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Metal posts in crowns

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lynrennick2000@aol.com - 21 Dec 2004 18:31 GMT
Hi,

Can anyone tell me what metal(s) are used for the posts in crowns
please?

Thank you.

Lyn
Etukee - 21 Dec 2004 18:41 GMT
Lyn, it depends on what the dentist prescribed.
elizzy
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Dec 2004 19:59 GMT
>Lyn, it depends on what the dentist prescribed.
>elizzy

IF cast of course ,,, if pre-fabricated, then it comes as it is.
The Real Paul - 21 Dec 2004 19:12 GMT
I put in titanium posts, I'm sure there are many other types of metals used

> Hi,
>
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> Lyn
CWatters - 21 Dec 2004 19:22 GMT
> I put in titanium posts, I'm sure there are many other types of metals used

Out of interest...

Is it safe to have an NMR/MRI scan with metal in your head? Big magnets and
all that.
lynrennick2000@aol.com - 21 Dec 2004 19:48 GMT
That's a thought! Surely the hospitals would ask about fillings if it
wasn't safe...but then again....they stuff amalgams in our mouths
without telling us there's mercury in them! I'm curious now about this
one myself! It's not so much the fillings but the metal posts if one
has a lot of crowns which I'm wondering about.

Lyn

> I put in titanium posts, I'm sure there are many other types of metals
used

Out of interest...

Is it safe to have an NMR/MRI scan with metal in your head? Big magnets
and
all that.
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Dec 2004 20:02 GMT
>That's a thought! Surely the hospitals would ask about fillings if it
>wasn't safe...but then again....they stuff amalgams in our mouths
>without telling us there's mercury in them! I'm curious now about this
>one myself! It's not so much the fillings but the metal posts if one
>has a lot of crowns which I'm wondering about.

They frequently put you on the tilting table and then tilt it upside
down ... if mercury starts dribbling out of the corner of your mouth,
then there is mercury fillings in there .....

Mercury is liquid at room temerature and therefore can only be used on
lower teeth as it drips out of uppers way too fast.

They once tried using frozen mercury for fillings but then if you ate
Popsicles a lot, they would constantly stick to the cold surface.

NO GOOD.

Joel

>Lyn
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>and
>all that.
lynrennick2000@aol.com - 21 Dec 2004 21:28 GMT
lol lol Good one Joel.

Not sure what's going on with the postings, but your first two didn't
show up until after your third one here. I was wondering where you
were.....this one gave me a great laugh. lol lol I sure needed
it.Thanks for cheering me up. The prospect of a Christmas without my
soulmate with me has really brought me down lately (he died in
July)...I needed a laugh and this gave me one. Thanks. :-)

Lyn

>That's a thought! Surely the hospitals would ask about fillings if it
>wasn't safe...but then again....they stuff amalgams in our mouths
>without telling us there's mercury in them! I'm curious now about this
>one myself! It's not so much the fillings but the metal posts if one
>has a lot of crowns which I'm wondering about.

They frequently put you on the tilting table and then tilt it upside
down ... if mercury starts dribbling out of the corner of your mouth,
then there is mercury fillings in there .....

Mercury is liquid at room temerature and therefore can only be used on
lower teeth as it drips out of uppers way too fast.

They once tried using frozen mercury for fillings but then if you ate
Popsicles a lot, they would constantly stick to the cold surface.
NO GOOD.

Joel
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Dec 2004 22:09 GMT
>lol lol Good one Joel.
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>
>Lyn

Sorry to hear that .......

Joel

>>That's a thought! Surely the hospitals would ask about fillings if it
>>wasn't safe...but then again....they stuff amalgams in our mouths
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>Joel
Ued - 21 Dec 2004 23:46 GMT
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> > I put in titanium posts, I'm sure there are many other types of
> metals
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> That's a thought! Surely the hospitals would ask about fillings if it
> wasn't safe...

I had an MRI once.  They asked about "any sort of metal whatsoever",
which would include fillings.

But to answer the question: Yes, it's safe to have an MRI with fillings
in your mouth.  Even if you have a lot of them.

> It's not so much the fillings but the metal posts if one
> has a lot of crowns which I'm wondering about.

It's safe with stainless steel crowns.  Been there, done that.

But what about implants?  Those are much larger than the posts used with
crowns.  It would sure suck to have the magnets in the MRI machine rip
one of those out of your head, huh.
W_B - 22 Dec 2004 16:56 GMT
>But what about implants?  Those are much larger than the posts used with
>crowns.  It would sure suck to have the magnets in the MRI machine rip
>one of those out of your head, huh.

Titanium is non magnetic.
--

W_B

Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Ued - 24 Dec 2004 04:13 GMT
> >But what about implants?  Those are much larger than the posts used with
> >crowns.  It would sure suck to have the magnets in the MRI machine rip
> >one of those out of your head, huh.
>
> Titanium is non magnetic.

Alloys sometimes are, to some degree, and dental implants are not
necessarily 100% titanium.  But apparently the problem is more of
"artifacts" appearing on the MRI output, rather than having the magnets
in the machine move the implant itself.  (So the doc interpreting the
scan needs to know about the implant in order to draw an accurate
conclusion.)
The Real Paul - 21 Dec 2004 19:53 GMT
Well I do know that brain stents will keep you out of the MRI machine. I
guess they can be magnetic and could tear through tissue if given enough
magnetic attraction. Of course they have you remove any external metal such
as earrings. As far as metal like posts and such in you teeth, I don't think
your tooth is going to come flying out and stick to the MRI.

