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The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 17:09 GMT
The Usenet Peace Prize (offered by TW) will go to the poster/s who can
identify this quote and some insight into the story behind it:

"You get a kid a real guitar and it becomes a friend for life."

Every season is the season to work toward Peace,
Webby
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 17:14 GMT
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<nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-9E6CD4.09092816122004@orngca-news04.soca
l.rr.com>,

> The Usenet Peace Prize (offered by TW) will go to the poster/s who can
> identify this quote and some insight into the story behind it:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Every season is the season to work toward Peace,
> Webby

You can send your replies to me via email if you wish... Take out all
the "antispam" and you're set to go!

TW
Fawks - 17 Dec 2004 03:06 GMT
> > "You get a kid a real guitar and it becomes a friend for life."

> TW

For me, my dad taught me about tools, responsibility, and work ethics.
My mom taught me patience and sensitivity.
My high school science teacher taught me that I was as smart as most
of my other classmates.
My basketball coach taught me how to be competitive and learn how to
win.
My girl friend (who I've been married to for the last 29 years) taught
me that I could put all of that together and accomplish something with
my life.

I have a closet full of 'guitars' and I've made many life long friends.
Fawks
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 16:11 GMT
> > > "You get a kid a real guitar and it becomes a friend for life."
>
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> I have a closet full of 'guitars' and I've made many life long friends.
> Fawks

I think Fawks hit the ball out of the park!!! I'm watching it soar ...
and soar ...  Beautiful...... yes, it's out of the park!!!  

smd wins the Usenet Peace Prize because I say it is deserving  and Fawks
wins the Achievement Award for stepping up to the plate and hitting the
ball out of the park ...

Peace to all,
The Webby
Advocate147 - 17 Dec 2004 17:50 GMT
TW

You have eloquent words, and you are to be congratulated  for an imagination
that can soar and touch all of us with the stories we had the privilege to
read.

Gail
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 21:44 GMT
> TW
>
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>
> Gail

Thank you, Gail.  That was really very nice of you to say (write).
TW
Dr. Steve - 17 Dec 2004 19:00 GMT
>> > "You get a kid a real guitar and it becomes a friend for life."
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>I have a closet full of 'guitars' and I've made many life long friends.
>Fawks

I must be the only guy on SMD who does not own a guitar.
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 19:11 GMT
> >> > "You get a kid a real guitar and it becomes a friend for life."
> >
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>
> Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.

Oh dear... it's not my style to leave anybody out!!  :-(
For you, my friend, I'm going to encourage you to come up with a story
without a guitar that drives the message straight to our hearts.  I know
you can do it!!

TW :-)
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 19:32 GMT
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<nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-11EF2F.11143317122004@orngca-news04.soca
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> > >> > "You get a kid a real guitar and it becomes a friend for life."
> > >
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>
> TW :-)

Anyone who would like to contribute a personal story to this thread is
encouraged to do so... 'guitars' are not required ... they are merely a
'vehicle' that works for some and not other.  :-)

Sincerely,
The Webby,
CWatters - 18 Dec 2004 00:15 GMT
"The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-

> Anyone who would like to contribute a personal story to this thread is
> encouraged to do so... 'guitars' are not required ... they are merely a
> 'vehicle' that works for some and not other.  :-)

