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More Improvements From Removal Of Amalgams

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Jan - 07 Dec 2004 23:30 GMT
The semi-informed strangely believe the only reason amalgams should be replaced
is because they are fugly.

http://tinyurl.com/5ddzt
   
Altern Ther Health Med. 2000 Jul;6(4):49-55.    Related Articles, Links

Results of dental amalgam removal and mercury detoxification using DMPS and
neural therapy.

Kidd RF.

Sixty consecutive patients who had undergone replacement of dental amalgam
fillings and a protocol of nutritional support and heavy metal detoxification
using dimercapto-propanyl-sulfate and neural therapy were surveyed. A
questionnaire was mailed to the patients and 42 responded, resulting in a
response rate of 70%. The reasons for undergoing treatment were many, ranging
from a patient's desire to avoid potential health problems in the future to
treatment of serious current disease. Although medical diagnoses were made when
possible before treatment, this survey studied only the patients' estimations
of their most distressing symptoms and their evaluations of response to
treatment. The most common complaints were problems with memory and/or
concentration; muscle and/or joint pain; anxiety and insomnia; stomach, bowel,
and bladder complaints; depression; food or chemical sensitivities; numbness or
tingling; and eye symptoms, in descending order of frequency. The most
distressing symptoms were headache and backache, fatigue, and memory and
concentration problems. Headache and backache responded best to treatment, but
all symptoms showed considerable improvement on average. Of the respondents,
78% reported that they were either satisfied or very satisfied with the results
of treatment, and 9.5% reported that they were disappointed.

PMID: 10895513 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
ChuckMSRD - 07 Dec 2004 23:48 GMT
>Results of dental amalgam removal and mercury detoxification using DMPS

These two were certainly key components in my recovery.

Chuck
http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/chuck_balzer.html
Tony Bad - 08 Dec 2004 01:12 GMT
> >Results of dental amalgam removal and mercury detoxification using DMPS
>
> These two were certainly key components in my recovery.
>
> Chuck
> http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/chuck_balzer.html

Not to re-hash old stuff, but as we discussed a while back, the steps that led
to your recovery were broad and wide, and while the "key components" you mention
could very well have been the key factors, there is no way you, I, or anyone can
be certain. Not saying you are wrong, just that your case was inconclusive
because so many things went on at the same time.

http://tinyurl.com/5t7u7

T
Jan - 08 Dec 2004 02:34 GMT
>Subject: Re: More Improvements From Removal Of Amalgams
>From: "Tony Bad" spamspamspam@bakedbeans.spam
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>
>Not to re-hash old stuff,

I knew it, once again it was the peas.

Jan
ChuckMSRD - 08 Dec 2004 12:08 GMT
>Not to re-hash old stuff, but as we discussed a while back, the steps that
>led
>to your recovery were broad and wide,

Understood. I believe that although fish was the main source of my poisoning,
22 old and many large amalgams, played a role in my poisoning. Add to that the
exacerbation I had in symptomology after every amalgam removal - this is my
definitive conclusion.

Chuck
clintonz@prodigy.net - 08 Dec 2004 12:56 GMT
> >Not to re-hash old stuff, but as we discussed a while back, the steps that
> >led
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>
> Chuck

Chuck, I got the first effects in my 20's too and no fish,
it takes about 5-10 years for the fillings they (some) place in
your teens to come apart. Especially those copper/palladium ones, they
are nasty as sh.t. I don't want to get into a big
discussion here, but I think it's a huge mistake to think
that all amalgams are the same. Did you ever check your dental
records or question the dentist who placed them?
Steven Fawks - 08 Dec 2004 16:20 GMT
I would not say this is typical.  I see amalgams that are 20-50 years
old every day that are not 'coming apart'.  I get to monitor a few of
the ones that I placed from 1979-1984 also.  I've rarely needed to
replace any.  I mainly used Tytin®.

Amalgams do fail.  Usually it's related to recurrent decay (have I ever
mentioned soft drinks?).  Sometimes a crack forms in the tooth and part
of the tooth breaks away from the filling.

