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weezie - 29 Dec 2004 05:37 GMT Hello everyone. I was just wondering if dentists have any pet peeves when it comes to patients, or do they just take it all in stride because it takes a lot of patience to be a patient. I'll tell you one of my pet peeves as a dental consumer: 3 people scheduled at the same time. I was getting my root canal 2/3 done today, clocking in at 2 1/2 hours!!! GRRR.... Anyway, how about you guys?
-Weezie
Jan - 29 Dec 2004 07:01 GMT >Subject: Dentists' pet peeves >From: "weezie" grsgirl@aol.com [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >time. I was getting my root canal 2/3 done today, clocking in at 2 1/2 >hours!!! While you are nursing?
I guess the studies were dismissed.
To the peril of your baby.
Jan
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Dec 2004 13:29 GMT >>Subject: Dentists' pet peeves >>From: "weezie" grsgirl@aol.com [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Jan Jan, where does it say Weezie is a R.N. or an L.P.N.?
Joel
weezie - 29 Dec 2004 20:24 GMT Ok, praytell, what's wrong with root canals?
Joel M. Eichen - 29 Dec 2004 20:28 GMT >Ok, praytell, what's wrong with root canals? Nuttin' they are fine. A vital nerve is better but often there is no choice.
Joel
Adenosine - 29 Dec 2004 21:20 GMT >Ok, praytell, what's wrong with root canals? DON'T ASK!!!!
-- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ?
W_B - 30 Dec 2004 15:35 GMT >Ok, praytell, what's wrong with root canals? Nothing.
www.aae.org
-- W_B
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Joel M. Eichen - 30 Dec 2004 16:18 GMT >>Ok, praytell, what's wrong with root canals? > >Nothing. > >www.aae.org The only person harmed by YOUR root canals is Jan.
She is a shill for OFMS ........ Oral Maxillo Facial Surgeons ... they rip teeth.
She gets less commission.
Joel
Jan - 31 Dec 2004 01:40 GMT >Subject: Re: Dentists' pet peeves >From: W_B no_one@nowhere.net [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Nothing. Wrong.
>www.aae.org Organized dentistry who LIES.
http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm
http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm
http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html
http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html
http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm
http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm
http://www.cfsn.com/maz/
http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html
http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm
http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm
http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html
http://www.toothwisdom.net/
http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html
http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html
http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm
http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html
Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A dead or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of removing the bacteria once they are in there.
http://www.toothwisdom.net/
Toxicity from Root Canals
The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source of toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful; however, the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic type fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the flow of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation is from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many more reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you want? Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are said to be the cadavers of the body.
I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to their decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I respect this, and I always discuss the consequences.
The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at the root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject. Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable substitution for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out against root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the patient make that decision after explaining all pros and cons.
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>California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry.
>(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be >required to post a warning about the dangers of mercury in their dental >fillings. A California Superior court judge finalized the language for >the warning to be posted in dentists' offices here today.
>The warning will read as follows:
>Notice to Patients, Proposition 65:
>Warning on dental amalgams, used in many dental fillings, causes exposure >to mercury, a chemical known to the state of California to cause birth >defects or other reproductive harm.
>Root canal treatments and restorations including fillings, crowns and >bridges, use chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer.
>The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has studied the situation and >approved for use all dental restorative materials.
>Consult your dentist to determine which materials are appropriate for your >treatment.
>The exact language of the warning was argued and then finalized before >Superior Court Judge James A. Robertson II between the California Dental [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >mercury dental fillings and root canals. The agreement also allows non-CDA >dentists to opt in to the agreement and post the warning.
>The warning is the result of a lawsuit filed by The Law Offices of Shawn >Khorrami on behalf of As You Sow, a not-for-profit foundation dedicated to >advocacy and activism in the public interest.
>"This is the first admission by organized dentistry that amalgams pose a >potential health risk," says Shawn Khorrami, lead attorney. "The only >problem is that it's about 100 years too late."
>This California consent judgment follows on the heels of recent lawsuits >filed in Georgia, Texas, Ohio and Los Angeles, California charging that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >risks to certain users. Mercury, a highly toxic substance, is the most >widely used substance in dental fillings today.
