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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / December 2004Spa Dentistry?
I'd just like some feedback on how people feel about dentists who use back massagers on their chairs, aromatherapy, etc. in their offices. Is this just a fad or does it show patients that we really are concerned about their comfort? > I'd just like some feedback on how people feel about dentists who use > back massagers on their chairs, aromatherapy, etc. in their offices. Is > this just a fad or does it show patients that we really are concerned > about their comfort? I think it is cheesy. I am sure there is an audience for it, but to me it seems idiotic. If I went to me physician to seek care for a condition, and they seemed more concerned with atmosphere, I'd find another office. (Yes Mr. Smith, what scent of candle would you like burning while we lance that boil on your a.s?) I think it cheapens the profession and brings it down to the level of a nail or hair salon. As a rather cynical consumer, it also makes me wonder why the office feels the need to resort to such tactics to sell their dentistry. Then again, I'm not your target audience...and I am sure there are many people who would just love the pampering and be willing to pay a lot extra for it! As for "being concerned for their comfort", I am sure most people, even those who like it, will see it as selling a service, not as a genuine concern for comfort. Puuuuhhhleeeze! T >> I'd just like some feedback on how people feel about dentists who use >> back massagers on their chairs, aromatherapy, etc. in their offices. Is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >more concerned with atmosphere, I'd find another office. (Yes Mr. Smith, what >scent of candle would you like burning while we lance that boil on your a.s?) Why? We used to be a cut above chiropractors. Why not let them back up on top for a while. Its only fair. Joel >I think it cheapens the profession and brings it down to the level of a nail or >hair salon. As a rather cynical consumer, it also makes me wonder why the office [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >T >I'd just like some feedback on how people feel about dentists who use >back massagers on their chairs, aromatherapy, etc. in their offices. Is >this just a fad or does it show patients that we really are concerned >about their comfort? Its cool. Some of them are doing so well they stopped filling teeth, extracting teeth, making dentures and bridgework and everything except they are selling the special toothpaste ...... Joel >I'd just like some feedback on how people feel about dentists who use >back massagers on their chairs, aromatherapy, etc. in their offices. Is >this just a fad or does it show patients that we really are concerned >about their comfort? What do you think ? Wanna bet a Benjamin that the fees are higher at a "spa" ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>I'd just like some feedback on how people feel about dentists who use >>back massagers on their chairs, aromatherapy, etc. in their offices. Is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Wanna bet a Benjamin that the fees are higher at a "spa" ? Funny thing is patients do not mind. They would rather pay an extra $5 for prophy and get a cheezy forty cent toothbrush with the doc's name on it. Joel I would hardly call a massage chair and a few candles a spa. It's either scented candles or lisol which makes some people nausiated. A massage chair is useful especially if you are doing a full mouth case, it helps the patient sit in one spot and prevent "chair sores" keeping that circulation going. Now these dentists who hire a massage therapist, mud packs, colics, etc... that is a niche market which is already getting old. Who wants to bet you are going to see a lot more of these spa wanna be dental offices? People do not have originality any more. >I would hardly call a massage chair and a few candles a spa. >It's either scented candles or lisol which makes some people nausiated. >A massage chair is useful especially if you are doing a full mouth >case, it helps the patient sit in one spot and prevent "chair sores" >keeping that circulation going. I did a crown preparation with the massaging chair turned on high but the lab guy refused it because it had too many ripples and waves in it. Joel >Now these dentists who hire a massage therapist, mud packs, colics, >etc... that is a niche market which is already getting old. >Who wants to bet you are going to see a lot more of these spa wanna be >dental offices? People do not have originality any more. "Spa dentistry" is really an umbrella term. Some would argue that "spa dentistry" only encompasses places which offer actual spa treatments, such as massages or manicures etc. But the term is used much more loosely to refer to dental offices which make an effort to make the dental experience more pleasant. Perhaps the best piece of writing I've come across in relation to "spa" dentistry is the following article in "Dental Economics": http://de.