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carabelli - 17 Jan 2005 19:24 GMT
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Joel M. Eichen - 17 Jan 2005 20:38 GMT
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>carabelli

Thanks
Roy Brown - 18 Jan 2005 05:52 GMT
Find it hard to believe there would not be a noticeable hole or bleeding at the
point of insertion. No one has described the path  it took yet.

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Shirley Gutkowski RDH - 18 Jan 2005 14:37 GMT
>Find it hard to believe there would not be a noticeable hole or bleeding at
>the
>point of insertion. No one has described the path  it took yet.

I do too, Roy.  
There are a couple of things that occured to me that may explain things.

The head of the nail can close off the insertion site.
The speed of the nail from a fired nail gun creates some kind of friction/heat
that may have cauterized the wound as the nail entered.

Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
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Bammers5 - 18 Jan 2005 14:58 GMT
>>Find it hard to believe there would not be a noticeable hole or bleeding at
>>the
>>point of insertion. No one has described the path  it took yet.

If I understood one account correctly, it entered under his lip. And, as the
recipient of two nail injuries from a nail gun, it didn't bleed much.

Keith (kinda blushing after admitting that)
Matt - 18 Jan 2005 17:48 GMT
> The speed of the nail from a fired nail gun creates some kind of friction/heat
> that may have cauterized the wound as the nail entered.

Very imaginative.
Dr Steve - 18 Jan 2005 17:52 GMT
>> The speed of the nail from a fired nail gun creates some kind of
>> friction/heat
>> that may have cauterized the wound as the nail entered.
>
> Very imaginative.

and,,,,,,,,, Very unlikely
Joel M. Eichen - 18 Jan 2005 18:00 GMT
>>> The speed of the nail from a fired nail gun creates some kind of
>>> friction/heat
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>and,,,,,,,,, Very unlikely

I am wondering how anyone could get their mouth open wide enough to
get a nail gun thing into their mouth that could hold a four inch
nail.

Many patients cannot open wide enough to get in a small handpiece!
With a 1/4 inch bur!

Joel
W_B - 19 Jan 2005 19:56 GMT
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>carabelli

$100K ?

Hand me that claw hammer...
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W_B

Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
ares - 20 Jan 2005 23:59 GMT
That's what I was thinking!  I mean, what else would one do but pull it out
the way it went in?
ares

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> Take out the G'RBAGE
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Dr. Steve - 21 Jan 2005 21:06 GMT
>That's what I was thinking!  I mean, what else would one do but pull it out
>the way it went in?
>ares

Intra cranial hemorrhage
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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
W_B - 22 Jan 2005 03:28 GMT
>>That's what I was thinking!  I mean, what else would one do but pull it out
>>the way it went in?
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>..
>Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.

That would have already happened.
The meniges weren't pierced.

Judging from the radiographs that I saw...
suspect that the 'nail' pierced the inferior border
of the maxillary sinus, near the zygoma, and entered
the frontal sinus, completely missing the eye.

A lucky shot.

YMMV

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W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
Dr. Steve - 22 Jan 2005 04:24 GMT
>>>That's what I was thinking!  I mean, what else would one do but pull it out
>>>the way it went in?
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>
>YMMV

You may have a better account of what happened than what I read. the
article I saw said the wail was into his brain.
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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
 
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