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Rockyboy - 18 Dec 2004 20:38 GMT
Hello all new and old smd:ers !

Whow, just checking in on you guys.

Can't believe Joel is still bickering with Jan!
How're you by the way?
So, what's been happening here while I was away?

Hans in Sweden
Tim Dixon - 18 Dec 2004 20:52 GMT
> Hello all new and old smd:ers !
>
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>
> Hans in Sweden

Hello my friend Hans... Good to hear from you!

Tim
Rockyboy - 24 Dec 2004 06:20 GMT
Hi Steve!

Good hearing from you again. How is the wife and little Sal ...?
And the cat ok?
And the cars ... any ? ;-)
What about a new get-to-gether?

Merry X-mas

Hans
Dr. Steve - 24 Dec 2004 15:45 GMT
>Hi Steve!
>
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>
>Hans

Hi Hans,

If you are coming this way, I will host a meeting again. It would be
well worth it

Salvatore is 9 years old and doing well. He is very excited about
tonight. I think Santa Claus is going to spoil him again.  He is
taking violin lessons as well as his full load of school work. I try
to speak of you, to him from time to time so that he will remember.

Buddy-Marie (the parrot) is fine and still very loud.

We miss you!

Steve
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.
Vaughn - 18 Dec 2004 20:59 GMT
> Hello all new and old smd:ers !
>
> Whow, just checking in on you guys.
>
> Can't believe Joel is still bickering with Jan!

    Believe it!

> How're you by the way?

    Just great!  How about you?

> So, what's been happening here while I was away?

    Pretty much the same old stuff.

> Hans in Sweden

    Really great to hear from you Hans.  Welcome back.   (you are staying
aren't you?)

Happy holidays;
Vaughn
Dr. Steve - 18 Dec 2004 21:04 GMT
>> Hello all new and old smd:ers !
>>
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>Happy holidays;
>Vaughn

It would be great to spend time together with Hans again!

In the meantime, we will be in Port St, Lucie during New Years. If
you have spare time during the long week-end, let me know.

..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.
Roy Brown - 18 Dec 2004 22:20 GMT
| > Hello all new and old smd:ers !
| >
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
| Happy holidays;
| Vaughn

Ditto, plus give Rocky a scratch behind the ear for me.

Roy
Rockyboy - 24 Dec 2004 07:05 GMT
Hi Roy,

Thanks. And do not forget to say Hello to Molly from me. Last time I
saw her she tried to kiss me in my cheek. Pretty tough female, that
one! ;- ) And then she licked me in the ear. That was nice.

For those of you who don't know, NO this Molly is not Roy's wife .... !

It is his rather big willful strong dog !

And say hello to the missis from me, too, Roy!
May you have a Merry X-mas!

Hans
Rockyboy - 24 Dec 2004 06:25 GMT
Hi Vaughn,

I wouldn't be surprised if Joel and Jan are married and sitting in
seperated rooms at home solving their marital problems. Or laughing
their hearts out ...

Yes, I will be hangong out here a while. Just now it is X-mas computer
intermission :-)

Merry X-mas !

Hans
Jan - 24 Dec 2004 06:59 GMT
>Subject: Re: SMD re-visited
>From: "Rockyboy" hans.lennros@swipnet.se
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>seperated rooms at home solving their marital problems. Or laughing
>their hearts out ...

LOL.  NOT  NOT  NOT
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Dec 2004 13:18 GMT
>Hi Vaughn,
>
>I wouldn't be surprised if Joel and Jan are married and sitting in
>seperated rooms at home solving their marital problems. Or laughing
>their hearts out ...

OR one person!

Would that be a hoot!

Joel

Hi Hans.