> > I put in titanium posts, I'm sure there are many other types of metals
> used
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> Is it safe to have an NMR/MRI scan with metal in your head? Big magnets and
> all that.
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Dec 2004 20:35 GMT
>Well I do know that brain stents will keep you out of the MRI machine. I
>guess they can be magnetic and could tear through tissue if given enough
>magnetic attraction. Of course they have you remove any external metal such
>as earrings. As far as metal like posts and such in you teeth, I don't think
>your tooth is going to come flying out and stick to the MRI.

I guess you have not seen the posts I put in ......

HUMOR .... I actually do good posts.

EVERYTHING ELSE still undertermined.

Joel

>> > I put in titanium posts, I'm sure there are many other types of metals
>> used
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>and
>> all that.
W_B - 21 Dec 2004 19:58 GMT
>> I put in titanium posts, I'm sure there are many other types of metals
>used
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>Is it safe to have an NMR/MRI scan with metal in your head? Big magnets and
>all that.

You only have to worry about ferrous metals and rare earth magnets.
--

W_B

Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Steven Fawks - 21 Dec 2004 19:39 GMT
I don't use very many posts anymore.  They do not strengthen the
tooth.  I used to use stainless steel or titanium.  Now I use
resin fiber when they are indicated to help retain the build up material.

Fawks

> Hi,
>
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>
> Lyn
The Real Paul - 21 Dec 2004 19:54 GMT
I use a paper clip or old dental drill bit when I'm running short on
supplies.

<jk>

> I don't use very many posts anymore.  They do not strengthen the
> tooth.  I used to use stainless steel or titanium.  Now I use
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> >
> > Lyn
lynrennick2000@aol.com - 21 Dec 2004 20:19 GMT
Hi Steven,

Does that mean that a person can have a crown which does not contain
any metal at all, so it's safe for people with metal allergies?

Thanks.

Lyn

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I don't use very many posts anymore. They do not strengthen the
tooth. I used to use stainless steel or titanium. Now I use
resin fiber when they are indicated to help retain the build up
material.

Fawks

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> Hi,

> Can anyone tell me what metal(s) are used for the posts in crowns
> please?

> Thank you.

> Lyn

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Steven Fawks - 21 Dec 2004 22:01 GMT
> Hi Steven,
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>
> Lyn

Yes, there are crowns without metal.  I would recommend an NTI device if
you had them placed on posterior teeth.

Most metal allergies relate to Nickel.  This metal is easily avoided in
the construction of porcelain fused to metal crowns.  Just specify a
'high noble' alloy.

JMO,
Fawks
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Dec 2004 19:59 GMT
>Hi,
>
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>
>Lyn

YUP, first of all, carbon polymer is better ....... of the metals, we
have DENTATUS titanium and DENTATUS gold plated ......

We have lots of steel posts (stainless)...

And there are custom cast gold posts ......

Joel
lynrennick2000@aol.com - 21 Dec 2004 20:15 GMT
Thanks for the replies...I'd appreciate some more if possible. :-)
Lyn

Can anyone tell me what metal(s) are used for the posts in crowns
Dr Steve - 21 Dec 2004 20:27 GMT
Aluminum, gold, silver, nickel, stainless, fiberglass, composite, resin,
carbon fiber, acrylic, platinum, titanium, brass, copper, amalgam,
palladium, chromium, and others.  Why do you ask?

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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
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> Thanks for the replies...I'd appreciate some more if possible. :-)
> Lyn
>
> Can anyone tell me what metal(s) are used for the posts in crowns
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Dec 2004 20:17 GMT
This is from Sue,,,,,,

Member   Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 627  

no... and yes.

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Will the MR imaging affect the fillings in my teeth?

No, MR imaging will not cause fillings in your teeth, if in proper
condition, to dislodge or come out. The metal in most fillings is not
affected by the MR system's magnetic field. However, the fillings may
cause some distortion of the images if you are having a scan of your
neck, brain or facial area.

Can I have an MR exam if I have braces on my teeth?
Patients with braces may receive an MR imaging examination. However,
if you have braces and need MR imaging of your brain or facial area,
the MR system may have difficulty "tuning" to your body. The MR tuning
process is similar to tuning a radio to a specific frequency or radio
station. This tuning process can be "confused" if the patient has
metal in his or her body, particularly if the metal is in the area
being imaged. Unfortunately, there is no way to know in advance how
much distortion from braces may result on MR images of the head, face
or upper neck.


>Hi,
>
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>Lyn
The Webby - 21 Dec 2004 20:47 GMT
And for people with metal temporomandibular joint replacements, the MRI
for brain study is more than not an option.  My decision making process
included this "problem" back in 1991/1992.  However, there was hope that
technology advancement over my lifetime might resolve this issue but I
had to accept this limitation for many years to come.

TW

> This is from Sue,,,,,,
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> >Lyn
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Dec 2004 20:21 GMT
True,

Fillings are not iron. Iron is magnetic, fillings are not.

If you have IRON fillings and you get MRI, then you quickly learn the
meaning of the term, FERROUS WHEEL."

OVERHEARD IN THE MRI WAITING ROOM:

ONE LADY: "My son's in-laws are in the iron and steel business."

SECOND LADY: "Yeah her mother irons and her father steals."

Joel

>Hi,
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>Lyn
 
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