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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / December 2004Well said, Senator!
http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf >Subject: Well said, Senator! >From: clintonz@prodigy.net >Date: 12/11/2004 3:38 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <1102765083.646969.118640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> > >http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf Indeed. Jan It was also very interesting how only 30 million total had been spent on research. that is probably the advertising budget for one drug. Then half of those studies weren't even published, yet the ADA loudly proclaims a lack of proof for amalgam toxicity. There is probably more honesty at a carnival run by gypsies than the NIDCR! > It was also very interesting how only 30 million total had been spent > on research. that [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > There is probably more honesty at a carnival run by gypsies than the > NIDCR! Again and Again and Again and Again, my man, I say unto Thee: you're barking up the WRONG TREE. REPLACE Amalgam with another compound that can do its job, and we'll let it go, I promise you that. Until you can do that, what you're saying is pure bullshit. RELEVANCE to my day to day problems is what counts to me, man. JMO SP  SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >From: StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOTnet (StovePipe) [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Again and Again and Again and Again, my man, I say unto Thee: you're >barking up the WRONG TREE. >REPLACE Amalgam with another compound that can do its job, Newsflash. ALREADY DONE http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf >Jan <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote: > >Again and Again and Again and Again, my man, I say unto Thee: you're > >barking up the WRONG TREE. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf Standard rebuttal: Why don't you try to place a white filling in a wet and bloody field? Why don't you follow those fillings for two and five years, and then compare them to the worst placed Amalgam that you could have done? Why don't you go follow a low or medium end dentist around for a week, and then come back here and try to honestly say that all your preaching is relevant to the REAL WORLD? SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >and >then come back here and try to honestly say that all your preaching is >relevant to the REAL WORLD? >SP Well let's at least change the thread title, eh ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > >and > >then come back here and try to honestly say that all your preaching is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE OhhhKay-Fine SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >From: StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOTnet (StovePipe) [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Standard rebuttal: Standard TRUTH Jan just a thought but couldn't your medical problems have been something else? From what I have read you healed quicker than you should have after having the fillings replaced. The reason I ask is not to get you upset but with crohn's, it is hard to diagnose and causes a lot of people a lot of problems for years at a time until the diagnosis is made and the medical care is started. This can happen with a multitude of other problems that can clear themselves in time. UM MOM Susan > >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >>From: StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOTnet (StovePipe) [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf >Jan just a thought but couldn't your medical problems have been something >else? Exactly right. Polyneuropathy as described by Jan has any number of causes ...... >From what I have read you healed quicker than you should have after >having the fillings replaced. Two days and she was Break Dancing again, according to Rich. > The reason I ask is not to get you upset but >with crohn's, it is hard to diagnose and causes a lot of people a lot of >problems for years at a time until the diagnosis is made and the medical >care is started. This can happen with a multitude of other problems that >can clear themselves in time. EXACTLY. A very intelligent post. THANKS. Joel FROM: UM MOM Susan >> >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >>>From: StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOTnet (StovePipe) [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >From: "Sdores" sdores@bellsouth.net [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >else? From what I have read you healed quicker than you should have after >having the fillings replaced What you have read it a pack of lies. >The reason I ask is not to get you upset but >with crohn's, it is hard to diagnose and causes a lot of people a lot of >problems for years at a time until the diagnosis is made and the medical >care is