>Yes, I will be hangong out here a while. Just now it is X-mas computer
>intermission :-)
>
>Merry X-mas !
>
>Hans
Dr. Steve - 18 Dec 2004 20:59 GMT
>Hello all new and old smd:ers !
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Hans in Sweden

Hello good friend!
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.
Joel M. Eichen - 18 Dec 2004 21:15 GMT
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.211.126.234
>Mime-Version: 1.0
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>
>Hello all new and old smd:ers !

Hi Hans!

Yup same old same old.

PS- This is the real Hans. I tracerted him right here:

http://www.telia.com/ts/teliasonera/start.do?start=http://www.telia.com/

SWEDEN.

Joel
Rockyboy - 24 Dec 2004 06:31 GMT
Hi Joel,

Still going strong?

You wrote:
> I tracerted him right here:

Thank you for telling everyone. you're not so bad yourself with over
10,000 hits at Google:
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=joel+eichen&meta=

(tracerted ...?  what happened to you English ... not another stroke?)
Enjoy X-mas!

Hans
Jan - 24 Dec 2004 07:02 GMT
>Subject: Re: SMD re-visited
>From: "Rockyboy" hans.lennros@swipnet.se
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>10,000 hits at Google:
>http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=joel+eichen&meta=

Look again.

Google search Joel Eichen Jan Drew 4,100

Joel Eichen Jan 13,300

Joel Eichen Janster 438

Joel Eichen Janny 17

Joel Eichen JanBrewski 478

Joel Eichen Drewster 37

Joel Eichen Jannypoo 86

Joel Eichen JanDrew 481

jdrew63...@yahoo.com (impersonation) 410

Janie 14

Brewski 48

Jan Brewski On Anal Sex 12

Jan coffee enemas 145
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Dec 2004 13:19 GMT
>Hi Joel,
>
>Still going strong?

Not really. I believe we have said most everything that can be said at
SMD.

And the newer generation of computer users cannot even find NNTP.

So it goes. Its still a place for lots of comraderie. By the way, how
is Doxadent? Any further word over there about it?

Joel

>You wrote:
>> I tracerted him right here:
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>
>Hans
clintonz@prodigy.net - 18 Dec 2004 22:02 GMT
Hans,

What is the current state of amalgam in Sweden and Germany? Can you
also tell me when it was first removed from use in those countries?
Rockyboy - 24 Dec 2004 07:00 GMT
Amalgam is not illegal, but it is not accepted.

It also gives a dentist a bad rep and showes s/he hasen't kept up to
date. Patients expect 'bad dentistry' in general at the amalgam users,
so no one dares to mention they use it. Even if they do. All in all,
the debate in Scandinavia is pretty much over.

We know mercury in human body comes from amalgam fillings in teeth:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=11799732

and it increases after amalgam is placed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=11778667

We know it is toxic:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=14651282

even if many are not affected. We know it gives more reactions thatn
other materials:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=12752546

and it causes electric currents in the mouth:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=12628436

and that is unsuitable for humans:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=12018634


Especially in Sweden amalgam is NOT used. one study showed that the
majority of Danish dentists suggested amalgam for restoring the
occlusal surface, while every fifth Norwegian dentist and just 3 % of
Swedish dentists suggests amalgam.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra
ct&list_uids=11318041

I think it is a matter of time in all countries.

Hans
Jan - 24 Dec 2004 07:12 GMT
>Subject: Re: SMD re-visited
>From: "Rockyboy" hans.lennros@swipnet.se
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt
=Abstract&list_uids=11778667
>We know it is toxic:
>
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt
=Abstract&list_uids=14651282
>even if many are not affected. We know it gives more reactions thatn
>other materials:
>
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt
=Abstract&list_uids=12752546
>and it causes electric currents in the mouth:
>
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt
=Abstract&list_uids=12628436
>and that is unsuitable for humans:
>
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt
=Abstract&list_uids=12018634

>Especially in Sweden amalgam is NOT used. one study showed that the
>majority of Danish dentists suggested amalgam for restoring the
>occlusal surface, while every fifth Norwegian dentist and just 3 % of
>Swedish dentists suggests amalgam.
>
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt
=Abstract&list_uids=11318041
>I think it is a matter of time in all countries.
>
>Hans

Fantastic! A delight to see you back posting the *truth*

Jan
Joel M. Eichen - 24 Dec 2004 13:21 GMT
>Amalgam is not illegal, but it is not accepted.

