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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / January 2005I NEED your help!
Hello everyone. It's Luiza again, and this time I really need your help IRL. I've been going to this dentist almost weekly since November (yes for 3 MONTHS!) and all I have to show for it is one filling and 1 root canal and one crown that has to be redone. I really need your help finding another dentist in the west L.A./ Santa Monica area who will work with Principal Financial PPO to get the rest of my fillings done (I believe I have 4 more to go). It's important because I don't want my cavities to turn into root canals! I can't believe I have to go through this torture. BTW, does anyone know of the dental office I speak of? (Joseph Sabet on 7th street in Santa Monica, but dentist is Dr. Verdi) I need someone: 1)Professional 2)Timely- who will get my fillings done in a timely manner and will not make me wait AN HOUR afer I've arrived ON TIME just to get in the chair. I am a mother to a 4 1/2 month old, so I don't have all the time in the world to wait for an over-booked dentist. 3) Who can work Mondays/Tuesdays because that's when my mom baby sits. 4) Friendly - That's optional. I just want to get this done. :-) I take it I have to ask for my paper work and x rays because I am definitely not getting any more x rays done. Sorry, I am *really* steamed right now. -Weezie >Principal Financial PPO http://www.principal.com/grouplh/dental_mdc.htm Managed Dental Care The Principal® developed managed dental care to help combat rising dental care costs and to help employers spend their dental benefit dollars wisely. But we're not just concerned about the bottom line. Our first priority is making sure insureds receive quality dental care from skilled, experienced dentists. Provider Network We do this by partnering with Insurance Dentists of America (IDOA), a respected organization comprised of over 50,000 selected dentists. IDOA screens PPO network dentists to ensure proper credentialing and practice patterns. Flexibility & Savings In certain locations, The Principal® offers a Preferred Provider Organization (PPO) network. The Principal® Dental PPO allows employees the freedom to select the dentist of their choice. They can select a PPO participating dentist and enjoy increased benefits, since PPO providers agree to accept negotiated fees as payment in full. Employees can also select a non-participating dentist and receive slightly lower benefits. To see what PPO networks are offered in your area please visit our PPO Network Map Exclusive Provider Organization (EPO) Dental Highlights The Principal® offers a Dental EPO in select California markets. An EPO is similar to a PPO except that covered members must use an in-network provider to receive any benefits. Dentists in the network agree to accept negotiated fees so covered members receive high-quality, cost-effective dental care. For more information on these or other benefit design options, contact your local representative of The Principal® by clicking on Office Locations at the left. GP 43537-2 01/2001 Have a question >Hello everyone. It's Luiza again, and this time I really need your help >IRL. I've been going to this dentist almost weekly since November (yes [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >this torture. BTW, does anyone know of the dental office I speak of? >(Joseph Sabet on 7th street in Santa Monica, but dentist is Dr. Verdi) http://c3.go2dental.com/member/dental_search/provsel.cgi >Hello everyone. It's Luiza again, and this time I really need your help >IRL. I've been going to this dentist almost weekly since November (yes [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >this torture. BTW, does anyone know of the dental office I speak of? >(Joseph Sabet on 7th street in Santa Monica, but dentist is Dr. Verdi) Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.15 9. JOSEPH P SABET DDS General Practitioner 1244 7Th St Ste 101 Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)393-0743 >I need someone: >1)Professional [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >definitely not getting any more x rays done. >Sorry, I am *really* steamed right now. The provider network constantly expands and changes. We cannot guarantee that all listed healthcare providers will be participating in your network at the time services are rendered. It is your responsibility to verify your healthcare provider's membership by calling your Managed Care Network and by confirming participation with your provider at the time of appointment. To obtain the phone number of your Managed Care Network, click here: https://www.principal.com/partners/providers/ppomap.htm You've requested a provider in the The Principal Plan Dental Network. Through our network relationships we have the following 100 of 758 PPO provider(s) available in the location requested. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. WILLIAM S WONG DDS General Practitioner 1137 2Nd St Ste 220 Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)451-8103 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.08 2. THOMSON L SUN DDS General Practitioner 1218 6Th St Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)451-1613 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.11 3. N CAMAY DDS General Practitioner 1227 Lincoln Blvd Ste 202 Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)393-0667 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.12 4. MILTON G BRANDOLINO DDS General Practitioner 1234 7Th St Ste 1 Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)899-9432 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.13 5. BABAK E BEIGI DDS General Practitioner 1244 7Th St Ste 204 Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)394-1373 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.15 6. BOBBY E BEIGI DDS General Practitioner 1244 7Th St Ste 204 Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)394-1373 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.15 7. NAZLEY KHORSANDI DDS General Practitioner 1244 7Th St Ste 102 Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)393-1313 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.15 8. NAZLY KHORSANDI SABET DDS General Practitioner 1244 7Th St Ste 101 Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)393-0743 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.15 9. JOSEPH P SABET DDS General Practitioner 1244 7Th St Ste 101 Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)393-0743 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.15 10. EBRAHIM DAYANIM DDS General Practitioner 620 Arizona Ave Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)394-6467 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.22 11. FRANK P GUSSMAN DDS General Practitioner 620 Arizona Ave Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)393-0521 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.22 12. DEMIAN NEWHART DDS General Practitioner 301 Arizona Ave Ste 300 Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)393-9389 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.25 13. THOMAS DO DDS I General Practitioner 1260 15Th St Ste 703 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)393-8284 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.30 14. STANLEY KANDEL DDS General Practitioner 1260 15Th St Ste 805 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)395-1261 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.30 15. MOHAMMED N MAPARA DMD General Practitioner 1150 18Th St Ste 101 Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)829-4100 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.30 16. ALAN RUBENSTEIN DDS General Practitioner 1260 15Th St Ste 703 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)393-8284 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.30 17. SHIRLEY S CHENG DDS General Practitioner 1304 15Th St Ste 314 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)394-5879 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.35 18. RITA WEISBERG DDS General Practitioner 1304 15Th St Ste 315 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)451-8402 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.35 19. KENNETH K Y WONG DDS General Practitioner 1304 15Th St Ste 311 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)656-8880 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.35 20. MICHAEL D WONG DDS General Practitioner 1304 15Th St Ste 203 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)451-3139 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.35 21. CALIOPI V FIELD DDS General Practitioner 1807 Wilshire Blvd Ste A Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)453-5436 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.36 22. EUGENE FIELD DDS General Practitioner 1807 Wilshire Blvd Ste A Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)453-5436 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.36 23. NOVSHIN ADHAMI DDS General Practitioner 225 26Th St Ste 33 Santa Monica, CA 90402 (310)451-2728 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.44 24. MARC ROJTMAN DDS General Practitioner 225 26Th St Ste 33 Santa Monica, CA 90402 (310)451-2728 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.44 25. ELLIOT P SCHLANG DDS General Practitioner 225 26Th St Ste 33 Santa Monica, CA 90402 (310)451-2728 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.44 26. LARRY PICARD DDS General Practitioner 1530 Lincoln Blvd Ste A Santa Monica, CA 90401 (310)395-0605 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.51 27. RICHARD J KIM DDS General Practitioner 1908 Santa Monica Blvd Ste 2 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)829-5961 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.62 28. CAROL E FOLLETTE DDS General Practitioner 2021 Santa Monica Blvd Ste 704E Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)829-4322 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.66 29. RAMIN FARZAM DDS General Practitioner 2210 Santa Monica Blvd Ste B Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)264-5084 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.72 30. YVONNE GOFF BRICKLEY DDS General Practitioner 2336 Santa Monica Blvd Ste 202 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)829-5700 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.81 31. FRANCIS R JONES DDS General Practitioner 2336 Santa Monica Blvd Ste 202 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)829-5430 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.81 32. DAVID YOUSSEFI DMD General Practitioner 2428 Santa Monica Blvd Ste 403 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)696-6996 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.86 33. DAVID J TAFT DDS General Practitioner 2428 Santa Monica Blvd Ste 303 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)315-3676 