started. This can happen with a multitude of other problems that >can clear themselves in time. Mercury doesn't clear by itself, it takes years, one must remove the daily dose. I had layered problems, my mercury levels showed mercury poisoning and I also have peripheral neuropathy, cause by heavy metals. The FACT that *organized medicine and dentistry* LIE about amalgams, keeps many people from never thinking to check the teeth. I searched for two years and spent $20.000, searching. Jan Do you have a mental block where you can't see that informing the consumer of risks and medically monitoring the effects of amalgam is a different issue from how often they are placed. If I take a drug for a medical condition I am still informed of the risks and monitored by a doctor for any side effects. Are you able to reason that this has nothing to do with whether or not I end up taking the drug? > http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf When a poster just leaves a bare link with no discussion, without at least a snippet from the link, and without the slightest frame of reference why the link may be important, I just move on and assume that the poster must be either a spammer or an idiot. Which are you? Vaughn > > http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Vaughn Discussion? Usually discussion on the sensitive topic of amalgam get's the discusser on a 'banned' list. But seriously why don't you try reading the document. Here's a discussion topic: How come the NIDCR doesn't publish many of its studies? because of their pro-amalgam nature? > Discussion? Usually discussion on the sensitive > topic of amalgam get's the discusser on a 'banned' list. Oh? So you think that a bit of dishonesty will help your case? > But seriously why don't you try reading the document. Because you STILL have not provided: any discussion (save your "topic"), the slightest snippet from the link, nor the slightest frame of reference why the link may be important or interesting. > > ... the poster must be either > > a spammer or an idiot. I think I have figured this one out for myself. Vaughn Listen, jerk, if you want to read the link and discuss it then go ahead , otherwise keep your mouth closed. If you want me to translate the relatively short letter line by line I can. If you cant figure out the context, implication or relevance of the letter to past discussions by yourself you have a serious reading comprehension problem. > Listen, jerk, if you want to read the link and discuss it then go ahead > , otherwise [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to past discussions by yourself you have a serious reading > comprehension problem. Would it be too much for you to write a one or two line description of the material in question? Why is it so difficult for people to read a 3 page document? Fine, the document in the link is a letter from Senator Lautenberg to a head person at NIH questioning the validity of dental research done by the NIDCR. It is relevant because of the current report about amalgam to be issued by LSRO which may have already triggering a small investigation (by Senators Burton and Watson) for illegal contracting methods and blatant stacking of results. What's also particularly disturbing is the fact, mentioned in this letter that NIDCR has failed to publish many of its studies which strongly implies they may have been anti-amalgam in their conclusions. > Listen, jerk, if..... Hey there, man: You are calling one of the most respected and delightful personalities on this here SMD a jerk, and then you wonder if your going to get kill filed?... Like the question Vaughn posed and answered for himself.... SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet > > Listen, jerk, if..... > > Hey there, man: You are calling one of the most respected and delightful > personalities on this here SMD a jerk, Awww gee. (blush, paw the ground) Vaughn Please make goo-goo eyes at each other in another thread. >Please make goo-goo eyes at each other in another thread. A HYDRA can make goo-goo eyes at itself. .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. >>Please make goo-goo eyes at each other in another thread. > >A HYDRA can make goo-goo eyes at itself. >.. >Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Would that be @ 4x ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >From: "Vaughn" vaughnsimonHATESSPAM@att.fake.net [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Hey there, man: You are calling one of the most respected and delightful >> personalities on this here SMD a jerk, Translation: Is a suck up. > > Listen, jerk, if..... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > SP Hey , read the thread. He called me an idiot first. Let's see, on post #4 out of nowhere I am called an idiot even though the title of the post is relevant and I even discussed the post precedings Vaughns attack. When someone attacks me for no reason when I take the TIME to provide new information, then refuses to apoloize and comes at me again like an attack dog even after I take the time to then post a summary, while meanwhile playing footsie with JE and the other dentists in threads with absurd and misleading titles and little or no relevance, I tell them to GET the HECK out of my thread Now you call me an idiot too. Your full of baloney and apparently as big a hypocrite. I hope you get it through your head that I am being very polite. And please stop posting these circular arguments about lack of replacement materials. WHO cares. Defining the risk of amalgam is your JOB. When I made out a check to my dentists in the 80's where Hg was even removed from the material sheet and no one informed me of the risks, He wasn't paying ME. Get it? You want patients to find a replacement material and do your job of defining the risk of amlagam. You PAY them and give them NIDCR's funding or at least the large % covering the unpublished studies. (Assuming you where in the US). What "anti-amalgamists" are doing is the job that YOU, FDA, NIDCR, health Canda and so on haven't done for decades. THEY ARE doing YOUR JOB. >Let's see, on post #4 out of nowhere I am called an idiot Should have stopped at post #4, 'twas a bulls' eye. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > >Let's see, on post #4 out of nowhere I am called an idiot > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE It just occured to me that inverted you have the same initials as my old dentist - BM. That really explains alot. WACKO .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. PS Vaughn I guess you missed this post which I posted before your first post "It was also very interesting how only 30 million total had been spent on research that is probably the advertising budget for one drug. Then half of those studies weren't even published, yet the ADA loudly proclaims a lack of proof for amalgam toxicity. There is probably more honesty at a carnival run by gypsies than the NIDCR." If you don't want to be a hypocritical *ss go chew out Joel Eichen who typically posts one line per post. > PS Vaughn I guess you missed this post which I posted before your first > post [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > than the > NIDCR." No, I saw it. It was not helpful. Vaughn > ...yet the ADA loudly proclaims a lack of proof for amalgam toxicity.... _I_ loudly claim a lack of replacement material... that's it, that's all. SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOT >_I_ loudly claim a lack of replacement material... You are loud, other than that you are a liar. > >StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOT > > >_I_ loudly claim a lack of replacement material... > > You are loud, other than that you are a liar. Educating the ignorant: Why don't you try to place a white filling in a wet and bloody field? Why don't you follow those fillings for two and five years, and then compare them to the worst placed Amalgam that you could have done? Why don't you go follow a low or medium end dentist around for a week, and then come back here and try to honestly say that all your preaching is relevant to the REAL WORLD? SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >REAL WORLD? >SP -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE One of these people is posting while drunk ; Stovepipe, Vaughn, JE, WB. Guess which one? >One of these people is posting while drunk ; >Stovepipe, Vaughn, JE, WB. Guess which one? Multiple/multiple ? Sure. Pick only one answer. 01) A 02) B 03) C 04) D 05) A and B 06) A and D 07) B and C 08) All of the above 09) None of the above 10) Only CubicAirconia -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > >One of these people is posting while drunk ; > >Stovepipe, Vaughn, JE, WB. Guess which one? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE 08 with a bit of heavier emphasis on '''D''' ;-) Hey.... it's OK.... just don't kill anybody with the car... SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >>One of these people is posting while drunk ; >>Stovepipe, Vaughn, JE, WB. Guess which one? Okay open your CD-tray and blow hard into the Breathalyzer ....... >Multiple/multiple ? >Sure. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >09) None of the above >10) Only CubicAirconia >>One of these people is posting while drunk ; >>Stovepipe, Vaughn, JE, WB. Guess which one? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >09) None of the above >10) Only CubicAirconia 10 ? .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. >One of these people is posting while drunk ; >Stovepipe, Vaughn, JE, WB. Guess which one? I guess.... --- ... ---- . . : . - . . ---- CZ .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. > >One of these people is posting while drunk ; > >Stovepipe, Vaughn, JE, WB. Guess which one? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. Are you really as big a clueless jackass as you pretend to be? >> Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. >> Troy, Michigan, USA >> >> Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor >handwriting. >Are you really as big a clueless jackass as you pretend to be? It appears that CubicZirconia has insulted himself once again. Watching CluelessAirconia crash and burn has lost the appeal that it once was. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >From: StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOTnet (StovePipe) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> You are loud, other than that you are a liar. >Educating the ignorant: http://www.dentalcomposites.com/LISTcomposite.htm > >Educating the ignorant: > > http://www.dentalcomposites.com/LISTcomposite.htm DISCLAIMER Note to the interested: this individual <<Jan Drew>> has never tried to place composite or amalgam dental material in a wet and bloody field inside the mouth. In fact this individual is not a dentist, and therefore is not qualified to speak on the merits and limitations of these materials. This individual's instructing me on how/when to use different materials is analogous to me (a licenced dentist) trying to advise a practicing psychiatrist on the state of this individual's mental health. Evaluate this individual's general attitude in her posts here, past and present, and judge for yourself. Thank You SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >Subject: Disclaimer. Was:Well said, Senator! >From: StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOTnet (StovePipe) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >place composite or amalgam dental material in a wet and bloody field >inside the mouth Irrelevant. _I_ loudly claim a lack of replacement material... that's it, that's all. SP http://www.dentalcomposites.com/LISTcomposite.htm >In fact this individual is not a dentist, and >therefore is not qualified to speak on the merits and limitations of these materials. LOL. Poor Pipe has never heard of dentists who use NO amalgam. >This individual's instructing me on how/when to use different materials WOW! Do show us this innstructing. Pipe, stop LYING! <snip> >Evaluate this individual's general attitude in her posts here, past and >present, and judge for yourself. My general attitude is to stop the LYING, like YOU just did. *IF* you have an unanswered health problem,,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH! NOT by a mainstream dentist, but an Alt. dentist who KNOWS the dangers of metalin the mouth and root canals, and follows correct protocol. I did, it saved my life .Mercury is Poisonous.There is NO safe form of Mercury in living tissue.The mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the other sources together. U151 identifies mercury as a toxic waste.Mercury is also recovered from discarded products and wastes such aschlor-alkali wastes, dental amalgams, fluorescent light tubes, electronicdevices, and others. The mercury is vaporized in a retort and collected bycondensation. Condensed mercury is then distilled to remove impurities.* The Environmental Protection Agency is working to reduce the amount ofmercury in the environment http://www.ehs.ucsf.edu/Manuals/CSM/Csm_Chapter9.htm 17. DENTAL AMALGAMDental amalgams are mixtures of mercury with silver tin alloy. Cal-EPAregulates them as ***chemical waste.*** Submit Chemical Waste Removal Form for its disposal. Jan You're right, everyone else is wrong and LIARS, now do you feel better to cut it out already! UM MOM Susan > >Subject: Disclaimer. Was:Well said, Senator! >>From: StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOTnet (StovePipe) [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > Jan >Subject: Re: Disclaimer. Was:Well said, Senator! >From: "Sdores" sdores@bellsouth.net >Date: 12/19/2004 11:29 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <xAkxd.15304$Z27.2181@bignews5.bellsouth.net> > >You're right, everyone else is wrong and LIARS Incorrect. now do you feel better Clearly Pipe LIED. I suggest you look up WHY I hate lying. > >Subject: Disclaimer. Was:Well said, Senator! >>>From: StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOTnet (StovePipe) [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] >> >> Jan > But seriously why don't you try reading the document. > Here's a discussion topic: How come the NIDCR doesn't > publish many of its studies? because of their pro-amalgam > nature? Why don't you try to place a white filling in a wet and bloody field? Why don't you follow those fillings for two and five years, and then compare them to the worst placed Amalgam that you could have done? Why don't you go follow a low or medium end dentist around for a week, and then come back here and try to honestly say that all your preaching is relevant to the REAL WORLD? SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOTnet (StovePipe) >Why don't you >Why don't you >Why don't you > REAL WORLD? http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf > >StovesNewAddy@sympatico.DOTnet (StovePipe) > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf Get off your butt and go harass the governmental authorities to move on Amalgam replacement research. You are petitioning the wrong end of the problem; both here and on DentalTown. SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >Get off your butt and go harass the governmental authorities to move on >Amalgam replacement research. You are petitioning the wrong end of the >problem; both here and on DentalTown. >SP Dearest SP, Don't fight... Wait ! Do not heed my advice. I bow to the true master... Sun Tsu (alt spelling Sun Tzu) Here are just a few nuggets: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 17. According as circumstances are favorable, one should modify one's plans. 