On a summers Sunday, in the middle of the English countryside there is a
special field. A tiny field really, in a sleepy hollow, well hidden from the
modern world. In one corner stands a 1920 vintage biplane dripping golden
castor oil into a bucket.... plink....plink.....plink.... Here and there red
and white chequered tablecloths are spread in the long grass weighted down
with creaking wicker picnic hampers and folding chairs as old as the Morgan
they arrived in. The seed grass has grown tall and soft. The sheep peer at
you through the fence. As you approach the centre you can hear faint cries
from a group of youngsters buzzing like bees around a honey pot... "Mines
broken Sir" cries one, "No fix mine first please!" cries another. You are
draw by a strange smell, not quite familiar... yet...yet... perhaps its a
little like bananas..... you make your way towards the "pot". The crowd of
children parts and sitting on an old moth eaten blanket is an equally old
man with shaky fingers and glasses that perch on the end of his nose. Around
him the grass has been pressed flat like a miniature crop circle. He reminds
you immediately of your grandfather, his sleeveless cardigan is buttoned up
wrong just the same. Within reach a cloth cap lies upside down - it's filled
with little tubes of glue, elastic bands, a pot of something with a brush
and different coloured tissue paper squares. In his hands a crumpled mass of
tissue and wood slowly comes back to life...a little glue here...a little
tissue paper there...and it's repaired again. The process of restoration
takes time...  you can't hurry these things. At last it's done and the proud
young owner thanks the gentleman and slowly retreats with his prize.
Immediately another ball of wood and tissue is thrust into his hands. How
many has he fixed today? He couldn't say.... Suddenly there is silence and
everyone turns to look.  Out of the grass a child stands up nervously and
holds his creation above his head. He releases one hand and a whirring sound
begins, faster and faster, louder and louder. He releases the other and it
starts to rise. Twisting and turning it climbs into the sky. Round and round
it goes, coloured tissue panels tinting the sunlight. The crowd gives chase
leaping through the grass stirring up the butterflies... another generation
of model flyers is born.

Colin
The Webby - 18 Dec 2004 05:45 GMT
> "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-
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>
> Colin

Colin!... I've read this over and over ... and with each reading, my
mind conjures new and colorful images.  In the morning, I shall read it
one more time; because, knowing it will be one day short of Sunday and  
yet two seasons short of summer, I will surely see another vision in my
minds eye tomorrow as I read your story another time.

I will reply again at that time.

TW
The Webby - 18 Dec 2004 09:32 GMT
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<nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-6B4203.21480717122004@orngca-news04.soca
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> > "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-
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>
> TW

I am pleased to award the "Most Imaginative Visual expressing The
Timeless Art of Healing".

Congratulations and thank you for your beautiful contribution.

TW
CWatters - 18 Dec 2004 10:08 GMT
> I am pleased to award the "Most Imaginative Visual expressing The
> Timeless Art of Healing".
>
> Congratulations and thank you for your beautiful contribution.

Thank you sir.

Visitors to the UK might like to know that the scene is replayed several
times a year at Old Warden airfield in central England.  The field is also
home to the Richard Shuttleworth collection - the worlds most amazing
collection of airworth vintage airplanes. Some are extreemly fragile and can
only be flown on lazy summer evenings. It's hard to believe they can still
fly planes like this...

http://apma.org.au/reference/ww1/bristol_boxkite/boxkite.html
Dr. Steve - 18 Dec 2004 19:30 GMT
>"The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-
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>
>Colin

nice one
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.
W_B - 18 Dec 2004 23:24 GMT
>another generation
>>of model flyers is born.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>..
>Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.

Time to visit Harr3y ?

--
W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
W_B - 17 Dec 2004 22:10 GMT
>Oh dear... it's not my style to leave anybody out!!  :-(
>For you, my friend, I'm going to encourage you to come up with a story
>without a guitar that drives the message straight to our hearts.  I know
>you can do it!!
>
>TW :-)

Well, you see I had this genuine antique dagger...

--
W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 23:49 GMT
> >Oh dear... it's not my style to leave anybody out!!  :-(
> >For you, my friend, I'm going to encourage you to come up with a story
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
> Take out the G'RBAGE

*to* our hearts ... !!!!  
TW
Steven Bornfeld - 17 Dec 2004 19:26 GMT
> I must be the only guy on SMD who does not own a guitar.

    They're easier to carry around than that thar pianer.

Steve

> ..
> Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
> Troy, Michigan, USA
>
> Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 17:15 GMT
In article
<nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-9E6CD4.09092816122004@orngca-news04.soca
l.rr.com>,

> The Usenet Peace Prize (offered by TW) will go to the poster/s who can
> identify this quote and some insight into the story behind it:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Every season is the season to work toward Peace,
> Webby

Entries may be sent to me via email, just remove the "antispam" stuff.
It's Off Topic, but hey ... it's that time of year.