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=CURRI&ARTICLE_ID=2019 21&VERSION_NUM=1&p=55 I think any effort to make dentistry more fun is to be applauded. I also reckon that good dentistry and "spa" dentistry in its broadest sense are not mutually exclusive by any means. > "Spa dentistry" is really an umbrella term. Some would argue that "spa > dentistry" only encompasses places which offer actual spa treatments, > such as massages or manicures etc. But the term is used much more > loosely to refer to dental offices which make an effort to make the > dental experience more pleasant. Your definition is typical of modern dental marketing where people like to pretend they have invented the wheels that have been spinning for years. These days we hear and see terms like "Family" or "cosmetic" dentistry, but what came before? Were there practices that refused to treat families? Wasn't dentistry always concerned with cosmetics? Your interpretation of "spa dentistry" is just a new word for something that has been ongoing for years. Interesting you chose a reference from DE, which in my mind one of the biggest purveyors of this brand of BS. I think serving milkshakes in one's office is silly, but I have no doubt some people like it. I am a bit disturbed, however, by this statement... "If you offer nitrous oxide in your practice, look at those clinical members who never forget to offer it to your patients. They will most likely be your most capable spa facilitators."... I think nitrous should be used when clinically necessary, not peddled as a marketing enhancer or mood setter by some one characterized as a "facilitator". Like I said before, I think all this crap lends a circus atmosphere to our profession. I wouldn't like it as a patient and quite frankly, I am embarrassed by it as a dentist. T What I was really trying to say is that for a lot of people, removing the "clinical environment" factor puts them at ease. In my own personal opinion, environmental anchors are one of the biggest factors in dental fear, and removing them makes things easier for the practitioner. > > "Spa dentistry" is really an umbrella term. Some would argue that "spa > > dentistry" only encompasses places which offer actual spa treatments, [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > T > What I was really trying to say is that for a lot of people, removing > the "clinical environment" factor puts them at ease. In my own personal > opinion, environmental anchors are one of the biggest factors in dental > fear, and removing them makes things easier for the practitioner. I agree with this completely. I don't think making people comfortable is a new idea....but if you read articles on the subject, it sometimes sounds that way. T No, the idea itself isn't new, but sadly missing from many dental offices. Otherwise, why would most people find the idea of "spa" dentistry (in its broadest sense) novel? > I agree with this completely. I don't think making people comfortable is a new > idea....but if you read articles on the subject, it sometimes sounds that way. > > T >No, the idea itself isn't new, but sadly missing from many dental >offices. Otherwise, why would most people find the idea of "spa" >dentistry (in its broadest sense) novel? People have changed. America has gone soft. Manufacturing is dead. We all lose. I hate service jobs ~ people sucking up for tips and stuff. Joel >> I agree with this completely. I don't think making people comfortable >is a new >> idea....but if you read articles on the subject, it sometimes sounds >that way. >> >> T >People have changed. Of course. >America has gone soft. Maybe, but I don't think you want even one US Marine on your tail. >Manufacturing is dead. No, it is not. >We all lose. Only liberals lose. >I hate service jobs ~ people sucking up for tips and stuff. So dentistry is a 'manufacturing' job ? Yeah, sure Joel lived on 'tips' HA ! JME you are so full of it that your eyes are brown. >Joel -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>People have changed. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >No, it is not. For the literal minded amongst us ,,,,, MEANINGFUL manufacturing is dead. Michael Moore, in "Roger and Me," was informed that yes, some of the GM plants in Michigan had closed, but that small entrepreneurs such as the guy who makes the double-sided adhesive tape that removes lint from clothes were thriving. Moore asked, "Yes, but do you think this will replace GM?" Ask Steve Mancusoi. I am sure he knows plenty about GM. Joel >>We all lose. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >>Joel >>JME you are so full of it that your eyes are brown. Bahahaha! I haven't heard that since I stopped associating with my mother. Are you related to her, Joel? >>>JME you are so full of it that your eyes are brown. > >Bahahaha! I haven't heard that since I stopped associating with my >mother. Are you related to her, Joel? REPLY Am I related to your mother? No, I do not think so! Joel >>>>JME you are so full of it that your eyes are brown. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Joel ITYM 'relations' with Wooly's mother -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>No, it is not. > >For the literal minded amongst us ,,,,, MEANINGFUL manufacturing is >dead. Really ? Who manufactured your automobile, furniture, carpet, or wood flooring. Whoops where did the 2x4 studs come from ? >Michael Moore, in "Roger and Me," Joel, do you actually believe anything that ugly fat a.s propagandist says? >Moore asked, "Yes, but do you think this will replace GM?" Toyota even has a manufacturing plant in the US. >Ask Steve Mancusoi. I am sure he knows plenty about GM. You don't have any respect for SMs' name either, do you ? >Joel What country has the highest manufacturing rate of steel ? Where do the raw materials come from ? Lumber ? That is another parallel story. