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Another question - retreatment of root canal

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Discordia - 01 Dec 2004 18:51 GMT
One of the things I'm looking at very shortly is getting a tooth that
I had a root canal done on seven years ago "surgically retreated".
Now, the cost of doing this, with the crown works out to around
$2500cdn.  The cost of an implant is around $2900cdn.   I'm told that
the retreated tooth should last my lifetime, I suspect the same could
be said of the fake tooth.Which is the better option?
Adenosine - 01 Dec 2004 18:52 GMT
>One of the things I'm looking at very shortly is getting a tooth that
>I had a root canal done on seven years ago "surgically retreated".

An apiecomotomy (spelling)? If that's the case... then why do you need
a new crown?

>Now, the cost of doing this, with the crown works out to around
>$2500cdn.  The cost of an implant is around $2900cdn.   I'm told that
>the retreated tooth should last my lifetime,

Your natural tooth didn't last, and nothing a dentist can put in your
mouth is going to be better than the original.

>I suspect the same could
>be said of the fake tooth.Which is the better option?

I think that we'd need to see at least an x-ray to know...

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Adenosine
Semi-informed Dental Consumer ?
W_B - 01 Dec 2004 20:48 GMT
>>One of the things I'm looking at very shortly is getting a tooth that
>>I had a root canal done on seven years ago "surgically retreated".
>
>An apiecomotomy (spelling)? If that's the case... then why do you need
>a new crown?

apicoectomy.
May be a combined treatment type case.

>>Now, the cost of doing this, with the crown works out to around
>>$2500cdn.  The cost of an implant is around $2900cdn.   I'm told that
>>the retreated tooth should last my lifetime,
>
>Your natural tooth didn't last, and nothing a dentist can put in your
>mouth is going to be better than the original.

Hmmm... generally true, but we haven't seen the tooth in question.

>>I suspect the same could
>>be said of the fake tooth.Which is the better option?
>
>I think that we'd need to see at least an x-ray to know...

My thoughts exactly.
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W_B

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Joel M. Eichen - 01 Dec 2004 19:33 GMT
>One of the things I'm looking at very shortly is getting a tooth that
>I had a root canal done on seven years ago "surgically retreated".
>Now, the cost of doing this, with the crown works out to around
>$2500cdn.  The cost of an implant is around $2900cdn.   I'm told that
>the retreated tooth should last my lifetime,

Hard to say ....

> I suspect the same could
>be said of the fake tooth.Which is the better option?
Steven Fawks - 01 Dec 2004 20:44 GMT
I can't say which is 'best', but two things to consider:

Retreatments are not as effective as initial treatments.

Nothing lasts forever.

Fawks

> One of the things I'm looking at very shortly is getting a tooth that
> I had a root canal done on seven years ago "surgically retreated".
> Now, the cost of doing this, with the crown works out to around
> $2500cdn.  The cost of an implant is around $2900cdn.   I'm told that
> the retreated tooth should last my lifetime, I suspect the same could
> be said of the fake tooth.Which is the better option?
Discordia - 01 Dec 2004 22:16 GMT
Well, I was told it has as good a chance of lasting as any root canal,
and he think it should last my lifetime.  By that, I gather he thinks
its not in too bad of shape.  I have looked at the x-ray, btw, what
I'm I supposed to look for?  (BTW, the tooth never had a crown, that's
probably why it has to be redone).  My concern was that I didn't want
to spend nearly $3000 only to spend another $3000+ ten years from now
on the same tooth.  I don't know if my teeth are even worth this much
(my wife thinks so).

>I can't say which is 'best', but two things to consider:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> the retreated tooth should last my lifetime, I suspect the same could
>> be said of the fake tooth.Which is the better option?
Fawks - 02 Dec 2004 05:02 GMT
Google at home has changed to some weird stuff (for now anyway).  I
use a regular news reader at the office.  If this isn't in synch,
sorry.

Anyway, for similar money and the % success, the implant is more
predictable over retreatment (IMO).

Fawks
W_B - 02 Dec 2004 17:32 GMT
>Google at home has changed to some weird stuff (for now anyway).  I
>use a regular news reader at the office.  If this isn't in synch,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Fawks

In a blind guess I would agree.