TW
Tim Dixon - 16 Dec 2004 17:21 GMT
> The Usenet Peace Prize (offered by TW) will go to the poster/s who can
> identify this quote and some insight into the story behind it:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Every season is the season to work toward Peace,
> Webby

It's from Gibson

Woody gives Arlo a "Friend for Life"

Ed. note: The "Son" guitar in Gibson Montana's new Woody Guthrie Father &
Son set is a reissue of a Gibson flat top that Woody gave to his son Arlo in
the early 1950s. The model was a ?-sized version of Gibson's smallbody
LG-series flat tops - officially called the LG-2 ?. Prior to World War II,
the ?-sized model was called the L-00 ?, which is the way Arlo refers to it.
Here's the story, as told by Arlo.

I received my first guitar as a birthday present fifty years ago. I was five
years old when my father surprised me with a Gibson L-00 3/4 - a kid sized
guitar. I banged on it for a few minutes and ran out the door of our
apartment in Beach Haven across the street from Coney Island Hospital. There
was a vacant lot on the corner and a little candy store nearby with a
counter and some stools where we consumed egg creams and sandwiches. I took
my new guitar there for some reason and banged on the thing until someone
gruffly said "Why don't you get that thing outta here until you learn to
play it."

I ran out in tears and hid the guitar in some weeds in the lot. I returned
to the apartment empty-handed. My mother was furious with me for abandoning
the present which had cost them dearly. We were poor people in those days
and my dad had spent $70 on the guitar. I ran out in a state of shock and
confusion. I remember hoping beyond hope that it was still where I had left
it. It was! And I returned again with the guitar in hand. I've kept it with
me ever since.

Even today $70 spent on a five-year-old kid seems like a lot of money. My
mother was angered beyond words that my father would spend that kind of
money on a little kid. Not only that, but as he left to purchase the guitar,
the neighbor said "If you're getting one for your kid, pick one up for
mine." He certainly thought, as did my mother, that he would come home with
a $15 toy and not a real instrument. The neighbor went ballistic in sync
with my mom's utter disbelief.

My father told them "If you buy a kid a toy, he'll play it for a day and
lose interest in a week. If you get him a real instrument, it'll never let
him down and it'll be a friend for life." Both me and the neighbor kid are
still playing.

Years after my fifth birthday, when in my late 20s or so, I was visiting an
old friend of mine, Jerry Jeff Walker, who was playing in a place nearby my
home in Massachusetts. We got to talking and I was telling him the story of
my first guitar. The old guitar was still hanging on the wall in my home
unplayable after the years had taken their toll.

The front had cracked in a few places and I had to remove the strings a
decade earlier when the pressure had pushed the neck into the sound hole. I
was telling Jerry Jeff the sob story of the little guitar and it must have
made an impact on him. He got up, walked away and came back a few minutes
later with an exact same model. He said "Here! Take this one. I'm not using
it that much." I couldn't believe it! I took the gift home and eventually
gave it to my second daughter, Annie, who loved it above all her other
possessions. She played it for years until some fifteen years later I got a
call from Jerry Jeff.

"Remember that little guitar I gave you? I need it back."

"I gave it to my daughter years ago."

"Well, I need to get it back because I want to give it to my kid." I called
Annie on the phone and told her the news. She broke down in tears. I told
her I would get her another guitar, but that if Jerry Jeff wanted it back
there was nothing I could do about it. We sent it off to Texas shortly after
that and I found Annie a beautiful old Martin D-18.

My old guitar was still hanging on the wall and the years went by. I visited
the Gibson Factory in Bozeman recently and made friends with the entire crew
up there. I repeated my sob story about that little L-00 3/4 with the added
pain and suffering of having to send its brother off to Texas.

I must have told it well. By the time I visited them again on a trip through
town, they had made a brand new L-00 3/4 and told me to give it to my
daughter. Not only that, but they decided to reintroduce the line so that
even Jerry Jeff's grandkids could have one!