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >What country has the highest manufacturing rate of steel ? Japan, last time I bothered to notice. >Where do the raw materials come from ? American junk yards. >> What country has the highest manufacturing rate of steel ? > Japan, last time I bothered to notice. Look again. >> Where do the raw materials come from ? > American junk yards. Only some of them. Its just one source of raw materials for steel. >>What country has the highest manufacturing rate of steel ? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >American junk yards. Ahh yes, the best recycling has been an industry for a very long time. Beats digging iron ore out of the ground. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>No, it is not. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Joel, do you actually believe anything that ugly fat a.s >propagandist says? As with all I read or see, I uise it to expand my own thinking. Yes, the automobile manufacturing has been harmed by corporate interests.. Joel >>Moore asked, "Yes, but do you think this will replace GM?" > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >You don't have any respect for SMs' name either, do you ? What does that mean? That is not understandable, Dude. >>Joel >> >What country has the highest manufacturing rate of steel ? >Where do the raw materials come from ? > >Lumber ? That is another parallel story. >>Joel, do you actually believe anything that ugly fat a.s >>propagandist says? > >As with all I read or see, I uise it to expand my own thinking. JME you are stupider than everyone says you are. Will wonders never cease ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>Joel, do you actually believe anything that ugly fat a.s >>>propagandist says? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Will wonders never cease ? You back on the bottle already? Joel >Really ? Who manufactured your automobile, furniture, carpet, or >wood flooring. Whoops where did the 2x4 studs come from ? So you believe there is MORE manufacturing today than 30 years ago. right? Joel >> Really ? Who manufactured your automobile, furniture, carpet, >> or wood flooring. Whoops where did the 2x4 studs come from ? > So you believe there is MORE manufacturing > today than 30 years ago. right? Very likely given the higher turnover of 'consumer durables' In spades with houses. >>> Really ? Who manufactured your automobile, furniture, carpet, >>> or wood flooring. Whoops where did the 2x4 studs come from ? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >In spades with houses. You're kidding? I thought they were all made in Taiwan and towed over here on pontoons ...... >>Really ? Who manufactured your automobile, furniture, carpet, or >>wood flooring. Whoops where did the 2x4 studs come from ? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Joel Yes I do, there is a multitude more consumers. You did notice that the earth's population has increased, right ? We keep finding more oil, or should I say have found better ways to extract it ? Gold mines keep mining more gold, as do diamond mines, and coal mines. In case you haven't noticed, there are 'tree farmers' in addition to corn, wheat, rice. Not to mention livestock. You should stand in front of St. Basils Cathedral, bow, then shoot yourself. Well..., not really. It's a fabulous building though. Red Square. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>No, the idea itself isn't new, but sadly missing from many dental >>offices. Otherwise, why would most people find the idea of "spa" >>dentistry (in its broadest sense) novel? > >People have changed. America has gone soft. Manufacturing is dead. I don't think this is a bad thing. I do not want to work in a factory. A factory in America cannot compete with a factory in China without MASSIVE tarrifs. >We all lose. Only the people who didn't realize the future of American jobs is knowledge based. There is huge money to be made in the processing of information. >I hate service jobs ~ people sucking up for tips and stuff. Is computer programming a 'service job'? Or do we produce products? It certainly isn't manufacturing. I don't recall ever sucking up for tips. >Joel -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? Dear Adeno, JME is a dyed-in-the-wool 'far left' liberal. By that I mean a socialist/communist ideal. Typical of those who already have already accumulated wealth. Those who wish to squelch those who are willing to 'work hard' and improve their lot in life; and try to accumulate assets. Am surprised that a man of JME's age has any usenet skills at all, however, JME is of the mindset of "take from the worker, give to the slacker, I already got mine." Quite a knowledgeable man about dentistry, but not very mature. Prolly has kids older than you, Adeno. We can discuss this privately if you wish. Both of ya'll that is. Posted this publicly for all to evaluate, and will post relevant private conversations for all to see with permission. Joel, you are a lonely, lonely man. Any GCs ? Ever seen them ? How many divorces, eh ? >>>No, the idea itself isn't new, but