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Act Rinse vs. Tom's of Maine

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KitKat - 21 Jan 2005 08:38 GMT
I'm looking for a mouthwash that doesn't have any alcohol in it because it
leads to canker sores in my mouth.

Tom's of Maine (spearmint flavored) and Act (cinnamon and mint) are the only
non-alcoholic versions available at my drugstore.

Can anyone recommend one over the other?  Thanks.
Pepe - 21 Jan 2005 13:10 GMT
KitKat,
My dentist recommended a product called "The Natural Dentist" mouth
rinse.  It is alcohol free and very soothing to my gums.  I have been
using it for 10 years and i would not be without it. Pepe
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Jan 2005 13:28 GMT
>KitKat,
>My dentist recommended a product called "The Natural Dentist" mouth
>rinse.  It is alcohol free and very soothing to my gums.  I have been
>using it for 10 years and i would not be without it. Pepe

Uh-oh. Better watch out for the W_B .......... and that is not Warner
Brothers .......
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Jan 2005 14:02 GMT
>KitKat,
>My dentist recommended a product called "The Natural Dentist" mouth
>rinse.  It is alcohol free and very soothing to my gums.  I have been
>using it for 10 years and i would not be without it. Pepe

Oh pardon me. I am sorry. I misread it and I was afraid to open the
website.

I thought it said, "Naturalist Dentist."

Joel
W_B - 21 Jan 2005 16:49 GMT
>>KitKat,
>>My dentist recommended a product called "The Natural Dentist" mouth
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>
>Joel

ITYM "Naturist".
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W_B

Take out the G'RBAGE
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KitKat - 21 Jan 2005 19:15 GMT
> KitKat,
> My dentist recommended a product called "The Natural Dentist" mouth
> rinse.  It is alcohol free and very soothing to my gums.  I have been
> using it for 10 years and i would not be without it. Pepe

Thanks for your recommendation.  However, I checked another drugstore (my
usual one didn't carry it) and it was $7+ dollars for 8 oz.  Wherease the
Act and Tom's were about $5+ for 18 and 16 oz. bottles.

It looks like a good product, but I just can't afford it right now.

So I guess that brings me back to my original question.
Tony Bad - 21 Jan 2005 20:16 GMT
> It looks like a good product, but I just can't afford it right now.
>
> So I guess that brings me back to my original question.

If you don't mind me asking, why do you need a rinse. If your budget is
tight, your dollars would be best spent on a toothbrush and floss, and your
time using them properly and frequently. The cheapest dental care is good
preventive care. Rinses are a shortcut in some situations, but rarely a
necessity.

T
KitKat - 21 Jan 2005 20:16 GMT
>> It looks like a good product, but I just can't afford it right now.
>>
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>
> T

My budget isn't stretched to the limit (if I really needed the Natural
Dentist rinse for a specific reason, I'd buy it without question).  I'm just
finishing school and I'm more of "bang for the buck" kinda guy.

I brush twice a day and floss every morning.  I've always liked using a
mouth wash though.

Also, I always thought rinsing was the third leg on the tripod of home
dental care.  Isn't it required for getting those spots that flossing and
brushing might miss?  I also assumed it was good to gargle it for your
breath.

Would it be better for brush, floss, and just use a breath mint?

My dentist always told me to use a mouth rinse, but I'm interested in  your
ideas.  Please write back.  Thanks.
Tony Bad - 21 Jan 2005 20:37 GMT
> My budget isn't stretched to the limit (if I really needed the Natural
> Dentist rinse for a specific reason, I'd buy it without question).  I'm just
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> My dentist always told me to use a mouth rinse, but I'm interested in  your
> ideas.  Please write back.  Thanks.

I fully understand the bang for buck concept. It is a good concept to hang
on to whereever life takes you.

