Did Dan lie and say he had answered my questions when if fact he had not???

You see being caught in that lie makes Dan resentful.

HIS lies caused this resentment.

This resentement causes MORE lies and insults.

Since Dan still can NOT answer pointed questions, he repeats this thread.

In a nut shell, because they can't answer my pointed questions.

For instance, Dan couldn't, but LIED and said he did.

Correction:

I post the research and scientific proof and studies.

That ruffles the feathers of the dentists here, ALL except Steve Bornfeld who
is the ONLY honest dentist here.

Uh huh.

Time for this again.

(A bit of background, Dan was raising a fuss about abstracts, then got cuagh in
his on trap, of diversion. I posted the below and asked the dsntist to answer
my questions, two did, but didn't continue to discuss when more pointed
questions were asked. Dan didn't discuss at all, he did his usual Joel syndrome
nonsense thing, which teling me all about his education)

Summary Brief Abstract Citation MEDLINE ASN.1 XML/SGML LinkOut Related
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 1: Stomatologiia (Mosk) 1997;76(4):9-11 Related Articles, Books
[Patterns of mercury release from amalgam fillings into the oralcavity].[

Article in

Seventy-five subjects aged 20 to 57 with 1 to 15 fillings of silver amalgamwere
examined. The level of mercury vapors in the oral cavity was assessed using>an
AGP-01 device and the method developed by the authors. Emission
ofmercury>vapors in the oral cavity increased with the number of fillings. The
concentration of mercury in the oral cavity depends largely on the number of
silver amalgam fillings and less so on these fillings' length of service

.AdvDent Res 1992 Sep;6:110-3

Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Side-effects: mercury contribution to
body burden from dental amalgam.Reinhardt JW.Department of Operative Dentistry,
University of Iowa College of Dentistry,Iowa City 52242.

The purpose of this paper is to examine and report on studies that relate
mercury levels in human tissues to the presence of dental amalgams, giving
special attention to autopsy studies. Until recently, there have been
fewpublished studiesexamining the relationship between dental amalgams and
tissue mercury levels. Improved and highly sensitive tissue analysis techniques
have made it possible to measure elements in the concentration range of parts
per billion. The fact that mercury can be absorbed and reach toxic levels in
humantissues makes any and all exposure to that element of scientificinterest.

Dental amalgams have long been believed to be of little significance as
contributors to the overall body burden of mercury, because the elemental form
of mercury is rapidly consumed in the setting reaction of the restoration

.Studies showing measurable elemental mercury vapor release from dental
amalgams have raised renewed concern about amalgam safety.

Mercury vapor absorption occurs through the lungs, with about 80% of the
inhaled vapor being absorbed by the lungs and rapidly entering the bloodstream.

Following distribution by blood circulation, mercury can enter and remain in
certain tissues for longer periods of time, since the half-life of excretion is
prolonged.

Two of the primary arget organs of concern are the central nervous system and
kidneys.

Publication Types: Review Review, Tutorial PMID: 1292449 [PubMed - indexed
for MEDLINE] 1: FASEB J 1990 Nov;4(14):3256-60 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut

Comment in: FASEB J. 1991 Feb;5(2):236.

Whole-body imaging of the distribution of mercury released from dental fillings
into monkey tissues.Hahn LJ, Kloiber R, Leininger RW, Vimy MJ, Lorscheider
FL.Department of Radiology, University of Calgary, Faculty of
Medicine,Alberta,Canada.

The fate of mercury (Hg) released from dental "silver" amalgam tooth fillings
into human mouth air is uncertain. A previous report about sheep revealed
uptake routes and distribution of amalgam Hg among body tissues. The
present investigation demonstrates the bodily distribution of amalgam Hg in a
monkey whose dentition, diet, feeding regimen, and chewing pattern closely
resemble those of humans.

When amalgam fillings, which normally contain 50% Hg, are made with a tracer of
radioactive 203Hg and then placed into monkey teeth, the isotope appears in
high concentration in various organs and tissues within 4wk. Whole-body images
of the monkey revealed that the highest levels of Hg werel ocated in the
kidney, gastrointestinal tract, and jaw.

****The dental profession's advocacy of silver amalgam as a stable tooth
restorative material is not supported by these findings.****PMID:

2227216 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

1: Neurotoxicology 1983 Fall;4(3):201-4 Related Articles, Books,LinkOut

Mercury toxicity and dental amalgam.Wolff M, Osborne JW, Hanson AL.There is

placement,results in the release of Hg into the patient's body. Whether the Hg
released from amalgam is due to placement procedures, surface abrasion, orl
ater corrosion breakdown, there is evidence that a low level Hg release
continues for years.

****It is generally agreed that if amalgam was introduced today as a
restorative material, they would never pass F.D.A. approval.****

With new and more accurate techniques of measuring Hg levels, especially in
tissue and blood, additional studies are necessary to relate blood-Hg levels
with dental amalgam restorations. Studies must relate existing restorations as
well as the placement of new restorations to body-Hg levels.

****It is possible that we have accepted a potentially dangerous material as
being
safe.*****

Publication Types: Historical Article PMID: 6361623
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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My words:

Now do show us all our education and tell us all about these abstracts and
studies, and WHY you don't believe them.

I will be waiting.

Dan wrote:

I wrote:

Ah ah. Let me repeat:

No do show us all your education and tell us about these abstracts and studies
and WHY you don't believe them.

