GMT
Hi, If true, you can always Floss and use mouthwash. Michael
StovePipe - 26 Jan 2005 03:37 GMT
> Is this correct practice then...clean before a meal or after it, and how
> long after a meal should one wait ?
> Steve

What the Local Periodontist Guy says is to wait about 20 minutes or so
to brush. This way, the saliva acts as a natural buffer, neutralizing
excess acids in the mouth after eating. This takes a bit of time. This
way, you won't abrade the teeth with acidic residues as you brush. I
must admit, I NEVER have time for this, as I NEVER get more than a few
minutes for lunch or dinner when I'm working. So, an alternative that
makes sense to me would be to gargle with baking soda for a few seconds
(Blaaaahhh...) and then brush. On those days where I've eaten stuff with
alot of sugars or hot sauces, I DO gargle like this. If not, I just
brush, but gently, after taking a healthy swig of Tooth and Gum Tonic
first (Blaaaahhhh...).

I am not really into pain and suffering, but I have a couple of exposed
roots on my teeth, and I thinkthis may help prevent them from getting
pitted.

I should add that now that I wear an NTI at night, root exposure should
be stabilized, unless I become a manic tooth brusher.

These are the opinions of Le Stove Pipe only, and not of this server or
the SMD in general.

Hope this makes sense
SP
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Dr Steve - 26 Jan 2005 12:13 GMT
I have heard such claims recently, however, I have never seen a problem from
brushing right after meals, and I have never seen a study that really
convinced me that you should wait before brushing.  I have seen articles
"discussing" the need to wait prior to brushing after episodes of GERD, but
then that leaves the acidic residues on the teeth longer.  And, rinsing with
a buffer is not going to get as much of the acid off as brushing will.

My opinion, (based on 20 years in practice and thinking for myself) is to go
brush as soon after eating as possible.

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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>> Is this correct practice then...clean before a meal or after it, and how
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> Hope this makes sense
> SP
Joel M. Eichen - 26 Jan 2005 12:18 GMT
>I have heard such claims recently, however, I have never seen a problem from
>brushing right after meals, and I have never seen a study that really
>convinced me that you should wait before brushing.

I agree. Its hyperbole!

Joel

> I have seen articles
>"discussing" the need to wait prior to brushing after episodes of GERD, but
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>My opinion, (based on 20 years in practice and thinking for myself) is to go
>brush as soon after eating as possible.
Roy Brown - 27 Jan 2005 05:23 GMT
Rinsing first with water should dilute the concentrations. I'm surprised the
baking soda tooth paste marketers have not jumped all over this one.

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|I have heard such claims recently, however, I have never seen a problem from
| brushing right after meals, and I have never seen a study that really
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Matt - 26 Jan 2005 11:22 GMT
> I have all my life been operating on what I was told when young,  brush your
> teeth after meals, now when going to a private dentist I am told, NO...
> brushing after meals does them harm, either do it just before or sometime
> after.

Just what harm is supposedly done, and how is it done?
Steve - 28 Jan 2005 22:41 GMT
Matt, my thoughts exactly,

We have :-
"What the Local Periodontist Guy says is to wait about 20 minutes or so
to brush. This way, the saliva acts as a natural buffer, neutralizing
excess acids in the mouth after eating. This takes a bit of time. This
way, you won't abrade the teeth with acidic residues as you brush"

and ...

"I have heard such claims recently, however, I have never seen a problem
from
brushing right after meals, and I have never seen a study that really
convinced me that you should wait before brushing."

interesting....first one has a chemical explanation..second has one based on
evidence seen. I guess its down to an individuals choice.
So perhaps it isnt standard teaching nowadays after all to brush before or
sometime after. This is what I had wondered.

Also is arm and hammer soda a better method than fluoride toothpaste given
the theorys behind all  this ? I also heard that fluoride is not v good,
Scotland recently said no to it !
Thanks so far for everyones thoughts on this,

Being practical about this, would anyone think to brush 20 mins or more
afterwards, think of the standard breakfast time and race to get to work in
the mornings, breakfast is often the last thing, certainly for me. Perhaps
better to brush before or just after than not at all though.

Steve

> > I have all my life been operating on what I was told when young,  brush your
> > teeth after meals, now when going to a private dentist I am told, NO...
> > brushing after meals does them harm, either do it just before or sometime
> > after.
>
> Just what harm is supposedly done, and how is it done?
 
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