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.86 34. JOYCE FANG DDS General Practitioner 2730 Wilshire Blvd Ste 410 Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)453-8606 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.87 35. GORDON LEWIS DDS General Practitioner 2730 Wilshire Blvd Ste 201 Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)828-1513 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.87 36. ALAN L SAMUEL DDS General Practitioner 2730 Wilshire Blvd Ste 201 Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)828-1513 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.87 37. ERIC A VIDEGAIN DDS General Practitioner 2730 Wilshire Blvd Ste 201 Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)828-1513 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.87 38. STEPHEN ASHER DDS General Practitioner 2901 Wilshire Blvd Ste 205 Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)828-6684 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.97 39. BRIGITTA DECZITO DDS General Practitioner 2901 Wilshire Blvd Ste 225 Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)829-2482 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.97 40. STEVEN E AARONSON DDS General Practitioner 2901 Wilshire Blvd #221 Santa Monica, CA 90403 (310)829-0091 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 1.97 41. JAMAL MAHBOOB DDS General Practitioner Suite 101 3200 Santa Monica Blvd Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)453-8907 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.03 42. PEERANAN S LEE DMD General Practitioner 2915 Santa Monica Blvd Ste 3 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)829-0808 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.13 43. SAYENA MASHKOURI DDS General Practitioner 2915 Santa Monica Blvd Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)829-0808 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.13 44. E BENJI BEHROOZAN DDS General Practitioner 2221 Lincoln Blvd Ste 200 Santa Monica, CA 90405 (310)396-9999 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.26 45. YOSI PAYAM BEHROOZAN DDS General Practitioner 2221 Lincoln Blvd Ste 200 Santa Monica, CA 90405 (310)396-9999 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.26 46. MANOOCHEHR ANSARI DDS General Practitioner 3200 Santa Monica Blvd Ste 101 Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)453-8907 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.31 47. JAMAL MAHBOOB DDS General Practitioner Suite 101 3200 Santa Monica Blvd Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310)453-8907 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.33 48. HAMEED R NEJATFARD DDS General Practitioner 12222 Wilshire Blvd Ste 104 Los Angeles, CA 90025 (310)207-6453 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.40 49. SHAHDAD ARAMI DDS General Practitioner 11980 San Vincente #802 Los Angeles, CA 90049 (310)207-1180 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.47 50. KEVIN BARRETT DDS General Practitioner 11980 San Vicente Blvd Ste 802 Los Angeles, CA 90049 (310)820-4952 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.47 51. JOSEPH M GOODMAN DMD General Practitioner 11980 San Vincente Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90049 (310)207-5008 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.47 52. HEIDI H PARK DDS General Practitioner 11980 San Vicente Blvd Ste 802 Los Angeles, CA 90049 (213)446-4207 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.47 53. MOJGAN SHOKRI DDS General Practitioner 11980 San Vicente Blvd Ste 802 Los Angeles, CA 90049 (310)820-3420 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.47 54. HEATHER N TREWHITT DDS General Practitioner 11980 San Vincente Blvd Suite 802 Los Angeles, CA 90049 (213)820-4952 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.47 55. KHASHAYAR KHODADADI DDS General Practitioner 12340 Santa Monica Blvd Ste 241 W Los Angeles, CA 90025 (310)571-2425 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.49 56. JOHN C NORFLEET DDS General Practitioner 11973 San Vicente Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90049 (213)472-2512 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.49 57. MAURICE M VAHEDIFAR DMD General Practitioner Suite 117 12304 Santa Monica Blvd West Los Angeles, CA 90025 (310)820-4328 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.50 58. LUKE KIM DDS General Practitioner 2617 Lincoln Blvd #207 Santa Monica, CA 90405 (310)581-2525 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.60 59. ARTIS A WHITE DDS General Practitioner 333 Crown Dr Los Angeles, CA 90049 (213)673-4490 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.71 60. FOROUZ BADRI DDS General Practitioner 11819 Wilshire Blvd Ste 208 Los Angeles, CA 90025 (310)914-9246 Get a Map and Driving Directions Distance: 2.79 >-Weezie Drop the PPO and pay out of pocket  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Hello everyone. It's Luiza again, and this time I really need your help > IRL. I've been going to this dentist almost weekly since November (yes [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > -Weezie Call the local component of California Dental Association and request a referral. I believe it is the Los Angeles Component but it may be Western Component. Or call the San Fernando Valley Component. SignatureGregory P. Cole, B.S., D.D.S. (Flap) www.smilesforalifetime.com Flaps Dental Blog http://flapsblog.blogspot.com/ Liberae sunt nostrae cogitationes > Drop the PPO and pay out of pocket > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> >> -Weezie Thank you Gregory, that is very helpful. -Luiza Hello everyone. It's Luiza again, and this time I really need your help IRL. I've been going to this dentist almost weekly since November (yes for 3 MONTHS!) You have been shown that dental work when nursing is dangerous. You didn't listen. Jan You are full of crap. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE as to how Jan munges the meaning of the post by not including who said what! JOEL ***************************** >Hello everyone. It's Luiza again, and this time I really need your help >IRL. I've been going to this dentist almost weekly since November (yes [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Jan Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry From: "weezie" <grsg...@aol.com> Date: 22 Jan 2005 19:52:24 -0800 Local: Sat, Jan 22 2005 7:52 pm Subject: Re: I NEED your help! You are full of crap I posted the science to HELP you. *I* didn't write the websites http://www.truestarhealth.com/members/cm_archives07ML4P1A5.html http://www.the7thfire.com/dental_amalgams.htm http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&... == Studies have shown that the number of mercury amalgams a person has directly correlates to the amount of mercury in the brain. Mercury toxicity has been associated with a number of health concerns, including memory loss, chronic bad breath, gingivitis, irregular heartbeat, allergies, asthma, chronic headaches, kidney damage, anemia, fatigue, joint pain and many others. Prenatal mercury exposure may lead to developmental problems in children, such as motor function disorders, and language and memory difficulties. Mercury is also a concern in breast-feeding mothers, since mercury may cross into the breast milk. === Scientific research has shown that dental amalgam is the chief source of mercury in the human body. For that reason Rep. Twomey described the bill as a major step forward for women of childbearing age and for children, who receive their first exposure to mercury in the womb and from their mother's breast milk. >http://www.algonet.se/~leif/FUSCIFCT.html 15. Mercury from amalgam is stored in the breast milk and the foetus up to >times more than the mother's tissues. (18,19) >16. Mercury (Mercury Vapour / Methylmercury) crosses the placenta.(18, 31) >17. Mercury Crosses into breast milk.(18,31,61) http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm http://www.cfsn.com/maz/ http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html http://www.toothwisdom.net/ http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A dead or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of removing the bacteria once they are in there. http://www.toothwisdom.net/ Toxicity from Root Canals The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source of toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful; however, the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic type fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the flow of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation is from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many more reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you want? Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are said to be the cadavers of the body. I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to their decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I respect this, and I always discuss the consequences. The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at the root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject. Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable substitution for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out against root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the patient make that decision after explaining all pros and cons. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - >California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry. >(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >private dental schools and training programs with more than nine >employees. The suit won the enforcement of Proposition 65, Safe Drinking >Water and Toxics Enforcement Act [Health & Safety Code § 25249.6]. >Proposition 65 requires that a clear and reasonable warning be provided to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >$2,500 per day. >Press may contact: Jackie Gladfelter at 650-218-1856 or D. Infusino at >415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111. >### Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry From: "weezie" <grsg...@aol.com> Date: 22 Jan 2005 22:36:21 -0800 Local: Sat, Jan 22 2005 10:36 pm Subject: Re: I NEED your help! I appreciate your concern, but I'd rather not lose my teeth. Sometimes, you just gotta do what you gotta do. Couldn't you wait? Think about it this way. No matter what I do while I'm b'feeding, my milk is STILL better than formula. Then you dismiss the studies. Now what are you going to say, mothers who feed their infants formula do so to their peril? You sound angry. You asked for help, I posted the studies. I have no desire to argue with you. It's your choice, it's also to the peril of your baby. Jan Luiza |
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