I don't know how successful those little guitars will be, but I can't wait
to see my daughter's face when she gets a brand new one soon. She has kids
of her own and it was the best little guitar for a kid to learn on. I took
my old one back to Montana and within a day they had fixed it up, patched
the cracks, reset the neck and put it back together. I sat there and played
my old friend for the first time in decades and the memories flooded back to
the day I first got the thing.

My dad was right. You get a kid a real guitar and it becomes a friend for
life.

Arlo Guthrie
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 17:28 GMT
Faster than a speeding bullet ...... of course! But why would I ask such
a question knowing full well that most of us around here could find the
answer in a flash?  Those considered for the prize need to put their own
insight into the story:

All contestants may submit here or to my email box -- should there be a
tie, I will grant the Prize to smd as a whole ... the Usenet Peace Prize
2004 --- for our ability to work toward cyberpeace in Usenet ---

TW

> "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-9E6CD4.09092816122004@orngca-news04.socal.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> the ?-sized model was called the L-00 ?, which is the way Arlo refers to it.
> Here's the story, as told by Arlo.
[clip]

> My dad was right. You get a kid a real guitar and it becomes a friend for
> life.
>
> Arlo Guthrie
Steven Fawks - 16 Dec 2004 17:53 GMT
I think it has something to do with pie.

Fawks

> Faster than a speeding bullet ...... of course! But why would I ask such
> a question knowing full well that most of us around here could find the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> TW
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 18:25 GMT
> I think it has something to do with pie.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> >
> > TW

That's because you've been eating too much pie!!! But -- you're in the
ball game with your reply.  Additional thoughts would be welcomed in my
email box!  (I could have used a "ball game" parallel for this exercise,
but I liked the guitar story better.)

TW
W_B - 16 Dec 2004 23:00 GMT
>> I think it has something to do with pie.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>TW

Alice's Restaurant Thanksgiving Day Massacre ?
--

W_B

Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 00:03 GMT
> >> I think it has something to do with pie.
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

Hey, guys, there is no *right or wrong* answer here...
But I guess Alice's Restaurant TDM was a peace-worthy gift kind of
song/ballad/story ...even in Usenet, I guess  ???  ;-)

I'm streeeeetching my imagination here.  And that's AOK.

TW
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 16:53 GMT
> >> I think it has something to do with pie.
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

W_B ... I'm having trouble deciding exactly what I should award you ...
but I think this would be good:  "Brevity with Heart"

What a team we have here!

TW
W_B - 17 Dec 2004 21:11 GMT
>W_B ... I'm having trouble deciding exactly what I should award you ...
>but I think this would be good:  "Brevity with Heart"
>
>What a team we have here!
>
>TW

Succinctly stylish.

--
W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 21:44 GMT
> >W_B ... I'm having trouble deciding exactly what I should award you ...
> >but I think this would be good:  "Brevity with Heart"
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> --
> W_B

TW ;-)
Steven Bornfeld - 16 Dec 2004 18:27 GMT
>>The Usenet Peace Prize (offered by TW) will go to the poster/s who can
>>identify this quote and some insight into the story behind it:
[quoted text clipped - 94 lines]
>
> Arlo Guthrie

    Nice story.
    Too bad new Gibsons are so darned inconsistent.

Steve
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 18:35 GMT
> > "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-9E6CD4.09092816122004@orngca-news04.soca
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> >
> > Woody gives Arlo a "Friend for Life"

[clip]

>     Nice story.
>     Too bad new Gibsons are so darned inconsistent.
>
> Steve

It *is* a nice story.  How did you get your first guitar, Steve?  Do you
have a story to share that might lead us in the direction of Friends for
Life?

So, is this your entry reply for the Prize, Steve?
Everybody has a chance to win and who knows?  Maybe we'll all be winners
of the Prize  :-)

email happily encouraged.
(take out the anti-spam stuff)
TW
Joel M. Eichen - 16 Dec 2004 20:36 GMT
>>     Nice story.
>>     Too bad new Gibsons are so darned inconsistent.
>>
>> Steve

Gibsons? I do not give a HOOT.