sadly missing from many dental >>>offices. Otherwise, why would most people find the idea of "spa" [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >>Joel -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >Dear Adeno, > >JME is a dyed-in-the-wool 'far left' liberal. >By that I mean a socialist/communist ideal. Ahemmmm, that's Comrade Joel! >Typical of those who already have already accumulated wealth. >Those who wish to squelch those who are willing to 'work hard' >and improve their lot in life; and try to accumulate assets. Don't you get it? That's how we accumulate even more. Didn't you read all my posts about why YOU should invest in the DOT.COM industires? Enron, WorldCom ...... you know ..... We are laughing all the way TO and FROM the bank .. with your cash of course! Comrade Joel >Am surprised that a man of JME's age >has any usenet skills at all, however, >JME is of the mindset of "take from the worker, >give to the slacker, I already got mine." OF COURSE! >Quite a knowledgeable man about dentistry, >but not very mature. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Any GCs ? Ever seen them ? >How many divorces, eh ? Gee, I thought the thread was about FRUGALITY, DENTISTRY, and where YOUR money is right now. Joel I mean Comrade Joel >>>>No, the idea itself isn't new, but sadly missing from many dental >>>>offices. Otherwise, why would most people find the idea of "spa" [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >>>Joel >>JME is a dyed-in-the-wool 'far left' liberal. >>By that I mean a socialist/communist ideal. > >Ahemmmm, that's Comrade Joel! My point exactly. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >Dear Adeno, > >JME is a dyed-in-the-wool 'far left' liberal. >By that I mean a socialist/communist ideal. This is rather obvious due to his posts. >Typical of those who already have already accumulated wealth. >Those who wish to squelch those who are willing to 'work hard' >and improve their lot in life; and try to accumulate assets. Interesting idea... >Am surprised that a man of JME's age >has any usenet skills at all, however, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >but not very mature. >Prolly has kids older than you, Adeno. Not a difficult task to have kids older that me... especially if you have any social skills at all. >We can discuss this privately if you wish. >Both of ya'll that is. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Any GCs ? Ever seen them ? >How many divorces, eh ? I'm no stranger to the idea of libralism. My entire family is rather libral. I used to be too until two things happened: I learned how the monetary system works, and I noticed that every person I saw make an effort to get ahead did. No matter how poor off they were (even homeless in one case) when they decided they wanted to make things better it magically happened, no matter what the experts said the economy was like. Maybe there are people who can make a true effort and still not get ahead. I have not met those people yet. Until I do I'll believe in the idea of people getting what they work for, and not what they 'need'. -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? As humans we are no strangers to aggression. In fact we love it. Yet through cooperation, we can get further ahead (for all). DANG! I let the cat out of the bag again. Comrade Joel ** >I'm no stranger to the idea of libralism. My entire family is rather >libral. I used to be too until two things happened: I learned how the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >better it magically happened, no matter what the experts said the >economy was like. > DANG! I let the cat out of the bag again. > > Comrade Joel See you at the cell meeting Joel. Vaughn >> DANG! I let the cat out of the bag again. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Vaughn 1950a trivia. TV programming had oodles of "Communist spy" programs. Pretty good too. Herbert Philbrick, etc. Joel > 1950a trivia. > > TV programming had oodles of "Communist spy" programs. > > Pretty good too. > Herbert Philbrick, etc. "I Led Three Lives" Yep, I remember it. As I recall, it must have been a really low budget show, mostly him in his attic hideout. (Funny! Google gave me an ad for LED Christmas lights when I searched on "I Led Three Lives") Vaughn >> 1950a trivia. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Vaughn How about "I remember Mama." >As humans we are no strangers to aggression. In fact we love it. Yet >through cooperation, we can get further ahead (for all). [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >** You should move back to Russia, JME. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>As humans we are no strangers to aggression. In fact we love it. Yet >>through cooperation, we can get further ahead (for all). [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >You should move back to Russia, JME. I travel there regularly ....... for NKVD meetings. > Maybe there are people who can make a true effort and still not get > ahead. I have not met those people yet. Until I do I'll believe in the > idea of people getting what they work for, and not what they 'need'. Here! Here! I for one sincerely hope that is true, as that's why I'm here... SP  SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >Maybe there are people who can make a true effort and still not get >ahead. I have not met those people yet. Until I do I'll believe in the >idea of people getting what they work for, and not what they 'need'. > >-- >Adenosine Agreed. Would add that I believe people should keep more of what they have earned, and not have to 'fork it over' to the government. Am thinking that a 'flat tax' of 10% would not only generate enormous revenue for the gvmt, but would blast the US enconomy into the stratosphere. It works in the most backward country in the world. Why not here ? PS Am not completely convinced that this is possible, or that it would work. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>Maybe there are people who can make a true effort and still not get >>ahead. I have not met those people yet. Until I do I'll believe in the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >would not only generate enormous revenue for the gvmt, >but would blast the US enconomy into the stratosphere. You can only earn that living due to the protection of "that government" that you want others to pay for. Sheesh. Sounds like Jan Drew ... WAIT, let me check to see if Jan Drew and W_B are the same! Joel >It works in the most backward country in the world. >Why not here ? > >PS >Am not completely convinced that this is possible, >or that it would work. >>People have changed. America has gone soft. Manufacturing is dead. > >I don't think this is a bad thing. I do not want to work in a factory. >A factory in America cannot compete with a factory in China without >MASSIVE tarrifs. I do not want to work in the factory, but I sure want to be the DENTIST who has the factory workers as patients. 1. Money. 2. Swing shift - patients are always available for day-time dental appointments. 3. Local economy thrives. Joel >No, the idea itself isn't new, but sadly missing from many dental >offices. Otherwise, why would most people find the idea of "spa" >dentistry (in its broadest sense) novel? A desire to blindly mimic some lecturer who makes it look like he earns a lot of money running his office this way. .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. > >No, the idea itself isn't new, but sadly missing from many dental > >offices. Otherwise, why would most people find the idea of "spa" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > earns a lot of money running his office this way. > .. I believe Steve just pinned the tail on that donkey! T >>No, the idea itself isn't new, but sadly missing from many dental >>offices. Otherwise, why would most people find the idea of "spa" [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >.. >Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Completely ignoring the fact that the 'lecturer' is earning his wages by giving lectures. Right ? If it worked so good, why ever leave the office ? Have Zero respect for the guru and the mindless sheep that follow. Could go on, but then may start charging ya'll and become what I most despise Not gonna happen. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > Completely ignoring the fact that the 'lecturer' is earning his > wages by giving lectures. Right ? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE Cos it's more fun? Or because you might make a difference (the point of all teaching, really)? >> Completely ignoring the fact that the 'lecturer' is earning his >> wages by giving lectures. Right ? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Or because you might make a difference (the point of all teaching, >really)? No, it's about the revenue. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>>No, the idea itself isn't new, but sadly missing from many dental >>>offices. Otherwise, why would most people find the idea of "spa" [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Not gonna happen. One of my classmates drives me crazy. Every new lecture he attends, he changes everything he does. the buys the brands endorsed by the lecturer and has cabinets full of unused stuff. .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. > >Could go on, but then may start charging > >ya'll and become what I most despise [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. > Troy, Michigan, USA ......Ummm..... Heh Heh heh......... <drop head, rub back of neck, paw the floor> .... I seem to remember in the not-too-distant past (October) I was gonna revolutionize your thinking with a certain 'HEEL O-ZONE' machine... brought to my attention by a certain.... Ray Berlotti... I really owe it to you guys for the fact that I'm not another $40K Kanadian under for that ploy... .......................... ;-) SP .... ;-) SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet > I was gonna >revolutionize your thinking with a certain 'HEEL O-ZONE' machine... ITYM Hell-0-Zone >brought to my attention by a certain.... Ray Berlotti... Bertolli <hehe> has a financial interest in the Quack-0-Zon3 >I really owe it to you guys for the fact that I'm not another $40K >Kanadian under for that ploy... >.......................... ;-) Send my cut now, need it for Christmas presents. At least $40K Kanadian is only $20K US. 8^]] >SP -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >One of my classmates drives me crazy. Every new lecture he attends, >he changes everything he does. the buys the brands endorsed by the >lecturer and has cabinets full of unused stuff. >.. >Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. At