>The use of mercury-based thimerosal in vaccines also has been the source >of the recent controversy in the Homeland Security legislation.
>Khorrami filed the lawsuit against Roger Fieldman D.D.S., Inc., the >Citadel Dental Group, Inc. dental offices, dental laboratories and >private dental schools and training programs with more than nine >employees. The suit won the enforcement of Proposition 65, Safe Drinking >Water and Toxics Enforcement Act [Health & Safety Code § 25249.6].
>Proposition 65 requires that a clear and reasonable warning be provided to >persons prior to their exposure to a chemical known to cause cancer or >reproductive harm. This statute lists mercury, contained in dental >amalgam, as a substance that can cause reproductive toxicity. The lawsuit >was based on the absence of warnings to patients treated with amalgam >restorative materials in dental offices.
>The judgment on Proposition 65 mandates that all dental offices with more >than nine employees provide warnings on the dangers of Mercury dental >fillings to patients. Those in non-compliance could incur a fine of up to >$2,500 per day.
>Press may contact: Jackie Gladfelter at 650-218-1856 or D. Infusino at >415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111.
>### Jan
Shad J. Lewis, DMD, MA - 30 Dec 2004 03:15 GMT Shut up.
> >Subject: Dentists' pet peeves >>From: "weezie" grsgirl@aol.com [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Jan Jan - 30 Dec 2004 04:01 GMT >Subject: Re: Dentists' pet peeves >From: "Shad J. Lewis, DMD, MA" shadlewis@comcast.net >Date: 12/29/2004 7:15 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <BYednRp3S5Jp707cRVn-2w@comcast.com> > >Shut up. Nice professional behavior, from one who can't answer questions.
Your selective words above were never allowed in my daycare centers.
===========
>Subject: Dentists' pet peeves >From: "weezie" grsgirl@aol.com [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >time. I was getting my root canal 2/3 done today, clocking in at 2 1/2 >hours!!! While you are nursing?
I guess the studies were dismissed.
To the peril of your baby.
Jan
http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm
http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm
http://www.whale.to/d/root2.html
http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html
http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm
http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm
http://www.cfsn.com/maz/
http://cnorman.best.vwh.net/blazing/dental.html
http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm
http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm
http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html
http://www.toothwisdom.net/
http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html
http://www.hugnet.com/Root_Canals.html
http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm
http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html
Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A dead or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of removing the bacteria once they are in there.
http://www.toothwisdom.net/
Toxicity from Root Canals
The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source of toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful; however, the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic type fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the flow of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation is from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many more reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you want? Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are said to be the cadavers of the body.
I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to their decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I respect this, and I always discuss the consequences.
The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at the root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject. Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable substitution for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out against root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the patient make that decision after explaining all pros and cons.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -
>California Judge Approves Landmark Warning on Mercury Use in Dentistry.
>(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be >required to post a warning about the dangers of mercury in their dental >fillings. A California Superior court judge finalized the language for >the warning to be posted in dentists' offices here today.
>The warning will read as follows:
>Notice to Patients, Proposition 65:
>Warning on dental amalgams, used in many dental fillings, causes exposure >to mercury, a chemical known to the state of California to cause birth >defects or other reproductive harm.
>Root canal treatments and restorations including fillings, crowns and >bridges, use chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer.
>The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has studied the situation and >approved for use all dental restorative materials.
>Consult your dentist to determine which materials are appropriate for your >treatment.
>The exact language of the warning was argued and then finalized before >Superior Court Judge James A. Robertson II between the California Dental [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >mercury dental fillings and root canals. The agreement also allows non-CDA >dentists to opt in to the agreement and post the warning.
>The warning is the result of a lawsuit filed by The Law Offices of Shawn >Khorrami on behalf of As You Sow, a not-for-profit foundation dedicated to >advocacy and activism in the public interest.
>"This is the first admission by organized dentistry that amalgams pose a >potential health risk," says Shawn Khorrami, lead attorney. "The only >problem is that it's about 100 years too late."
>This California consent judgment follows on the heels of recent lawsuits >filed in Georgia, Texas, Ohio and Los Angeles, California charging that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >risks to certain users. Mercury, a highly toxic substance, is the most >widely used substance in dental fillings today.