(Hoot Gibson ......)
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 20:41 GMT
> >>     Nice story.
> >>     Too bad new Gibsons are so darned inconsistent.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> (Hoot Gibson ......)

This would not be a winning reply...  but then you know that. ;-)
TW
Joel M. Eichen - 16 Dec 2004 20:58 GMT
>> >>     Nice story.
>> >>     Too bad new Gibsons are so darned inconsistent.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>This would not be a winning reply...  but then you know that. ;-)

Yes but I can be delusional sometimes .......

>TW
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 21:08 GMT
> >> >>     Nice story.
> >> >>     Too bad new Gibsons are so darned inconsistent.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> >TW

Some think only others can be that way.  I like to think we all can be
that way ... sometimes.  ;-)

TW
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 16 Dec 2004 22:49 GMT
> It *is* a nice story.  How did you get your first guitar, Steve?  Do you
> have a story to share that might lead us in the direction of Friends for
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> (take out the anti-spam stuff)
> TW

    OK, the story of my first guitar:
    When I was in high school, my buddy Howie Hurowitz started playing
guitar.  We were in Brooklyn Tech, which in those days was an all-boys
school.  And even for Tech, I was a science nerd, down to the pocket
protector.  I was totally inept socially, had a few friends, but
wouldn't have known what to do with a girl if I had one.
    Anyhow, Howie started playing guitar.  He didn't have much real talent,
but I had to hand it to him the way he didn't let that stop him.  And he
made some great guitar face.
    He assured me (and I had no reason to doubt him) that playing guitar
was the sure-fire way to get girls.  Now, I couldn't tell that it had
worked for him, but he said it with great authority.
    A couple of weeks after we'd both started Brooklyn College (and having
never successfully asked a girl out on a date), we both went to a dance.
 I didn't hook up with anyone, but Howie went home with the phone
number of a girl who was graduating Lincoln High School, Arlene Diamond.
 Arlene was supposed to be a first cousin of Neil Diamond, who'd also
gone to Lincoln and had been an accomplished fencer there.
    That clinched it--I had to get a guitar and get girls.  I also thought
that all the cool guys were musicians.
    I told my Dad, and far from being opposed, he thought it was a great
idea.  In fact, when my Dad thinks something is a good idea, he will
move heaven and earth to accomplish it.
    We started one Saturday, looking for guitars at a couple of local music
stores, but didn't find anything good at a good enough price.  Of
course, if I'd known then what some of these guitars sell for now, I
could have convinced Dad that a good guitar was a great investment, but
Dad wasn't into investing--he didn't even have a checking account.
    I awoke Sunday morning and heard my Dad making phone call after phone
call, and listening for a minute I realized he was checking around for
guitars.  Now in those days there were blue laws for just about
everything in New York, and almost every store was closed.  But he found
a little Spanish music store in one of the worst parts of Brownsville,
and we got in the car and drove over.  It was a little neighborhood
place, and no one there spoke much English, but we looked at a few
guitars.  I think they were all Spanish-style guitars, inexpensive
nylon-string classical guitars.  We paid $40. for my guitar, named
"Jerez", by a company called Kimberly.  It was made in Japan.
    I don't know that that guitar or any other ever got me any girls.  I
did join a folk music club in college, and made many friends, some of
whom I'm still in touch with.  The first president of the club, Les, is
a psychiatrist in Westchester.  The second president, Artie, works for
Brooklyn Union Gas.  There were fine musicians, playing traditional folk
music, Mississippi delta blues, bluegrass.  One of folks there is still
one of the top fretted instrument repair guys in New York, Bob Jones.
Another is one of the most well-known klezmer musicians in the East,
Andy Statman.
    I've had several guitars since then.  But that $40. guitar that I
bought on Sunday, Oct. 5, 1969 is sitting on the floor to my left as I
write this--and it's my office guitar, and I still love it.

Steve

Signature

Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 16:41 GMT
If readers haven't read this, they should take the time to do so and
then my comment is at the conclusion!

