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Steve - 25 Jan 2005 15:19 GMT I have all my life been operating on what I was told when young, brush your teeth after meals, now when going to a private dentist I am told, NO... brushing after meals does them harm, either do it just before or sometime after. Now this means heading off for a days work with corn flakes and milk taste stuck to my teeth, and a general feeling of unclean mouth all day, compared to a brushed mouth before exiting house. More food at lunchtime then a meal late evening, I get home 7.30 pm and start other tasks, main meal somewhat later then relax and oops...doze off as by then knackered and go to bed after midnight !!. so my teeth are not being cleaned of food so it feels. If I forget this new practice of cleaning before breakfast, then they dont get done as no time after breakfast as its the last event before out the door, as it is for many folk.
Is this correct practice then...clean before a meal or after it, and how long after a meal should one wait ? Steve
Dr Steve - 25 Jan 2005 15:45 GMT Just brush after eating and stop worrying about it
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
>I have all my life been operating on what I was told when young, brush >your [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > long after a meal should one wait ? > Steve Steve - 25 Jan 2005 22:56 GMT I was hoping for an explanation as to why before or after meals was better, I am strongly advised to do so before yet now again I am told after. So there is no right or wrong then ? Steve
> Just brush after eating and stop worrying about it > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > long after a meal should one wait ? > > Steve Joel M. Eichen - 25 Jan 2005 23:32 GMT >I was hoping for an explanation as to why before or after meals was better, >I am strongly advised to do so before yet now again I am told after. >So there is no right or wrong then ? >Steve After ... to brush the sugar off!
Joel
>> Just brush after eating and stop worrying about it >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> > long after a meal should one wait ? >> > Steve W_B - 26 Jan 2005 16:14 GMT You really can't brush too often. Always use a soft brush and minimally abrasive dentifrice.
Brush and floss your teeth at least daily.
>I was hoping for an explanation as to why before or after meals was better, >I am strongly advised to do so before yet now again I am told after. >So there is no right or wrong then ? >Steve > >> Just brush after eating and stop worrying about it --
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MC60614@AOL.COM - 25 Jan 2005 22:58 GMT Hi, If true, you can always Floss and use mouthwash. Michael
StovePipe - 26 Jan 2005 03:37 GMT > Is this correct practice then...clean before a meal or after it, and how > long after a meal should one wait ? > Steve What the Local Periodontist Guy says is to wait about 20 minutes or so to brush. This way, the saliva acts as a natural buffer, neutralizing excess acids in the mouth after eating. This takes a bit of time. This way, you won't abrade the teeth with acidic residues as you brush. I must admit, I NEVER have time for this, as I NEVER get more than a few minutes for lunch or dinner when I'm working. So, an alternative that makes sense to me would be to gargle with baking soda for a few seconds (Blaaaahhh...) and then brush. On those days where I've eaten stuff with alot of sugars or hot sauces, I DO gargle like this. If not, I just brush, but gently, after taking a healthy swig of Tooth and Gum Tonic first (Blaaaahhhh...).
I am not really into pain and suffering, but I have a couple of exposed roots on my teeth, and I thinkthis may help prevent them from getting pitted.
I should add that now that I wear an NTI at night, root exposure should be stabilized, unless I become a manic tooth brusher.
These are the opinions of Le Stove Pipe only, and not of this server or the SMD in general.
Hope this makes sense SP
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Dr Steve - 26 Jan 2005 12:13 GMT I have heard such claims recently, however, I have never seen a problem from brushing right after meals, and I have never seen a study that really convinced me that you should wait before brushing. I have seen articles "discussing" the need to wait prior to brushing after episodes of GERD, but then that leaves the acidic residues on the teeth longer. And, rinsing with a buffer is not going to get as much of the acid off as brushing will.
My opinion, (based on 20 years in practice and thinking for myself) is to go brush as soon after eating as possible.
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
> >> Is this correct practice then...clean before a meal or after it, and how [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Hope this makes sense > SP Joel M. Eichen - 26 Jan 2005 12:18 GMT >I have heard such claims recently, however, I have never seen a problem from >brushing right after meals, and I have never seen a study that really >convinced me that you should wait before brushing. I agree. Its hyperbole!
Joel
> I have seen articles >"discussing" the need to wait prior to brushing after episodes of GERD, but [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >My opinion, (based on 20 years in practice and thinking for myself) is to go >brush as soon after eating as possible. Roy Brown - 27 Jan 2005 05:23 GMT Rinsing first with water should dilute the concentrations. I'm surprised the baking soda tooth paste marketers have not jumped all over this one.
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|I have heard such claims recently, however, I have never seen a problem from | brushing right after meals, and I have never seen a study that really [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] | > Hope this makes sense | > SP Matt - 26 Jan 2005 11:22 GMT > I have all my life been operating on what I was told when young, brush your > teeth after meals, now when going to a private dentist I am told, NO... > brushing after meals does them harm, either do it just before or sometime > after. Just what harm is supposedly done, and how is it done?
Steve - 28 Jan 2005 22:41 GMT Matt, my thoughts exactly,
We have :- "What the Local Periodontist Guy says is to wait about 20 minutes or so to brush. This way, the saliva acts as a natural buffer, neutralizing excess acids in the mouth after eating. This takes a bit of time. This way, you won't abrade the teeth with acidic residues as you brush"
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"I have heard such claims recently, however, I have never seen a problem from brushing right after meals, and I have never seen a study that really convinced me that you should wait before brushing."
interesting....first one has a chemical explanation..second has one based on evidence seen. I guess its down to an individuals choice. So perhaps it isnt standard teaching nowadays after all to brush before or sometime after. This is what I had wondered.
Also is arm and hammer soda a better method than fluoride toothpaste given the theorys behind all this ? I also heard that fluoride is not v good, Scotland recently said no to it ! Thanks so far for everyones thoughts on this,
Being practical about this, would anyone think to brush 20 mins or more afterwards, think of the standard breakfast time and race to get to work in the mornings, breakfast is often the last thing, certainly for me. Perhaps better to brush before or just after than not at all though.
Steve
> > I have all my life been operating on what I was told when young, brush your > > teeth after meals, now when going to a private dentist I am told, NO... > > brushing after meals does them harm, either do it just before or sometime > > after. > > Just what harm is supposedly done, and how is it done?
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