>The use of mercury-based thimerosal in vaccines also has been the source >of the recent controversy in the Homeland Security legislation.
>Khorrami filed the lawsuit against Roger Fieldman D.D.S., Inc., the >Citadel Dental Group, Inc. dental offices, dental laboratories and >private dental schools and training programs with more than nine >employees. The suit won the enforcement of Proposition 65, Safe Drinking >Water and Toxics Enforcement Act [Health & Safety Code § 25249.6].
>Proposition 65 requires that a clear and reasonable warning be provided to >persons prior to their exposure to a chemical known to cause cancer or >reproductive harm. This statute lists mercury, contained in dental >amalgam, as a substance that can cause reproductive toxicity. The lawsuit >was based on the absence of warnings to patients treated with amalgam >restorative materials in dental offices.
>The judgment on Proposition 65 mandates that all dental offices with more >than nine employees provide warnings on the dangers of Mercury dental >fillings to patients. Those in non-compliance could incur a fine of up to >$2,500 per day.
>Press may contact: Jackie Gladfelter at 650-218-1856 or D. Infusino at >415-225-7970; call Attorney Shawn Khorrami at 818-947-5111.
>### Jan
Joel M. Eichen - 30 Dec 2004 12:00 GMT >>Subject: Re: Dentists' pet peeves >>From: "Shad J. Lewis, DMD, MA" shadlewis@comcast.net [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Your selective words above were never allowed in my daycare centers. REPLY
As bnogus advice about root canal poisonings should not be allowed on the internet.
Joel
>=========== > [quoted text clipped - 180 lines] > >Jan carabelli - 30 Dec 2004 04:10 GMT > Shut up. Well, that *is* from a DFSACB that thinks her ISP pings are an attack on her computer.
Time to repost "Why"
carabelli
StovePipe - 31 Dec 2004 16:40 GMT > 3 people scheduled at the same > >time. I was getting my root canal 2/3 done today, clocking in at 2 1/2 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > To the peril of your baby. This last statement is pure, utter bullshit. This individual is not a dentist, nor even a dental assistant, yet 'she' has a pet peeve against traditional dentistry. Read her posts with a huge grain of salt. If the tooth is comfortable and the procedure is done correctly, you minimize any complications down the road. If the treatment is not completed and you start to experience pain, go back and have it looked at. HTH SP
 Signature Not a real Addy, yet
Steven Fawks - 01 Jan 2005 14:48 GMT Read her posts with a huge grain of salt.
> SP My 1 ton Silverado (dual rear wheels and 454) wouldn't be able to haul it!
Fawks
W_B - 01 Jan 2005 22:54 GMT >My 1 ton Silverado (dual rear wheels and 454) wouldn't be able to haul it! > >Fawks You don't own no 'du-lee'. Er else youda known how to pernounce it. Moist of 'em er at least 2 ter 3 and a half tun.
Ernieone runnin' garsoline beya fool cuz erybody knoz dat diesel gibs mo powa.
Mo stroke fer da poke.
-- W_B
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE
Steven Fawks - 02 Jan 2005 15:29 GMT I expect to be called a liar by J**, but now you're just about to piss me off.
(BTW, around here, it's 'du-el-ee')
;-) Fawks
>>My 1 ton Silverado (dual rear wheels and 454) wouldn't be able to haul it! >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE W_B - 03 Jan 2005 19:34 GMT >I expect to be called a liar by J**, but now you're just >about to piss me off. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >;-) >Fawks Okie-Dokie
Will stop about the 'du-el-ee' now. --
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Steven Fawks - 29 Dec 2004 15:12 GMT My biggest pet peeve is patients quoting advice from friends, relatives, and even strangers on the internet that is absolutely ridiculous and the people that continue to give that advice when it is pointed out that they are wrong to do so(especially aspersions about endangering others lives).
Out in the boonies, I am quite busy and often somewhat overbooked. I still try to keep waiting time to a minimum and I certainly want to get the treatment completed in a reasonable amount of time.
Molar root canals are usually completed (start to finish) in an hour.
However, if your treatment is well done, and you aren't having any complications, an extra hour isn't much in the whole scheme of things.
