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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / December 2004Which dentists here do not use amalgam?
I do not want to know why or if you think amalgam is good or bad. Just if you primarily do NOT use amalgam to restore teeth for which it (amalgam) would, in normal practice, be an option. I for one do not use amalgam unless absolutely no other material would work (ie deep subgingival decay on distal of #1...you catch the drift) -- I got teeth Still confused. Do you want to know if we 1) use amalgam at all 2) use amalgam primarily 3) use amalgam occasionally ????  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... >I do not want to know why or if you think amalgam is good or bad. Just if > you primarily do NOT use amalgam to restore teeth for which it (amalgam) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- > I got teeth Okay, a simpler version: Do you avoid using amalgam? > Still confused. Do you want to know if we > 1) use amalgam at all [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > -- > > I got teeth Do you mean not use it all? Or, use it only when you have extraordinary circumstances? I don't get what you are trying to ask. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Okay, a simpler version: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> > -- >> > I got teeth >Do you mean not use it all? Or, use it only when you have extraordinary >circumstances? I don't get what you are trying to ask. As we already know, I never use amalgam any more. Joel But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, would you be willing to use it again if you found yourself in a dental clinical setting again? Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >>Do you mean not use it all? Or, use it only when you have extraordinary [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Joel >But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, would you be willing to use it again if you found >yourself in a dental clinical setting again? I had slowed way down with amalgam perhaps doing five or ten per year. This was after encouragement primarily by Steve Fawks and others ,,,,,,, and of course, my own learning experience through teaching! The main reason I was not so interested in amalgam any longer was that patients never think of me as "behind the times." Amalgam kind of holds one back. Now you are another story as you are as up-to-date as possible in so many apsects of your practice! And of course, the newer composites are simply great. Joel Does that mean I get partial credit or partial blame? <G> Fawks > I had slowed way down with amalgam perhaps doing five or ten per year. > This was after encouragement primarily by Steve Fawks and others > ,,,,,,, and of course, my own learning experience through teaching! > Joel > Does that mean I get partial credit or partial blame? <G> > > Fawks > > > I had slowed way down....... just that part. carabelli >Does that mean I get partial credit or partial blame? <G> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> This was after encouragement primarily by Steve Fawks and others >> ,,,,,,, and of course, my own learning experience through teaching! CREDIT! Of course. I expanded my horizons with what we can do with composite! Joel >> Joel Steve, come on man, I know you know what I mean. > Do you mean not use it all? Or, use it only when you have extraordinary > circumstances? I don't get what you are trying to ask. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >> > -- > >> > I got teeth >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >From: "The Real Paul" no@no.no >Date: 12/7/2004 9:00 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <9lltd.9535$714.6643@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> > >Steve, come on man, I know you know what I mean. He does this dance when he can't come clean with an answer. Pointed, honest questions are mostly avoided here. Jan >> Do you mean not use it all? Or, use it only when you have extraordinary >> circumstances? I don't get what you are trying to ask. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >> >> > -- >> >> > I got teeth >>Steve, come on man, I know you know what I mean. > >He does this dance when he can't come clean with an answer. Break Dance? Just when I was forgettin' ........ >Pointed, honest questions are mostly avoided here. > >Jan Do you want to know who does not use it at all? or, who only uses it sometimes? Avoid using it could be taken both ways. Personally, I use amalgam when the patient absolutely wants the cheapest alternative. When I am trying to buy a year or three on an open margin of a crown, When restoring the buccal, the lingual or the distal surface of second and third molars. When patching endo access in a full gold crown. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Steve, come on man, I know you know what I mean. > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >> >> > -- >> >> > I got teeth >Do you want to know who does not use it at all? or, who only uses it >sometimes? Avoid using it could be taken both ways. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >crown, When restoring the buccal, the lingual or the distal surface of >second and third molars. When patching endo access in a full gold crown. YUP, and with extremely deep, non-isolatable, circumstances ....... amalgam can go in around saliva ... composite NEVER! Its poor technique but still better than extraction. First choice might be crown lengthening plus crown, but that costs dough. Joel >>Do you want to know who does not use it at all? or, who only uses it >>sometimes? Avoid using it could be taken both ways. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Its poor technique but still better than extraction. First choice > might be crown lengthening plus crown, but that costs dough. In most cases, I can generally get good isolation and place something indirectly. But, I am not going to cut away the occlusal surface of a solid tooth so that I can place an indirect restoration on the distal surface of a second molar. This morning I placed an indirect restoration on a second molar that was 2-3 mm subgingival from the ML line angle to the DL line angle. Dead-soft matrix band and a good wedge, gave total isolation from gingival fluids and blood. I just had to keep saliva off long enough to etch, hydrate, BA, and seat. I have nice flat (paddle shaped) tips for my mechanical amalgam condensers. They vibrate the amalgam into places you cannot reach to condense by hand. This is NOT like the old gold foil vibrators which beat up and down. These simply vibrate like a model vibrator. All you have to do is get the tip on the alloy and it will vibrate into place very well. This is great for those times you find some caries under a crown margin, cut a small window in the crown, clean out all the caries visually and tactually, and want to make the crown last for a while longer. You can pack amalgam up inside this hole much better than you can by hand. In the ancient days,,,,,,,, I would sometimes use these devices to pack amalgam cores without using a matrix. You can do it. Amalgam does and always will have a place in dentistry, no matter how small. >From: "Dr Steve" nospam@home.net >Amalgam does and always will have a place in dentistry, no matter how small. So you think you are God and can look into the future? Truth is, it should have never been used! Get with the times, amalgam is on its way out. Swed Dent J Suppl 1992;85:1-52 The future of dental amalgam: a review of the literature. Part 7: Possible alternative materials to amalgam for the restoration of posterior teeth. This is the last in a series of articles on the future of dental amalgam. It considers possible alternative materials to amalgam for the restoration of posterior teeth. The materials discussed are gold inlays, gold foil, gallium alloys, and tooth coloured non-metal alternatives including glass-ionomer cements, composite resins, glass-ionomer-resin hybrids, compomers and ceramics. The clinical indications for these restorations are first described along with their potential clinical problems and their mean survival rates in comparison with dental amalgam. Secondly, the safety of composite resins is considered and potential toxic and hypersensitive effects of these materials are discussed. Finally, it is concluded that the present evidence does not appear to demonstrate that dental amalgam is hazardous to the health of the general population. It does, however, recommend that in continuing to use amalgam dentists must use strict mercury hygiene procedures to avoid risk to their staff and contamination of the environment. It seems that mercury contamination of the environment is likely to be the main reason for any future government action against the continued clinical use of dental amalgam. >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >From: "Dr Steve" nospam@home.net [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Personally, I use amalgam when the patient absolutely wants the cheapest >alternative. Do you have the risks posted in the office?? >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >From: "Dr Steve" nospam@home.net [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Do you mean not use it all? Or, use it only when you have extraordinary >circumstances? I don't get what you are trying to ask. LOL!!! Do you avoid using amalgam? >Okay, a simpler version: > >Do you avoid using amalgam? We avoid the noid. >> Still confused. Do you want to know if we >> 1) use amalgam at all [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> > -- >> > I got teeth My material choices include Composite, Glass Ionomer, Gold, & Porcelain (usually fused to noble metal). I haven't used amalgam for a long time. Fawks > Okay, a simpler version: > > Do you avoid using amalgam? >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >From: Steven Fawks tuthjockey@earthlink.net [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Fawks The questioned was asked of Dr Steve, not you. Jan >> Okay, a simpler version: >> >> Do you avoid using amalgam? | | /|||| \ / > | > | > /|||| > \ / *chortle* -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? I thought it was appropriate. <G> Fawks > > | > > | [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Adenosine > Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? I think this is a question for dentists not hippies Jan. I think there is a newsgroup for the legalization of marijuana elsewhere. I personally have placed 1 amalgam since school. The person wanted to save $5 so I didn't use composite. jwn dds > >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >>From: Steven Fawks tuthjockey@earthlink.net [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> >>> Do you avoid using amalgam? >I think this is a question for dentists not hippies Jan. I think there is a >newsgroup for the legalization of marijuana elsewhere. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >jwn dds People who are for legalization of soft drugs don't want to be associated with anybody like Jan. She couldn't explain the constitutional reasons that drug prohabition is illegal if her life depended on it. Person wanted to save $5 bux with the amalgam? Some people's choices amaze me. -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? > Person wanted to save $5 bux with the amalgam? Some people's choices > amaze me. Yeah I personally don't like doing amalgams. It takes me longer to do one than a composite nowadays. jwn dds >>I think this is a question for dentists not hippies Jan. I think there is a >>newsgroup for the legalization of marijuana elsewhere. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >People who are for legalization of soft drugs don't want to be >associated with anybody like Jan. Come to think of it, those who want free use of soft DFRINKS do not like what she says either ...... > She couldn't explain the >constitutional reasons that drug prohabition is illegal if her life >depended on it. > >Person wanted to save $5 bux with the amalgam? Some people's choices >amaze me. Since I practice ortho exclusively - No. If I was practicing general dentistry - probably carabelli >>>I think this is a question for dentists not hippies Jan. I think there is a >>>newsgroup for the legalization of marijuana elsewhere. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Come to think of it, those who want free use of soft DFRINKS do not >like what she says either ...... DRINKS as well as DFRINKS ...... >> She couldn't explain the >>constitutional reasons that drug prohabition is illegal if her life >>depended on it. >> >>Person wanted to save $5 bux with the amalgam? Some people's choices >>amaze me. >>>People who are for legalization of soft drugs don't want to be >>>associated with anybody like Jan. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >DRINKS as well as DFRINKS ...... I thought you were talking about a new Aphex Twin album. -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? >>>>People who are for legalization of soft drugs don't want to be >>>>associated with anybody like Jan. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I thought you were talking about a new Aphex Twin album. I figured he was trying to keep the post from coming up in a google search for soft drinks. >>I think this is a question for dentists not hippies Jan. I think there is >>a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Person wanted to save $5 bux with the amalgam? Some people's choices > amaze me. I have had patients leave my office because of a $1.50 co-pay which they didn't want to pay. >>>I think this is a question for dentists not hippies Jan. I think there is >>>a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >I have had patients leave my office because of a $1.50 co-pay which they >didn't want to pay. I am not sure you MUST collect it ,,,, however you must ASK for it. Joel Today, you skip the $1.50, next time they expect you to drop the $40.00. Soon, they want a new denture for $120.00 Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >>>>I think this is a question for dentists not hippies Jan. I think there [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Joel >Today, you skip the $1.50, next time they expect you to drop the $40.00. >Soon, they want a new denture for $120.00 You mean a raise? >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >From: "JWN DDS" bob@bob.com >Date: 12/7/2004 9:41 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <6Xltd.458582$%k.321674@pd7tw2no> > >I think this is a question for dentists Wow, you are certainly sharp, JWN Which *dentists* here do not use amalgam? >not hippies Jan. Without a doubt. Otherwise it would read: Which hippies here do not use amalgams. >I think there is a >newsgroup for the legalization of marijuana elsewhere. Irrelevant. >I personally have placed 1 amalgam since school. The person wanted to save >$5 so I didn't use composite. Do you have the dangers of amalgams posted in your office? >jwn dds Jan >> >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >>>From: Steven Fawks tuthjockey@earthlink.net [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>>> >>>> Do you avoid using amalgam? >My material choices include Composite, Glass Ionomer, Gold, & Porcelain >(usually fused to noble metal). I haven't used amalgam for a long time. > >Fawks I like the Chromatech all porcelain veneers and mini-crowns. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > Okay, a simpler version: > > Do you avoid using amalgam? No, but some of my patients do. T My choice is to not use amalgam for selfish reasons. I have a totally unfounded feeling that being exposed to the mercury vapor just cannot be good for me over and over again when placing it. That is the main reason I don't like to use it. Sometimes, though it seems unavoidable. I hear it can make comprehension of written language difficult with repeated exposure. (jk) > > Okay, a simpler version: > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > T > My choice is to not use amalgam for selfish reasons. I have a totally > unfounded feeling that being exposed to the mercury vapor just cannot be > good for me over and over again when placing it. That is the main reason I > don't like to use it. Sometimes, though it seems unavoidable. I hear it can > make comprehension of written language difficult with repeated exposure. > (jk) Life is toxic. There are bigger concerns. T >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >From: "Tony Bad" spamspamspam@bakedbeans.spam [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >T Cop out. A large concern is the ruining of the environment. I guess Tony's grandchildren are of no concern. Mercury is one of the most highly toxic metals known to man. That's more than enough reason to STOP placing it in people within inches of the brain. http://www.tracemin.com/presentation/Brazil_Comparison/tsld009.htm Jan >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >From: "The Real Paul" no@no.no [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >good for me over and over again when placing it. That is the main reason I >don't like to use it That's a step forward. Do you think it mght also be bad for your patients? > Sometimes, though it seems unavoidable. I hear it can >make comprehension of written language difficult with repeated exposure. Here's some other things you might like to read. Mercury on the Mind >> by Donald W. Miller, Jr., MD >> Although they afflict widely different age groups, autism and >> Alzheimer's disease share a common cause: mercury. Dr. Boyd Haley, >> professor and chair of the chemistry department at the University of >> Kentucky, and Dr. Bernard Rimland, founder of the Autism Research >> Institute, presented evidence at this year's Doctors for Disaster >> Preparedness meeting that connects mercury with these diseases. >> This heavy metal is highly poisonous. A Dartmouth professor studying >> the chemical characteristics of an organic form of mercury - dimethyl [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> generated killed him quickly. The two other family members in the >> house at the time also died. >> Mercury is one proton (neutron and electron) heavier than gold - the >> atomic number of gold is 79; mercury, 80. It is distributed throughout [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> than the disease), human exposure to mercury today comes principally >> from three sources: dental amalgams, vaccines, and fish. >> Elemental mercury when released by a dental amalgam is inhaled and (80 >> percent of it) absorbed by the lungs and retained in the body. Vaccine [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> from plankton that synthesize it from inorganic mercury extracted from >> the sea. >> Currently the two most important sources of mercury exposure for >> Americans are dental amalgams and vaccinations. The Federal [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> that the NIH will not fund studies that address mercury in amalgams >> and vaccines. >> In lockstep with the government, the American Dental Association (ADA) >> claims that amalgams are safe, and the mercury in them poses no [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> rodents, sheep, and primates; and clinical studies in children and >> adults. >> Autism was discovered in 1943, in American children, twelve years >> after ethyl mercury (thimerosal) was added to the pertussis vaccine. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> in other developmental disorders as well, such as delayed speech and >> attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. >> Investigators have shown that there is a direct relationship between >> increasing doses of mercury in vaccines and autism. In the 1950s, with [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> come down with this disease, and currently one in every 68 families in >> America has an autistic child. >> Mainstream medical journals, like Pediatrics and The New England >> Journal of Medicine, only publish studies that claim thimerosal is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> journals like the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, where >> this one was published. >> The amount of damage a given dose of mercury can do to the brain (and >> also the heart) depends on one's age, sex, and genetically determined [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> body of mercury. The brain has a house-cleaning protein that removes >> dangerous waste products, which comes in three varieties: APO-E2, >> APO-E3, and APO-E4. The APO-E2 protein can carry 2 atoms of mercury >> out of the brain; APO-3, one; and AOP-E4, none. The genes we acquire >> from each parent determine which two we have. People with two APO-E4 >> proteins (and thus no APO-E2 or -E3) have an 80 percent chance of >> acquiring Alzheimer's disease. And according to one study, autistic >> children have a huge preponderance of APO-E4 protein in their brains. >> Alzheimer's disease was discovered in 1906, again in America, where >> dentists used mercury-laden amalgams to fill cavities (dentists in >> Europe largely avoided them). Today, more than 4 million Americans now >> have Alzheimer's disease. It afflicts half of people over the age of >> 85 and 20 percent aged 75 to 84. >> The first