Overall, I have been very impressed with the durability of *most* dental
work.  There are a few dips that couldn't place a decent restoration if
their life depended on it and there are a few materials that leave a lot
to be desired.  There are also a few patients who develop cavities about
as fast as I can fix them (have I ever mentioned soft drinks?).

JME,
Fawks

> it takes about 5-10 years for the fillings they (some) place in
> your teens to come apart.
ChuckMSRD - 09 Dec 2004 09:58 GMT
> Did you ever check your dental
>records or question the dentist who placed them?
>Clinton

I received almost all of them as a child, so I know that my Doc is retired and
may even be deceased.

Chuck
Joel M. Eichen - 09 Dec 2004 13:42 GMT
>> Did you ever check your dental
>>records or question the dentist who placed them?
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>
>Chuck

Did you notice any improvements in Break Dancing after removal?

Joel
ChuckMSRD - 08 Dec 2004 12:14 GMT
This is what passes for research these days. If you feel this little abstract
says anything important, those letters after your name must have come from a
crackerjack box.

T September 3rd, 2003

I forgot you said this  shame on you Tony!
I cite many solid refereences in my testimony, many that even the DDS's here
have not disputed. Read our whole discussion below, those who wish to, and come
to your own conclusion.

Chuck
>http://tinyurl.com/5t7u7
Tony Bad - 08 Dec 2004 15:45 GMT
> This is what passes for research these days. If you feel this little abstract
> says anything important, those letters after your name must have come from a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Chuck
> >http://tinyurl.com/5t7u7

I was young and foolish then...I believe I apologized for that comment, but if
not, I do apologize now. We had a civil discussion after I started it rather
uncivilly, and as I have written before, I respect your willingness to discuss
these matters rationally. We may not agree, but I have no personal issues with
you. Again, I apologize for that comment.

T
ChuckMSRD - 09 Dec 2004 09:59 GMT
> Again, I apologize for that comment.
>
>T

No problem Tony. I kind of meant it as a joke regarding our first "meeting".
You have been very civil, even in stark disagreement.

Chuck
Joel M. Eichen - 09 Dec 2004 13:43 GMT
>> Again, I apologize for that comment.
>>
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>
>Chuck

Tony is always a gentleman ......
Tony Bad - 09 Dec 2004 15:11 GMT
> >> Again, I apologize for that comment.
> >>
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>
> Tony is always a gentleman ......

Oooooh...I am going to print and frame this!

T
ChuckMSRD - 09 Dec 2004 16:48 GMT
>> Tony is always a gentleman ......
>>
>Oooooh...I am going to print and frame this!
>
>T

Yes, need to be pull that out as a reminder when the wife, girfriend, family
member.... thinks otherwise ;-)

Chuck
Tony Bad - 09 Dec 2004 18:23 GMT
> >> Tony is always a gentleman ......
> >>
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>
> Chuck

Well...if the wife finds out about the girlfriend, I don't think this will help!

(;^P)

T
Jan - 09 Dec 2004 23:07 GMT
>Subject: Re: More Improvements From Removal Of Amalgams
>From: "Tony Bad" spamspamspam@bakedbeans.spam
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>
>T

LOL.

Joel hardly ever says it.

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Joel M. Eichen - 09 Dec 2004 23:21 GMT
>>> >> Again, I apologize for that comment.
>>> >>
>>> >>T

Thanks Jan, we accept your apology.

Joel
Joel M. Eichen - 09 Dec 2004 23:38 GMT
>>>> >> Again, I apologize for that comment.
>>>> >>
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>
>Joel

HERE

http://tinyurl.com/303c
Joel M. Eichen - 08 Dec 2004 04:13 GMT
>The semi-informed strangely believe the only reason amalgams should be replaced
>is because they are fugly.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/5ddzt
>   
>Altern Ther Health Med. 2000 Jul;6(4):49-55.    Related Articles, Links

ALTERN HEALTH THERAPY>

Jan are those medical doctors?

>Results of dental amalgam removal and mercury detoxification using DMPS and
>neural therapy.
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>
>PMID: 10895513 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
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