Dentist wants $1000 for a sinus lift... Does this sound reasonable.. More
importantly, are there any risks involved.. infection, etc. I am very leary
about invasive surgery. Any opinions would be appreciated.
Thank you, Ken
>Dentist wants $1000 for a sinus lift... Does this sound reasonable..
Depending on how it is done, your location and the type of graft
material, this is a steal.
>More
>importantly, are there any risks involved.. infection, etc.
Sounds like questions you should have asked your surgeon.
You already named one, which could be orally or within the sinus.
usually looking at less than 2% chance of infection. As long as the
sinus membrane isn't torn, this will heal uneventfully.
Numbness to the cheek & upper teeth may occur but I have never seen it
permanent.
Care must be taken not to injure the adjacent tooth roots if they are
present.
Every now & then I will have a patient with a minor nose bleed but
these procedures are generally well tolerated even with impressive
cheek swelling that may involve the lower eyelid.
> I am very leary
>about invasive surgery. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
>Thank you, Ken
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ken - 10 Dec 2004 20:06 GMT
thank you Dr. King for your input. I sent my panarex
over to him so that he can check the length of my sinus. He extracted #5 (#4
is long gone). I will probably crown #3 with a post/core buildup.
He wanted to do a bone graft ($100) at the time of extraction but I wanted
to wait until I could determine whether I was going with the implants or a 5
unit bridge
(#2-6). Do implants usually take? He told me that I could have the bone
graft either at the time of extraction or later if I decide to go with
implant.
Ken
> >Dentist wants $1000 for a sinus lift... Does this sound reasonable..
>
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> HTTP://WWW.DEOMFS.COM
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 11 Dec 2004 01:08 GMT
> thank you Dr. King for your input. I sent my panarex
> over to him so that he can check the length of my sinus. He extracted #5 (#4
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> to wait until I could determine whether I was going with the implants or a 5
> unit bridge
You should have had the graft done #1 to preserve the ridge regardless
of implant or bridge, #2 you now have a sinus surgery which you could
have avoided because you changed your mind.
You really needed to sit down with your dentist and discuss your teeth
have a definitive plan as to how you wanted your teeth to be years from
now. Making your mind up as you go along is too wishy washy and the end
result is usually comprimised. It is very difficult to get people to
understand this and sometimes I wonder if patients realize that they
are making a mistake. Your current situation is a classic example.
Good Luck with your surgery.
> (#2-6). Do implants usually take? He told me that I could have the bone
> graft either at the time of extraction or later if I decide to go with
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> > Fellow, American Association of OMS
> > HTTP://WWW.DEOMFS.COM
ken - 11 Dec 2004 18:02 GMT
> > thank you Dr. King for your input. I sent my panarex
> > over to him so that he can check the length of my sinus. He extracted
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> are making a mistake. Your current situation is a classic example.
> Good Luck with your surgery.
I think there is some misunderstanding.. I just had #5 removed a few days
ago.
At that time I questioned my dentist about implants. He said he would need
to see my
panarex to determine whether a sinus lift was necessary. I sent him the
xrays
yesterday. I do not understand your comment that I "have a sinus surgery
that
I could have avoided because you changed your mind". I am awaiting his
assessment as to whether I need one which will be determined at the time
that he reads my xrays. If I do need one, is there a problem if I have the
graft
done at the same time that he does the lift.. He said there would not be a
problem
if I understood him correctly.
I understand you are saying that a graft should be done regardless but I do
not understand your comments about avoiding a sinus lift.
Regards, Ken
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 11 Dec 2004 19:23 GMT
If you had the tooth removed and the root of the tooth was not in the
sinus (no perforation) and it had adequate length and there was no
issue if thin bone or damaged bone due to extraction then you could
have had the implant placed that day.
Now if you did not make up your mind yet implant or bridge then
obviously no implant placement. However ideally a decision was needed
at that visit and you were not ready to make it, hence a compromise may
have occured.
Otherwise the socket should have been grafted and the implant placed
after the graft heals.
if your #5 had very short roots, then you would need the sinus lift.
You could have had the graft done during extraction and then more
grafting during the sinus lift.
If during the extraction bone around the tooth was comprimised or it
has compromised due to gum disease (periodontitis) then I could
understand waiting for the graft to heal prior to implant placement.
Your dentist may be more conservative and that may explain the separate
procedures or like you were told maybe the panorex machine was not
available or maybe a consult with the oral surgeon was necessary and
for some reason that was not done yet.
Ken if you are having these questions you are not done discussing your
treatment options. You need to understand better the "why" and the "why
not the other way". I am not aware of the details of your case and
perhaps there are very good reasons why things are being done this way,
but in order to make the right decisions you need to understand those
reasons clear enough so that you can explain them to others. I do need
see that yet from your posts.
Remember statisticaly patients remember 50% of what is told to them
from the consultation. There is just too much information and it can
get overwelming.
The last thing I want you to do is to say that you are getting advice
from a newsgroup but if our conversation raised some questions in your
mind you need to have those answered so that you are in control of your
treatment.
> > > thank you Dr. King for your input. I sent my panarex
> > > over to him so that he can check the length of my sinus. He extracted
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>
> Regards, Ken
ken - 11 Dec 2004 19:38 GMT
> If you had the tooth removed and the root of the tooth was not in the
> sinus (no perforation) and it had adequate length and there was no
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> at that visit and you were not ready to make it, hence a compromise may
> have occured.
Dentist was awaiting panarex to determine length of sinus. He only had a
xray of the tooth but could not see the sinus. Do you agree that he needs to
see the length of sinus on an xray before determining whether the implant
could have ben done at this time.
> Otherwise the socket should have been grafted and the implant placed
> after the graft heals.
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>
> If during the extraction bone around the tooth was comprimised
Bone was compromised
> Your dentist may be more conservative and that may explain the separate
> procedures or like you were told maybe the panorex machine was not
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> mind you need to have those answered so that you are in control of your
> treatment.
Thank you for the information.
Ken
> > > > thank you Dr. King for your input. I sent my panarex
> > > > over to him so that he can check the length of my sinus. He
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> >
> > Regards, Ken
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 11 Dec 2004 20:38 GMT
Dentist was awaiting panarex to determine length of sinus. He only had
a
xray of the tooth but could not see the sinus. Do you agree that he
needs to
see the length of sinus on an xray before determining whether the
implant
could have ben done at this time.
Yes that information is helpful.especially if you are placing an
implant longer than the original tooth since the socket is compromised
and you do not want to go with a more wider implant.
ken - 11 Dec 2004 19:41 GMT
Dr Vasserman.
When a sinus lift is performed I understand that the graft heals better if
the material is from within your own body rather than external....but how
long do you normally, on an average , have to wait after an uplift before
the implant can be inserted.
Thank you, ken
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 11 Dec 2004 20:35 GMT
4-6 months if done as a separate surgery.
As I said there are surgeons (and there is a technique for this )that
place the implant and do the sinus surgery at the same visit
Joel M. Eichen - 10 Dec 2004 20:41 GMT
>>Dentist wants $1000 for a sinus lift... Does this sound reasonable..
>
>Depending on how it is done, your location and the type of graft
>material, this is a steal.
Dave,
A funny line ,,,,,,, can be taken several ways .......
Joel
weezie - 11 Dec 2004 07:15 GMT
What is a sinus lift? Why is it performed?
-Weezie