Same here. If you WANT amalgam, you can get it, but if you pick a
random dentist as from a plan, and you get a treatment plan, I doubt
you will find amalgam there. The first choice may be composite or
crown or CEREC.

Joel
Steven Bornfeld - 18 Dec 2004 23:36 GMT
> Hello all new and old smd:ers !
>
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>
> Hans in Sweden

    The actual, real Hans?  How yu dune, guy?
    Happy holidays to you and yours.

Steve
Rockyboy - 24 Dec 2004 07:07 GMT
Hi Steven,

Yupp, the actual real one in person!
Haappy X-mas to you too, and yours!

Hans
The Webby - 19 Dec 2004 00:59 GMT
> Hello all new and old smd:ers !
>
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>
> Hans in Sweden

Hans!!!!!  It's great to see you around.  I hope you're planning on
staying awhile.  Would love to find email in my box from you!  (Remove
the "anti-spam" and you'll have my current address.)

Webby :-)
Rockyboy - 24 Dec 2004 07:09 GMT
Hi Webby,

How are you? Been thinking a lot about you. Sorry I missed you when I
was in your neck-of-the-woods. Another time.

I mail you after the holidays when everything has calmed down.
MERRY X-MAS !

Hans
Jan - 19 Dec 2004 02:28 GMT
>Subject: SMD re-visited
>From: "Rockyboy" hans.lennros@swipnet.se
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Hans in Sweden

Hello Hans!!

Good to hear from you.

Still the same ole same ole lies being told here.

Dr Steve got himself caught in his own trap.

Joel still blathering.

Jan
Advocate147 - 19 Dec 2004 02:34 GMT
"Creativity".

Can't believe  I wrote that.
An apology is in order and
I do apologize.

Gail
W_B - 19 Dec 2004 20:12 GMT
>"Creativity".
>
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>
>Gail

Are you talking to me ?

--
W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
Advocate147 - 19 Dec 2004 20:47 GMT
W. B.

Yes, I do apologize to you.  

Gail
W_B - 19 Dec 2004 23:24 GMT
>W. B.
>
>Yes, I do apologize to you.  
>
>Gail

Accepted in the true spirit of the holidays, and a heart felt meaning.

May disagree with you, but I don't hate anyone.
IMO *hate* is a waste of time and human emotion.

Bless you, and I hope that you abolish the Dz from your body.
Don't hang on to it, let it go little sister.

--
W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
Joel M. Eichen - 20 Dec 2004 00:27 GMT
>May disagree with you, but I don't hate anyone.
>IMO *hate* is a waste of time and human emotion.

So is what came from your keyboard since Friday evening .......

Any explanations?

Joel
Joel M. Eichen - 19 Dec 2004 11:43 GMT
>Joel still blathering.
>
>Jan

Lathering what?
Rockyboy - 24 Dec 2004 06:18 GMT
Hiya Tim!

Good hearing from you. Are you still living abouts where you used to?
How are the folks we know doing?

Merry X-mas !

Hans
carabelli - 24 Dec 2004 15:40 GMT
Hi Hans,

Merry Christmas

carabelli
Steven Fawks - 26 Dec 2004 14:22 GMT
Ditto for me.

:-)
Fawks

> Hi Hans,
>
> Merry Christmas
>
> carabelli
Tim Dixon - 25 Dec 2004 16:23 GMT
> Hiya Tim!
>
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>
> Hans

Merry Christmas to you as well Hans!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes I am still living on the coast and everyone is doing great.  Sorry to
have missed you on your last trip.

Peace and Blessings,

Tim
 
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