Best wishes, Fawks
> Hello everyone. I was just wondering if dentists have any pet peeves > when it comes to patients, or do they just take it all in stride [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -Weezie leaderdmd@juno.com - 29 Dec 2004 15:49 GMT I have two pet peeves.
1) Patients who make appointments and don't show up. I charge patients a small amount for the missed appointment if I can't fill it. That helps to defray my costs, but $40.00 for a missed half hour does not defray the $100.00 it actually costs to have a dental office open for that time. This behaviour is rude and inconsiderate. Also, it drives up the cost of dental treatment for all.
2) Physicians' advice. Medical doctors get very little training in dentistry. 8 hours of lecture or less depending on the school without any practical experience. With that in mind, where do they get off telling my patients not to bring a child in to see me until they are 4 or five years old, that pregnant women should not have their teeth cleaned or that partial dentures are bad for teeth? Rightfully, patients take physicians' advice seriously. Physicians should take giving advice just as seriously. If they want to advise patients about dentistry, they should study it.
Dave Leader, DMD Malden, Ma.
Robert Morien - 29 Dec 2004 17:45 GMT > I have two pet peeves. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that time. This behaviour is rude and inconsiderate. Also, it drives > up the cost of dental treatment for all. My dentist gets enraged when I bill him for missing my appointments. This behaviour is rude and inconsiderate and also drives up the cost of dental treatment for all
> 2) Physicians' advice. Medical doctors get very little training in > dentistry. 8 hours of lecture or less depending on the school without [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Dave Leader, DMD > Malden, Ma. weezie - 29 Dec 2004 22:51 GMT Are there any pet peeves when the patient is in the "chair"? Do most patients close their eyes, stare at you or the ceiling? Just wondering. -Weez
Dr Steve - 05 Jan 2005 18:53 GMT Back in Medieval Days, (before wearing loupes) patients would often look into my glasses and watch what I was doing in the reflection off my glasses.
 Signature ~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA ....................................................
This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ......................
> Are there any pet peeves when the patient is in the "chair"? Do most > patients close their eyes, stare at you or the ceiling? Just wondering. > -Weez Adenosine - 05 Jan 2005 20:16 GMT >Back in Medieval Days, (before wearing loupes) patients would often look >into my glasses and watch what I was doing in the reflection off my glasses. I guess that just means you need to get a scope + monitor so your patients can see you work again.
Heh heh heh....
-- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ?
weezie - 06 Jan 2005 03:22 GMT That sounds like fun... Although I'd probably keep my eyes closed. (I don't want to see!) My dentist was laughing at me because I would open my eyes and look at her when she wasn't working, but close them when she was working on me. I guess it's because I don't want to see what she's doing. Even though I can't see anyway!
-Weezie
JWN DDS - 29 Dec 2004 22:58 GMT 1. Patients who book to have work done then spend 3/4 of the time saying how they don't want to pay for anything. Advice? Don't book the appointment. Staying home is free.
2. Doctors, nurses, etc. Spend half the time questioning everything we say because that is different than what they've learned in school. Guess what? You never learned it.
3. Patients who no-show on the one evening shift you are open... then can't understand why they can't get into your most popular shift (evening) for 6 months because it is booked solid.
4. Patients who insist on a large MODBL restoration refusing to get the tooth crowned... then have the nerve to ask me why the restoration failed when they get the next fracture.
5. People who think it is our job to know their insurance policy like the back of our hand. Guess what? It isn't our job (hence me going off assignment).
6. I could go on but my lunch break is over.
All in all I love dentistry but a few patients are real jackasses.
jwn dds
W_B - 30 Dec 2004 15:46 GMT >All in all I love dentistry but a few patients are real jackasses. > >jwn dds I only get peeved when the patient doesn't pay for services rendered.
Then they get to go to small claims court.
-- W_B
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE
Joel M. Eichen - 30 Dec 2004 16:19 GMT >>All in all I love dentistry but a few patients are real jackasses. >> >>jwn dds > >I only get peeved when the patient doesn't pay >for services rendered. WORSE! The patients who get the dentistry AND steal the insurance check.
THEY MAKE money going to the dentist.