> > It *is* a nice story.  How did you get your first guitar, Steve?  Do you
> > have a story to share that might lead us in the direction of Friends for
[quoted text clipped - 60 lines]
>
> Steve

Well, I didn't see this post until just now.  I gave Fawks the
Achievement Award for hitting the ball out of the park ... and now I'm
going to grant a second Achievement Award to Steve B. because this is
another winner!!!  

This is a great newsgroup, no matter what anybody says.  Sure, we've all
had our moments but look at the expressions of humanity in this
thread... great stories of guitars and friends for life puts a human
face on our newsgroup.

Congratulations, smd for earning TW's Usenet Peace Prize...

The Webby
W_B - 16 Dec 2004 23:01 GMT
>    Nice story.
>    Too bad new Gibsons are so darned inconsistent.
>
>Steve

Gimme a Martin anyday.
--

W_B

Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 16 Dec 2004 23:05 GMT
>>    Nice story.
>>    Too bad new Gibsons are so darned inconsistent.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

    I don't know if I told you, I bought an almost new Martin OM-28V on
Ebay earlier this year.  I feel a little guilty about it, because I
don't play it enough.
    I've never owned a Gibson.  Mark does, however, own a 90 year old
Gibson A-style mandolin.  And there's nothing like the sound of a good
old Gibson J-45--when they're good, they're very, very good.

Steve

Signature

Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

W_B - 16 Dec 2004 23:16 GMT
>    I've never owned a Gibson.  Mark does, however, own a 90 year old
>Gibson A-style mandolin.  And there's nothing like the sound of a good
>old Gibson J-45--when they're good, they're very, very good.
>
>Steve

I have a Les Paul from the late 70's or early 80's plays and sounds good.
Can double as a boat anchor too !

I play mandolin as well.

Yep when you find a good Gibson acoustic keep it.
Bad ones ? Well just wait till it's cold and use them for kindling.

Would love to have a D-45 but couldn't justify the expense.
A nice D-18 or D-28 maybe.
--

W_B

Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Steven Bornfeld - 17 Dec 2004 03:16 GMT
> I have a Les Paul from the late 70's or early 80's plays and sounds good.
> Can double as a boat anchor too !
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> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

    You could justify it as an investment--the value of these guys has held
up very well.  And supposedly the quality Martin is turning out now is
better than it's been since the '60s.
    That's one thing I've learned--some small luthiers make great
instruments.  But in 50 years, you'll be able to sell that Gibson L-5 or
Martin D-28.  My '77 Gurian is a very nice instrument, but my brother's
'77 Martin D-35 was the same price new, and it's worth a lot more
now--even though '70s Martins have a bad reputation.

Steve
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 22:11 GMT
> It's from Gibson
>
> Woody gives Arlo a "Friend for Life"

Hey Tim, was "It's from Gibson" your entry comment???  That's what I
think you meant.. hmmmm.  

Thanks for your entry!

TW
Tim Dixon - 16 Dec 2004 22:39 GMT
>> It's from Gibson
>>
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>
> Thanks for your entry!

Sure why not!
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 22:49 GMT
> "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-247388.14112016122004@orngca-news04.socal.
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>
> Sure why not!

No reason why not to ... okie dokie!!  :-)

TW
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 16:42 GMT
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<nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-247388.14112016122004@orngca-news04.soca
l.rr.com>,

> > It's from Gibson
> >
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>
> TW

Tim gets the award for bringing the story in in a flash!!  So ... that
award would be for his effort to provide the "Speediest Technical
Support" !!!  Congratulations.

TW
CWatters - 16 Dec 2004 17:26 GMT
> The Usenet Peace Prize (offered by TW) will go to the poster/s who can
> identify this quote and some insight into the story behind it:
>
> "You get a kid a real guitar and it becomes a friend for life."

Google says...

http://player.gibson.com/feb03/guthrie.html
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 17:32 GMT
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> news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-9E6CD4.09092816122004@orngca-news04.socal.
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>
> http://player.gibson.com/feb03/guthrie.html

Yes, Google would help you out.  But how might that story be one about
Peace?  This is the part I'm interested in from our little group of
posters and maybe even a few delurkers.