If we could view a radiograph my opinion may change.

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W_B

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Take out the G'RBAGE
Discordia - 02 Dec 2004 19:12 GMT
>>Google at home has changed to some weird stuff (for now anyway).  I
>>use a regular news reader at the office.  If this isn't in synch,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>If we could view a radiograph my opinion may change.

Okay.  Well, this guy is the specialist every dentist in town
recommends for root canal work, and his is very confindent it will
work.  Does that make a difference?
Adenosine - 02 Dec 2004 19:21 GMT
>>>Google at home has changed to some weird stuff (for now anyway).  I
>>>use a regular news reader at the office.  If this isn't in synch,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>recommends for root canal work, and his is very confindent it will
>work.  Does that make a difference?

Well, I think you have to realize that without being able to see a
radiographs, that we all all throwing darts with a blindfold on. I
doubt that he would recommend any treatment plan if he wasn't
confident that the treatment would be sucessful, especially when the
option of implants exist.

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Adenosine
Semi-informed Dental Consumer ?
Dr Steve - 02 Dec 2004 19:28 GMT
>>>Google at home has changed to some weird stuff (for now anyway).  I
>>>use a regular news reader at the office.  If this isn't in synch,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> recommends for root canal work, and his is very confindent it will
> work.  Does that make a difference?

nope

I would want to know why conventional RCT cannot be re-treated first.
W_B - 02 Dec 2004 23:14 GMT
>>>Google at home has changed to some weird stuff (for now anyway).  I
>>>use a regular news reader at the office.  If this isn't in synch,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>recommends for root canal work, and his is very confindent it will
>work.  Does that make a difference?

Depends on the town and the experience and ablility of the practitioner
in question. Endodontist ?  Usually a safe bet.
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W_B

Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Discordia - 02 Dec 2004 23:24 GMT
>>>>Google at home has changed to some weird stuff (for now anyway).  I
>>>>use a regular news reader at the office.  If this isn't in synch,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Depends on the town and the experience and ablility of the practitioner
>in question. Endodontist ?  Usually a safe bet.

Yes, an Endodonist.
W_B - 03 Dec 2004 01:10 GMT
>>Depends on the town and the experience and ablility of the practitioner
>>in question. Endodontist ?  Usually a safe bet.
>
>Yes, an Endodonist.

Where and who ?

Please reply privately and I will check my sources.

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W_B

wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
Dr Steve - 02 Dec 2004 13:54 GMT
No Crown?  then, why not re-treat in a conventional manner?

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Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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>
> Well, I was told it has as good a chance of lasting as any root canal,
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>> the retreated tooth should last my lifetime, I suspect the same could
>>> be said of the fake tooth.Which is the better option?
W_B - 01 Dec 2004 20:45 GMT
>One of the things I'm looking at very shortly is getting a tooth that
>I had a root canal done on seven years ago "surgically retreated".
>Now, the cost of doing this, with the crown works out to around
>$2500cdn.  The cost of an implant is around $2900cdn.   I'm told that
>the retreated tooth should last my lifetime, I suspect the same could
>be said of the fake tooth.Which is the better option?

Increasing the number of procedures done on any single tooth
decreases the likelyhood of sucessfully retaining that tooth.

Without an xray this is just a supposition and a rule of thumb.

Many here would advocate the implant.
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W_B

Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Dr Steve - 01 Dec 2004 21:12 GMT
If a fracture is reasonably suspected, do NOT attempt the apicoectomy as you
will only make the site less optimal for implant placement.

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
....................................................

This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
......................

>
>>One of the things I'm looking at very shortly is getting a tooth that
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Discordia - 01 Dec 2004 22:20 GMT
>If a fracture is reasonably suspected, do NOT attempt the apicoectomy as you
>will only make the site less optimal for implant placement.

I don't think he suspects a fracture, at least, he didn't say so.  He
suspects that the cap didn't hold up, and it failed through this.  He
said there's been some decay inside the tooth, but to my untrained
eyes, it looks okay.  Just about every dentist in town sends their
patients to him, and his highly trusted, so should I follow his
advice?  I don't want to go through this again, however.
 
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