Joel
>Then they get to go to small claims court. W_B - 30 Dec 2004 20:33 GMT >>I only get peeved when the patient doesn't pay >>for services rendered. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Joel They get to go to small claims court too.
>>Then they get to go to small claims court. -- W_B
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE
clintonz@prodigy.net - 30 Dec 2004 21:11 GMT Here is one doctor/dental
You call an office and the first thing an assistant screams in your ear DO YOU have insurance? I should say, why? If not will I be treated by doctor #2.
Next question. What is your ss #. Why do you need to know? "So we know that you are who you say are!"
Another Peeve:
Offices that make you fill out a long medical history including whether your second cousin had asthma and then don't even bother to read it.
Joel M. Eichen - 30 Dec 2004 21:27 GMT >>THEY MAKE money going to the dentist. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >>>Then they get to go to small claims court. What if they are "judgement proof?"
Joel
W_B - 01 Jan 2005 07:45 GMT >>>THEY MAKE money going to the dentist. >>>Joel [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Joel IME most have 'job supplied/supplement/benefit' dental insurance. So by definition, are not "judgement proof".
Garnish does not always refer to a condiment.
-- W_B
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE
Joel M. Eichen - 01 Jan 2005 13:09 GMT >>>>THEY MAKE money going to the dentist. >>>>Joel [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >IME most have 'job supplied/supplement/benefit' dental insurance. >So by definition, are not "judgement proof". Then its okay to sue. But you will have an extremely difficult time garnishing wages, for a small amount of money.
Our Prothonotary's Office is loaded with runners from law offices, and from the construction and other industries, who are looking through huge volumes, searching for PEOPLE with open (non-satisfied) judgements against them. Its wise not to do business with those people.
There are around then volumes, each from computer printouts, each one two feet by two feet, and around 12 inches thick. There was a guy who had a similar business offered to doctors/physicians/dentists. He provided similar information about "sueing-prone patients!"
Joel
Its updated montly.
>Garnish does not always refer to a condiment. The Real Paul - 03 Jan 2005 14:41 GMT You just brought up a bad memory for me...had a really nice single mom come in and get ~600.00 of composite fillings done..6 weeks or so goes by and we call the insurance co......they mailed the patient the check, and it has cleared! The patient is nowhere to be found....dammit, she stole my kids new shoe money
Sometimes the nicest people screw you real hard
> >>I only get peeved when the patient doesn't pay > >>for services rendered. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE Chester Drawers - 31 Dec 2004 00:21 GMT > Hello everyone. I was just wondering if dentists have any pet peeves > when it comes to patients, or do they just take it all in stride > because it takes a lot of patience to be a patient. I'll tell you one > of my pet peeves as a dental consumer: 3 people scheduled at the same > time. I was getting my root canal 2/3 done today, clocking in at 2 1/2 > hours!!! http://www.spec.com.au/display.asp?Id=4665
PATIENTS are facing a five-and-a-half-year wait for public dentistry services in Portland.
This month Portland District Health recorded the longest waiting list for Victoria, with a 66-month waiting list for both general dentistry and denture services.
"This is not a record we should be proud of," according to Member for South West Coast Denis Napthine.
He said it was an absolute disgrace that people who were pensioners and healthcare card holders had to wait more than five years for basic dental care.
StovePipe - 31 Dec 2004 16:40 GMT > He said it was an absolute disgrace that people who were pensioners and > healthcare card holders had to wait more than five years for basic dental > care. .... Time for your government to stop being so cheap, and inject money into the system. Why is this going on? Because dentists cannot afford to work for the low wages paid for these dental care programs. The Real World SP
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Dr. Steve - 03 Jan 2005 04:10 GMT >Hello everyone. I was just wondering if dentists have any pet peeves >when it comes to patients, or do they just take it all in stride [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >-Weezie Patients who don't show up and don't pay. .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA
I am writing on a Tablet-PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my handwriting.
Joel M. Eichen - 03 Jan 2005 13:59 GMT >>time. I was getting my root canal 2/3 done today, clocking in at 2 1/2 >>hours!!! GRRR.... Anyway, how about you guys? >> >>-Weezie > >Patients who don't show up and don't pay. YUP, those are two biggies!
Joel
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