Thanks for getting involved, CWatters.

TW
The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 17:46 GMT
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<nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-340F38.09323316122004@orngca-news04.soca
l.rr.com>,

> > "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-9E6CD4.09092816122004@orngca-news04.soca
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>
> TW

All entries can be sent to me (if you prefer) or posted to smd.  
Remember, it's my Prize to Award, so I'm the only one who needs to see
the entries!!  :-)

Plus!, I would be just as happy to award it to the *smd newsgroup* as I
would any one individual because that is far more impressive.  

I'll be watching for email and posts.  (So, don't be shy.)

(I have not lost my mind ... I'm just working in the Spirit of the
season,

TW  :-)
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 16 Dec 2004 22:28 GMT
>>The Usenet Peace Prize (offered by TW) will go to the poster/s who can
>>identify this quote and some insight into the story behind it:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://player.gibson.com/feb03/guthrie.html

    About that story--I was a big fan of Arlo's (in fact, probably knew
more of his songs than I did of Woody's).  Back around 1970 a guitar
instructional book on his early songs (including Alice's Restaurant) was
my introduction to Travis picking (after Merle Travis).
    I must say though that to replace his daughter's 3/4 size guitar with a
Martin D-18 is weird--that Martin is similar to what Arlo played on his
early recordings, but is way way big, esp. for a young girl.

Steve

Signature

Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

CWatters - 16 Dec 2004 22:07 GMT
> The Usenet Peace Prize (offered by TW) will go to the poster/s who can
> identify this quote and some insight into the story behind it:
>
> "You get a kid a real guitar and it becomes a friend for life."

Here is my entry...

"The Pause of Mr. Claus"...

Why do you sit there so strange?
Is it because you are beautiful?
You must think you are deranged
Why do police guys beat on peace guys?

You must think Santa Clause weird
He has long hair and a beard
Giving his presents for free
Why do police guys mess with peace guys?

Let's get Santa Clause 'cause;
Santa Clause has a red suit
He's a communist
And a beard, and long hair
Must be a pacifist
What's in the pipe that he's smoking?

Mister Clause sneaks in your home at night.
He must be a dope fiend, to put you up tight
Why do police guys beat on peace guys?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 16 Dec 2004 22:21 GMT
>>The Usenet Peace Prize (offered by TW) will go to the poster/s who can
>>identify this quote and some insight into the story behind it:
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> He must be a dope fiend, to put you up tight
> Why do police guys beat on peace guys?

    Shall we dedicate this to all you FBI guys out in the audience?

Steve

Signature

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http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

The Webby - 16 Dec 2004 22:27 GMT
> "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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> He must be a dope fiend, to put you up tight
> Why do police guys beat on peace guys?

That's an interesting POV for the contest. Thanks!
(I noticed that Steve B. has taken notice!)

TW
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 16:47 GMT
> "The Webby" <nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-9E6CD4.09092816122004@orngca-news04.socal.
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> He must be a dope fiend, to put you up tight
> Why do police guys beat on peace guys?

And CWatters gets the award for "Most Unusual Protest-Peace Ballad" (I
think...  ;-)  )

TW
W_B - 17 Dec 2004 21:12 GMT
>And CWatters gets the award for "Most Unusual Protest-Peace Ballad" (I
>think...  ;-)  )
>
>TW

I prefer Roger Waters.

--
W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 21:54 GMT
> >And CWatters gets the award for "Most Unusual Protest-Peace Ballad" (I
> >think...  ;-)  )
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> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
> Take out the G'RBAGE

Do you mean that wasn't an Arlo song that CWatters shared?  Or do you
mean you prefer Pink Floyd to Arlo Guthrie?  Or ... are you just pokin'
fun?

TW (I think you're just pokin' fin)
The Webby - 17 Dec 2004 22:03 GMT
In article
<nospamattmjiatroepidemicnospam-FA258F.13562617122004@orngca-news04.soca
l.rr.com>,

> TW (I think you're just pokin' fin [sic])

I'm getting worse rather than better!!
TW
 
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