18. All warfare is based on deception. 19. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. 20. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him. 22. If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > >Get off your butt and go harass the governmental authorities to move on > >Amalgam replacement research. You are petitioning the wrong end of the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Here are just a few nuggets: > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ..... > W_B > > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Take out the G'RBAGE Ah-HAAA!!!! FamiliPrix!!! SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >Get off your butt... >SP ...modify the 'Subject Line' in order to: 3. Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans; the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces; the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field; and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities. IOW Do not propagate g@rb@ge -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > IOW > Do not propagate g@rb@ge Yes, Oh learned One, but then what else is one to do? The moratorium is not the solution, IMO, and I cannot run her down with my 1965 Pontiac Parisienne. SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet That's not my job. Informing me that an amalgam you place leaks significant levels of mercury is YOUR job. What gives dentists the right to make medical risk/benifit decsions for patients? Isn't practicing medicine without a liscence illegal. As for the real world, the real world is that people like me end up getting posioned with complications and having their lives ruined and millions are exposed to levels of Hg they shouldn't be. THAT is reality. >That's not my job. Informing me that an amalgam you place leaks >significant [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >patients? >Isn't practicing medicine without a liscence illegal. It would if amalgam were harmful. Its not. Joel >As for the real world, the real world is that people like me end up >getting >posioned with complications and having their lives ruined and millions >are exposed to levels of Hg they shouldn't be. THAT is reality. >That's not my job. Informing me that an amalgam you place leaks >significant [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >getting >posioned with complications and having their lives ruined and millions I thought it was the malingerers barking at the dentists ..... Joel >are exposed to levels of Hg they shouldn't be. THAT is reality. >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >From: "Vaughn" vaughnsimonHATESSPAM@att.fake.net [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Vaughn Forgive him, Clinton, Vaughn has always tried to protect the ADA, and has no compassion for anyone except his wife. The conflict of interest is of no interest to him A pity he attacks the messenger and gets personal. In fact the Senator said it well. Those who prefer to remain in denial, get personal. http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf Jan >Forgive him, Clinton, Vaughn has always tried to protect the ADA, and has no >compassion for anyone except his wife. > >The conflict of interest is of no interest to him MORE GOOD HUMOR from Jan ...... Vaughn protecting the ADA ....... Hey Vaughn! Got your check this month yet? Jan wants to know. Joel PS- I got mine on the 6th. > >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! > >From: "Vaughn" vaughnsimonHATESSPAM@att.fake.net [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Jan That's what irritates me the most, when people say one thing but mean another. What do you think the chances are he will read the link and actually discuss it? 0. What do think are the chances he didn't read the link before posting? 0. I have to admit though that the reason the ADA got this far with the sham operation at NIDCR and using amalgam is the active ignorance and denial of the public. These discussions are kind of like trying to convince the Romans that it's not a good idea to put lead in the pipes. >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >From: clintonz@prodigy.net [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >are kind of like trying to convince the Romans that it's not >a good idea to put lead in the pipes. Yep! When I posted the ADA owes no legal duty to protect the public, he took off in all kinds of directions to protect them. http://tinyurl.com/64gv5 http://tinyurl.com/64gv5 Jan >Yep! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Jan Jan I had no idea you ever said anyone lies ....... ADA lies 1 Jan Dec 30 2001 2 Renate Ratlos Dec 31 2001 3 oN Dec 31 2001 4 Renate Ratlos Dec 31 2001 5 tasha Dec 31 2001 6 Renate Ratlos Jan 1 2002 7 oN Jan 1 2002 8 Dr Hans Lennros Jan 1 2002 9 oN Jan 2 2002 10 vaughn simon Dec 31 2001 11 Vaughn Simon Jan 1 2002 12 Steven Fawks Jan 3 2002 13 Jan Jan 3 2002 14 Vaughn Simon Jan 3 2002 15 Jan Jan 3 2002 16 Vaughn Simon Jan 4 2002 17 Jan Jan 4 2002 18 Vaughn Simon Jan 5 2002 19 Jan Jan 5 2002 Diogenes meets Pinocchio 20 Vaughn Simon Jan 5 2002 The ADA LIES 21 Steven Fawks Jan 9 2002 22 Jan Jan 9 2002 23 Vaughn Simon Jan 10 2002 24 Jan Jan 10 2002 25 Vaughn Simon Jan 10 2002 26 Jan Jan 10 2002 DeNial, More than just a river 27 Vaughn Simon Jan 11 2002 The ADA LIES 28 garden_state Jan 11 2002 29 garden_state Jan 5 2002 30 Jan Jan 5 2002 31 Renate Ratlos Jan 3 2002 > ... These discussions > are kind of like trying to convince the Romans that it's not > a good idea to put lead in the pipes. I´d guess they knew (the Romans), for "lead in the pipes" would prevent the water from flowing. Peter Signature-History of fluorine, fluoride and fluoridation-: --- http://PMeiers.bei.t-online.de/index.htm --- ---------------------------------------------------- or in the aquaduct. Similar to how amalgam is an irreplaceable material. >or in the aquaduct. Similar to how amalgam is an irreplaceable material. They had mercury fillings in the aqueduct. >> ... These discussions >> are kind of like trying to convince the Romans that it's not >> a good idea to put lead in the pipes. > >I´d guess they knew (the Romans), for "lead in the pipes" would prevent >the water from flowing. Jan Drew was against mercury fillings, even then. >Peter > That's what irritates me the most, when people say one thing > but mean another. Read my lips: What I mean is that it irritates me when people post a bare link. You admitted that you did it dishonestly. > What do you think the chances are he will > read the link and actually discuss it? Zero. Now that I know we are discussing amalgam, I am no longer interested. I am not a dentist. When it comes to amalgam, I simply don't have a dog in that fight. > 0. What do think are > the chances he didn't read the link before posting? 100% I NEVER go to the link when some a.shole posts a bare link. Got it? Vaughn (This will be the end of our interaction on smd.) Of course you haven't read it. you never intended to read it nor will you ever read it. >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >From: "Vaughn" vaughnsimonHATESSPAM@att.fake.net [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Read my lips: What I mean is that it irritates me when people post a >bare link. Well, Duh, a pdf can't be copied. >You admitted that you did it dishonestly. Now Vauighn is lying. >> What do you think the chances are he will >> read the link and actually discuss it? > Zero. Now that I know we are discussing amalgam, I am no longer >interested. Just like I said, Vaughn has no interest in it, just an interest in what happend to his wife. >I am not a dentist. When it comes to amalgam, I simply don't have >a dog in that fight. *i-don'-t-want-to-be-informed-attitude* Vaughn is another suck up here. >> 0. What do think are >> the chances he didn't read the link before posting? > > 100% Very telling. > I NEVER go to the link when some a.shole posts a bare link. Got it? A pfd can't be copied. > Vaughn (This will be the end of our interaction on smd.) Right, chicken, suck up. Jan > These discussions > are kind of like trying to convince the Romans that it's not > a good idea to put lead in the pipes. These discussions will never convince YOU that people just will not permit their carious teeth to be extracted to fit into your model of 'What the World Should Be.' SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet > > http://www.toxicteeth.org/lautenberg-letter.pdf > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Vaughn This is the second or third time Clinton has run this one up the flagpole. Why post the same thing twice? T Jan posted something on this before but that wasn't the actual letter to the NIH director was it? Did her post also mention the large number of unpublished studies at NICDR. Maybe it did, I'll have to check. Show me where "I" posted this information once or twice before. That's pure baloney. You think I don't know what I post? >Subject: Re: Well said, Senator! >From: "Tony Bad" spamspamspam@bakedbeans.spam [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >T Proving the dentists here are desperate to not face the facts, and then they lie. Searched all groups Results 1 - 1 of 1 for clintonz@ prodigy . net wrote http :// www .toxicteeth. org /lautenberg- letter .pdf (0.06 seconds) Furthermore, Joel repeats himself constantly. 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