I guess there are differing opinions regarding rinses. I recommend it for
patients who have proven unwilling or incapable of doing an adequate job
with flossing and brushing, as something is better than nothing. For
patients who CAN take care of things with just a brush and floss, I think it
is redundant. That said, I have seen many instances where rinsing IS
routinely recommended by some offices. Is it a bad thing? No, but is it
needed? Not in my opinion.

As for flossing, it is best to do that at night. When we sleep and salivary
flow is limited, this is when the bacteria in plaque do their biggest
damage. If you floss in the AM only, anything that accumulates between teeth
will stay there overnight. Ideally, do it AM and PM, but if only once a day,
try getting it into your night-time routine.

With regard to your breath, if you do a thorough job with flossing and
brushing, your breath should be fine. If it isn't, you may want to check
into nutritional and/or metabolic issues, as they are often the cause of
breath issues.

T
KitKat - 21 Jan 2005 21:08 GMT
>> My budget isn't stretched to the limit (if I really needed the Natural
>> Dentist rinse for a specific reason, I'd buy it without question).  I'm
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>
> T

Thanks a lot.  I'll definetily start flossing in the AM and PM.
KitKat - 21 Jan 2005 21:53 GMT
Whoops, one more thing I forgot to ask you.

When I sleep, I sometimes open my mouth and I wake up with a dryish/stale
feeling in my mouth (I think this contributes to my morning breath).
Brushing, flossing and water don't get rid of this, but gargling mouthwash
does and it's one of the main reasons I use it.  So I guess I still have to
use a rinse, but I'll only use it in the morning.

Would the extra flouride in the Act rinses be benificial to this at all?  Or
would the Tom's natural be better?  Thanks.
Matt - 22 Jan 2005 20:36 GMT
> Also, I always thought rinsing was the third leg on the tripod of home
> dental care.  Isn't it required for getting those spots that flossing and
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> My dentist always told me to use a mouth rinse, but I'm interested in  your
> ideas.  Please write back.  Thanks.

Try brushing all the soft tissues inside your mouth.  Consider that bad
breath comes from bacteria acting on sloughed off cells and food debris
adhering to the soft tissues.  Also consider that those materials may
provide some support for decay-causing bacteria.
StovePipe - 23 Jan 2005 01:45 GMT
> I brush twice a day and floss every morning.  I've always liked using a
> mouth wash though.

I'd say floss in the evening, if it is only once a day.

> Also, I always thought rinsing was the third leg on the tripod of home
> dental care.  Isn't it required for getting those spots that flossing and
> brushing might miss?  

No rinse will get what mechanical cleaning will not.

>I also assumed it was good to gargle it for your
> breath.

Brush your tongue, use a soup spoon to clean the back of it.

> Would it be better for brush, floss, and just use a breath mint?

Non...... has sugar..... makes it happen all over again....

> My dentist always told me to use a mouth rinse, but I'm interested in  your
> ideas.  Please write back.  Thanks.

these are the opinions of le Stove Pipe, and not those of this server
SP
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StovePipe - 23 Jan 2005 01:45 GMT
> > It looks like a good product, but I just can't afford it right now.
> >
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>
> T

Amen.
SP

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Shirley Gutkowski RDH - 24 Jan 2005 01:55 GMT
>I'm looking for a mouthwash that doesn't have any alcohol in it because it
>leads to canker sores in my mouth.

Here are some other options:

Spry (www.sprydental.com) this one contains xylitol which has extra benefits
over the others.

Rembrant Dazzling Fresh (www.rembrandt.com)
Breath Rx (www.Discusdental.com)

Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
"Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."
    - P. J. O'Rourke
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http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Jan 2005 13:33 GMT
>>I'm looking for a mouthwash that doesn't have any alcohol in it because it
>>leads to canker sores in my mouth.
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>Spry (www.sprydental.com) this one contains xylitol which has extra benefits
>over the others.

Spry is also good for greasing the pan before baking the apple pie.

Joel

It is a little greasy on the teeth though.

>Rembrant Dazzling Fresh (www.rembrandt.com)
>Breath Rx (www.Discusdental.com)
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>http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
 
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