symptoms of this disease are difficulty concentrating and >> variable degrees of memory loss, leading ultimately to devastating [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> doses of mercury, an amount approximating that found in the brains of >> people who have a lot of amalgam fillings. >> Dental amalgams are the main source of mercury in an adult's brain. An >> average-sized amalgam filling contains 750,000 micrograms of mercury [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> levels in their brains that are 2 to 3 times higher than that seen in >> normal people. >> The mercury in flu vaccines also plays a role in this disease. One >> investigator has found that people who received the flu vaccine each >> year for 3 to 5 years had a ten-fold greater chance of developing >> Alzheimer's disease than people who had zero, 1, or 2 shots. >> Another important factor with regard to mercury on the mind, which >> officials at the CDC, FDA and the professors in the IOM do not [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> that have a 1 percent mortality will have a 100 percent mortality rate >> if some aluminum is there. Vaccines contain aluminum. >> Why do officials at the CDC, FDA, and leaders of the medical and >> dental establishment discount or ignore all these important facts? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> it is violently opposed. And third, it is accepted as self-evident. >> The mercury truth is now in the second stage. >> In the 1790s Edward Jenner observed that milk maids did not have pock >> marks on their faces, like people did who had contracted and survived [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> that Soviet microbiologists grew vast quantities of it in chicken eggs >> for use as a biological weapon of mass destruction.) >> Today the medical establishment, led by the AAP, AAFP, AMA, CDC, and >> IOM, has gone to the other extreme. The accepted wisdom now is that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> paragraphs in this 1,230-page book. They do not address concerns that >> have been raised about its neurotoxicity. >> Vaccine manufacturers have started removing thimerosal from vaccines. >> And for the first time since the state began keeping records on this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> remaining supply of thimerosal-containing vaccines, which the FDA has >> chosen not to recall. >> Taking mercury out of vaccines would substantially reduce the >> incidence of autism, but this alone will not eliminate the disease. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> the brain s immune system and, via the mechanism of "bystander >> injury," destroy brain cells. >> Much more research needs to be done on the neurotoxicity of mercury >> and excessive vaccination. Dr. Haley terms autism Mad Child Disease. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Disease, however, the government spends $59.00 in research for every >> case of autism diagnosed in this country. >> Avoiding flu shots that contain thimerosal, and having dentists stop >> implanting mercury amalgams in people's mouths would lower the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> who follows the protocol established by The International Academy of >> Oral Medicine & Toxicology for safely removing them. >> For the third source of mercury, follow the CDC's advice and don't eat >> mercury-contaminated fish, especially if you are pregnant because >> mercury in your bloodstream crosses the placenta and is concentrated >> in the fetus' brain. >> Recommended Reading - in addition to the online links provided above >> An excellent review of thimerosal and autism, titled "Mercury in >> Medicine - Taking Unnecessary Risks," is to be found, of all places, >> in the Congressional Record. Prepared by its Subcommittee on Human >> Rights and Wellness, this report was presented to the Committee on >> Government Reform, chaired by Congressman Dan Burton (who has an >> autistic grandson). Congressional Record, May 21, 2003, E1011-E1030. >> SafeMinds president, Lyn Redwood, presented testimony at a >> Congressional hearing held on September 8, 2004 that exposes [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Brief Analysis of Recent Efforts in Medical Mercury Induced >> Neurological and Autism Spectrum Disorders" (September 8, 2004). >> "The Three Modern Faces of Mercury" in fish, vaccines, and >> dental amalgams by Thomas Clarkson in Environmental Health >> Perspectives Volume 110 | Supplement 1 | February 2002 | pages 11-23. >> This study provides an current-day perspective on mercury exposure, >> post Calomel, Merthiolate, and Mad Hatters. >> If your dentist parrots the American Dental Association stance on this >> subject and says that "silver" - i.e., mercury - amalgams are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> dentists - to a mercury-free one and had him remove all my amalgam >> fillings. >> "Mercury: the Silent Killer," Chapter 3 in Health and Nutrition >> Secrets That Can Save Your Lifeby Russell L. Blaylock, M.D. As a >> board-certified neurosurgeon, Dr. Blaylock, like me, is a member of >> the medical establishment. He now, however, studies and writes about >> wellness and complementary/alternative medicine on a full-time basis. >> Are Vaccines Safe and Effective? by Neil Z. Miller (2002). This >> 78-page (paperback) book is well worth reading, especially if you have >> children or if you are being pressured to get a flu shot. >> For a comprehensive review, with 167 scientific references, on how >> vaccines damage infants - and soldiers' brains (Gulf War Syndrome) >> when given too close together, see Dr. Blaylock's "Interaction of >> Cytokines, Excitotoxins, Reactive Nitrogen and Oxygen Species in >> Autism Spectrum Disorders" in the Journal of the American >> Nutraceutical Association (JANA 2003;6[4]:21-35). See also his study, >> "Chronic Microglial Activation and Excitotoxicity Secondary to >> Excessive Immune Stimulation: Possible Factors in GulfWar Syndrome and >> Autism" in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (JAPS >> 2004;9[2]:46 - 52). Dr. Blaylock has written a simplified version of >> these studies for the general public titled "Vaccines: the Hidden >> Dangers," in his Blaylock Wellness Report (Vol. 1, No. 1), which is >> published monthly and can be purchased online. >> September 29, 2004 >> Donald Miller (send him mail) is a cardiac surgeon and Professor of >> Surgery at the University of Washington in Seattle and a member of >> Doctors for Disaster Preparednessand writes articles on a variety of >> subjects for LewRockwell.com, including bioterrorism.His web site is >> www.donaldmiller.com. >That's a step forward. > >Do you think it mght also be bad for your patients? Jan, why act like a nut? Ok, yes, I guess a step forward, but to what? I only decide not to place it for the previously mentioned reasons. I personally have 7 amalgams and I'm not running off to have them replaced. But, if they ever need to be replaced, then I will have composite put in. And the thing there at the end of my last post about reduced reading comprehension was just a jab at Steve for giving me a hard time with my initally posted question, not a plea for more info.... > >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? > >From: "The Real Paul" no@no.no [quoted text clipped - 360 lines] > >> subjects for LewRockwell.com, including bioterrorism.His web site is > >> www.donaldmiller.com. I really never did figure out if you were looking for no use of amalgam, or just using it in specific instances. So I posted a response for either intent. Did I get it answered for you? BTW, thanks for picking on me, it makes me feel cared for :-) Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Ok, yes, I guess a step forward, but to what? I only decide not to place > it [quoted text clipped - 372 lines] >> >> subjects for LewRockwell.com, including bioterrorism.His web site is >> >> www.donaldmiller.com. >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >From: "Dr Steve" nospam@home.net [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I really never did figure out if you were looking for no use of amalgam, or >just using it in specific instances Uh huh. This is so very hard to understand. Do you avoid using amalgam? Now, Where is Dan and what was it he said about *MY* playing games?? Oh well, just another lie exposed. Jan I have come to the conclusion that lying is normal in 1998. Because the >majority finds it to some degree acceptable, they will allow themselves to >be persuaded by liars. The catch is, you can lie, but if someone who is >opposed to your position, or with the power to broadcast to the world, can >find out you're lying you risk exposure and humiliation. >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >From: "The Real Paul" no@no.no [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >not running off to have them replaced. But, if they ever need to be >replaced, then I will have composite put in. Very, very wise. >And the thing there at the end >of my last post about reduced reading comprehension was just a jab at Steve >for giving me a hard time with my initally posted question, not a plea for >more info.... Yes, I knew that. >> >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >> >From: "The Real Paul" no@no.no [quoted text clipped - 361 lines] >> >> subjects for LewRockwell.com, including bioterrorism.His web site is >> >> www.donaldmiller.com. >Very, very wise. Jan, it just is not poison in the dose that escapes the filling ...... micrograms! Joel >My choice is to not use amalgam for selfish reasons. I have a totally >unfounded feeling that being exposed to the mercury vapor just cannot be >good for me over and over again when placing it. That is the main reason I >don't like to use it. Sometimes, though it seems unavoidable. I hear it can >make comprehension of written language difficult with repeated exposure. >(jk) Some dentists adjust to it by holding their breath while doing the entire amalgam! FAST JOB too. Joel >> > Okay, a simpler version: >> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> T I tried that.... > >My choice is to not use amalgam for selfish reasons. I have a totally > >unfounded feeling that being exposed to the mercury vapor just cannot be [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >> > >> T >Subject: Re: Which dentists here do not use amalgam? >From: "Tony Bad" spamspamspam@bakedbeans.spam [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >T So should you. I guess you are't concerned that amalgams are dangerous, and dentists are ruining the environment. Jan |
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