Questions for you:

Medline has many abstracts.

Wonder why?

Furthermore I have posted many sudies as well. Which one did you agree with???

Now do show us all our education and tell us all about these abstracts and
studies, and WHY you don't believe them.

Cover these points:

Emission of mercury vapors in the oral cavity increased with the number of
fillings.

(why is that?)

The concentration of mercury in the oral cavity depends largely on the number

The purpose of this paper is to examine and report on studies that relate

special attention to autopsy studies.

The fact that mercury can be absorbed and reach toxic levels in
human tissues makes any and all exposure to that element of scientific
interest.

(reach toxic levels, could this come from amalgams? It says makes *any*
and*all*)

Studies showing measurable elemental mercury vapor release from
dental amalgams have raised renewed concern about amalgam safety.

Mercury vapor absorption occurs through the lungs, with about 80% of the
inhaled vapor being absorbed by the lungs and rapidly entering the bloodstream.

(Where does these mercury vapor come from??)

Following distribution by blood circulation, mercury can enter and remain in
certain tissues for longer periods of time, since the half-life of excretion is
prolonged. Two of the primaryt arget organs of concern are the central

(The central nervous system ah, you don't suppose my PN came from the same
place as my mercury poisoning do you?)

Whole-body imaging of the distribution of mercury released from dental fillings
into monkey tissues

(is mercury released from amalgams??)

The present investigation demonstrates the bodily distribution of amalgam Hg in
a
monkey whose dentition, diet, feeding regimen, and chewing pattern closely
resemble those of humans.

When amalgam fillings, which normally contain 50% Hg, are made with a tracer of
radioactive 203Hg and then placed into monkey teeth, the isotope appears in
high concentration in various organs and tissues within 4wk.

(now tell us how safe they are)

restorative material is not supported by these findings.****PMID:

(time to us show all that edcuation)

There is adequate evidence that dental amalgam restorations, during and after
placement, results in the release of Hg into the patient's body.

(do note the word adequate, I don't see, any *not credible* *real* *convining*
*hard* *clear-cut* *significant* *substantial* *solid**reasonable**compelling*
do you?)

(I see adequate.)

(What does that mean??)

Whether the Hg is due to placement procedures, surface abrasion, orl ater
corrosion breakdown, there is evidence that a low level Hg release continues
for years.

(could this cause mercury poisoning??)

(do you agree and if so why?)

It is possible that we have accepted a potentially dangerous material as
being safe.

(and your answer?)

You see, this is just an example of why I had the metal removed. I did my own
research and it matters not whether it comes from an abstract or a study.

I would like to hear the answers from ALL dentists here, and I will even remove
my block from Joel and see if he can answer without blathering.

ONE AND ALL SHOW US *YOUR* EDUCATION!!!

anything else she can find on the
Misinformation Highway that she thinks will support abandonment of mainstream
dentistry.

The Misinformation comes from the lying ADA and AMA. and those here who are of
the:

*I-don't-want-to-be-informed-attitude*

What I did. was looked at reasearch and made the decision to get the metal
removed, AFTER I had gone throught the gamut of conventional medicine WITH NO
ANSWERS, all the while my health deteriorating.

to discuss some of the URLs, abstracts and articles that she posts

See above.

None sell snake oil.

ZZzz, the ususal insulting.

When others have tried to debate

See above.

LOLOLOL. Do take a look at the politeness of Dan.

Wrong. I call lies when there are lies, and I prove it with the posters own
words. The FACT is; lying is rampant here.

LOL.

Dan does a great deal of insulting, as well as the others dentists and suck
ups.

All can see who does the insulting, who is childish and who stoops to their OWN
low levels.

. Unfortunately, this has been the only effective way to interact with her.

Well, no, it is a CHOICE, and it happens because my pointed questions can't be
answered, and the insults flow.

The bible isn't a  trump card. I did indeed quote from it when necessary.

I have never played games here however, that's exactly what the dentists and
suck ups do, when they can't answer pointed questions.

They aren't *MY* views, the websites are written by researchers, chemists,
toxicologists, DDS's and MD's.

who are ready to take your money, give you
false hope, or worse.

There is the denial all so rampant here.

Simply read the science, the evidence, the study and the proof. Then read my
message, not it starts with *IF*

I have helped others and will continue.

IF* you have an unanswered health problem,,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH!

NOT by a mainstream dentist, but an Alt. dentist who KNOWS the dangers of
metalin the mouth and root canals, and follows correct protocol.

I did, it saved my life

.Mercury is Poisonous.There is NO safe form of Mercury in living tissue.The
mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the other
sources together.

U151 identifies mercury as a toxic waste.Mercury is also recovered from
discarded products and wastes such aschlor-alkali wastes, dental amalgams,
fluorescent light tubes, electronicdevices, and others.

The mercury is vaporized in a retort and collected bycondensation. Condensed
mercury is then distilled to remove impurities.*

The Environmental Protection Agency is working to reduce the amount ofmercury
in the environment

http://www.ehs.ucsf.edu/Manuals/CSM/Csm_Chapter9.htm

17. DENTAL AMALGAMDental amalgams are mixtures of mercury with silver tin
alloy. Cal-EPAregulates them as ***chemical waste.*** Submit Chemical Waste
Removal Form for its disposal.

Jan

..... and she claims her bridge partner is God. Not George Burns
either, the real One.

Joel