least you said 'classmate'. If you had said 'friend' I would worry. There are some guys that like lottsa new toys. Dental or automotive... You get the idea, right ? Me ? I like lottsa cash in the bank. Can leverage the heck outta that... -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >What I was really trying to say is that for a lot of people, removing >the "clinical environment" factor puts them at ease. In my own personal >opinion, environmental anchors are one of the biggest factors in dental >fear, and removing them makes things easier for the practitioner. I like the stinky small of phenol and eugenol in the office. Joel >> > "Spa dentistry" is really an umbrella term. Some would argue that >"spa [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >> >> T >Like I said before, I think all this crap lends a circus atmosphere to our >profession. I wouldn't like it as a patient and quite frankly, I am embarrassed >by it as a dentist. > >T No nonsense approach: This is *not* burger king. You don't get it your way. You take it my way, or you don't get the damn thing. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>Like I said before, I think all this crap lends a circus atmosphere to our >>profession. I wouldn't like it as a patient and quite frankly, I am embarrassed [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >You take it my way, or you don't >get the damn thing. But can I have fries with that? >> "Spa dentistry" is really an umbrella term. Some would argue that "spa >> dentistry" only encompasses places which offer actual spa treatments, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Your definition is typical of modern dental marketing where people like to >pretend they have invented the wheels that have been spinning for years. EXACTLY! So true. >These >days we hear and see terms like "Family" or "cosmetic" dentistry, but what came [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >a reference from DE, which in my mind one of the biggest purveyors of this brand >of BS. YUP, and degrades the profession. >I think serving milkshakes in one's office is silly, but I have no doubt some >people like it. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I think nitrous should be used when clinically necessary, not peddled as a >marketing enhancer or mood setter by some one characterized as a "facilitator". DENTIST (entering operatory): "Whoa, get that nitrous offa her. She has emphysema and should not inhale anything!" Joel >Like I said before, I think all this crap lends a circus atmosphere to our >profession. I wouldn't like it as a patient and quite frankly, I am embarrassed >by it as a dentist. > >T >"Spa dentistry" is really an umbrella term. Some would argue that "spa >dentistry" only encompasses places which offer actual spa treatments, >such as massages or manicures etc. But the term is used much more >loosely to refer to dental offices which make an effort to make the >dental experience more pleasant. What about refrigerator magnets? They are very important. Joel >Perhaps the best piece of writing I've come across in relation to "spa" >dentistry is the following article in "Dental Economics": [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >also reckon that good dentistry and "spa" dentistry in its broadest >sense are not mutually exclusive by any means. "Spa dentistry" is really an umbrella term. Some would argue that "spa dentistry" only encompasses places which offer actual spa treatments, such as massages or manicures etc I can see it now manicures, pedicures, massages, and colics during "SPA PLASTIC SURGERY" facelifts, breast augmentaton and liposuction etc... Calling offices that make patients comfortable with a massage chair as a spa dentistry is an incorrect use of the term SPA; way too broad. > Funny thing is patients do not mind. They would rather pay an extra $5 > for prophy and get a cheezy forty cent toothbrush with the doc's name > on it. Not a fair statement. It is virtually impossible to "shop" for dental services. $5 one way or the other is not noticed because the consumer has no frame for comparison. Going back to the original question; as a consumer, I would avoid a "spa" dental office on the theory that I would be paying for the unnecessary frills. Vaughn > Joel >> Funny thing is patients do not mind. They would rather pay an extra $5 >> for prophy and get a cheezy forty cent toothbrush with the doc's name [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >services. $5 one way or the other is not noticed because the consumer has no >frame for comparison. TRUE. I AM just reinforcing what you said. > Going back to the original question; as a consumer, I would avoid a "spa" >dental office on the theory that I would be paying for the unnecessary frills. Expensive toothbrushes ($0.40) is one example ..... >Vaughn > >> Joel I'm not into the spa scene. A back massaging chair in an op bigger than a bathroom cubicle would make me feel much more comfortable. SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply | I'd just like some feedback on how people feel about dentists who use | back massagers on their chairs, aromatherapy, etc. in their offices. Is | this just a fad or does it show patients that we really are concerned | about their comfort? |
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