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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / December 2004Bleaching
Is tooth bleaching where the dentist gives you the trays and gels to use effective? Is it better or worse than Brite Smile? They are charging $149 for the trays/gel. Is that good? KJ P.S. Thanks! >Is tooth bleaching where the dentist gives you the trays and gels to >use effective? Is it better or worse than Brite Smile? They are [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >P.S. Thanks! Yeah kinda, But I like the stuff from Vanna White. Joel >Is tooth bleaching where the dentist gives you the trays and gels to >use effective? Is it better or worse than Brite Smile? They are [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >P.S. Thanks! I guess the trays are better ... maybe! >Is tooth bleaching where the dentist gives you the trays and gels to >use effective? Yes, it is. >Is it better or worse than Brite Smile? About the same but slower. You forgot Zoom! Do you want faster or slower ? The ultimate result is somewhat comparable. IMO the Zoom! produces superior results to 4-6 wk. tray bleaching. YMMV. >They are >charging $149 for the trays/gel. Is that good? Depends on the quality of the trays and the quality of the gel. >KJ > >P.S. Thanks! For what ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > Is tooth bleaching where the dentist gives you the trays and gels to > use effective? Is it better or worse than Brite Smile? They are [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > P.S. Thanks! that is an EXCELLENT price, if the trays are custom made. I tend to think they would be stock trays at that price, though. SP  SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >that is an EXCELLENT price, if the trays are custom made. I tend to >think they would be stock trays at that price, though. >SP They are having me come in to get an impression of my teeth, so I think they would be custom. When they quoted the price, maybe $149 was just for the impression/trays. Maybe they are going to charge more for the gel. I don't even know what kind of gel they use, they never said. This particular dentist kinda treats you like an assembly line (Monarch Dental) so who knows what I am in for. Thanks again. >>that is an EXCELLENT price, if the trays are custom made. I tend to >>think they would be stock trays at that price, though. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks again. For a professional bleaching with trays, this is a very low fee. I certainly don't break out the fee for the bleach. I buy the bleach fresh, and a kit to bleach 2 arches costs maybe $55. I charge patients $200 per arch. Personally I don't like making the trays--the material is tough to trim neatly. I usually tell patients who want to try bleaching to try the Crest whitening strips first. Steve "Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinnospam@earthlink.net> wrote .................. > For a professional bleaching with trays, this is a very low fee. I > certainly don't break out the fee for the bleach. I buy the bleach fresh, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Steve I'm curious, what material do you use. I have been using Essix "Embrace" for suck down retainers (hard and pretty clear). It took a while but I figured out how to trim them quickly. carabelli > "Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinnospam@earthlink.net> wrote .................. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > carabelli I use the matrix material with the Ultradent kit. I've also used the stuff from Discus, which is similar. I still occasionally use reservoirs, though I understand some studies show they don't help. I have an electric pencil which I believe is made by Buffallo Dental, but it makes a pretty sloppy cut, so I usually wind up trimming with crown and bridge shears anyhow. Maybe I should use harder material. What is the guage of the Embrace? Steve "Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinnospam@earthlink.net> wrote............. > Maybe I should use harder material. What is the guage of the Embrace? > > Steve I'm pretty sure it's 1 mm. I'll check tomorrow. They make some less rigid products that I use occasionally (not bleaching - retainers - don't want to step on anybody's toes) - same deal with the trimming. With the Embrace, I break out the plaster, cut with Mayo scissors, trim with an arbor band, knock off the flash with a really dull buffalo lab knife and then run over the edges lightly with........ I dunno, can't think of the name. I just go to the hardware store and buy it. It's a very open weave, carborundum impregnated sheet, for finishing drywall joints or repairs. I cut it into little strips, use it on the upper and lower and then toss it. Dan Just looked on my tool bench. Drywall sanding screen. Keep a few pieces in you office for several months and you'll use it on a bunch of stuff. > "Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinnospam@earthlink.net> wrote............. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Just looked on my tool bench. Drywall sanding screen. Keep a few pieces in > you office for several months and you'll use it on a bunch of stuff. Interesting tip, and considering I've been through Invisalign and am still using the retainers (which are probably a heavier-guage material than Embrace) with no discomfort, I have no reason to believe they would be any more uncomfortable than the soft stuff I've been struggling with--thanks!! Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 "Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote ........... > Interesting tip, and considering I've been through Invisalign and am > still using the retainers (which are probably a heavier-guage material [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steve Just checked, they are 1.0 mm and there is also a 0.75 mm. > Just checked, they are 1.0 mm and there is also a 0.75 mm. Don't have my handy metric conversion rule handy--I've got temp. splint material that is .02"--I think that's about 1/2 mm. My tray stuff is .15"--I think that's close to 4 mm. I think the clear .02" stuff should work quite nicely--thanks again! Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >> Just checked, they are 1.0 mm and there is also a 0.75 mm. > > Don't have my handy metric conversion rule handy--I've got temp. splint >material that is .02"--I think that's about 1/2 mm. My tray stuff is >.15"--I think that's close to 4 mm. I think the clear .02" stuff should >work quite nicely--thanks again! OK. 2.54 centimers equals one inch. 25.4 millimeters equals one inch. (Similarly 35 mm film is around one and one-half inches). so, 0.5mm / 25.4 = X / one (inch). 0.01968 or 0.02! Good job! 4mm divided by 25.4 eqals 0.1574 or 0.16! Another good job. Measurement in millimeters divided by 25.4 equals measurement in inches! >Steve That stuff is good for smoothing off the plaster after articulating a set of models. In a couple of minutes, you can make the articulated case look 1000% better. And, it is much smoother on your hands. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > "Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinnospam@earthlink.net> wrote............. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Just looked on my tool bench. Drywall sanding screen. Keep a few pieces > in you office for several months and you'll use it on a bunch of stuff. >That stuff is good for smoothing off the plaster after articulating a set of >models. In a couple of minutes, you can make the articulated case look >1000% better. And, it is much smoother on your hands. Sorry I missed this ~ what stuff? Joel Drywall sanding screen. I usually just keep some wet-n-dry sandpaper around for this duty. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >>That stuff is good for smoothing off the plaster after articulating a set [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Joel I bought a good pair of surgical scissors for trimming these trays, and restrict its use to ONLY trimming bleaching trays. I use a pair with a slight curve to the beaks. Makes it easier and faster. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >> "Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinnospam@earthlink.net> wrote [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Steve > I bought a good pair of surgical scissors for trimming these trays, and > restrict its use to ONLY trimming bleaching trays. I use a pair with a > slight curve to the beaks. Makes it easier and faster. Thanks. I've used surgical scissors too, but the soft material still comes out looking a little ratty. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >> I bought a good pair of surgical scissors for trimming these trays, and >> restrict its use to ONLY trimming bleaching trays. I use a pair with a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Steve The trick is to make one smooth cut from embrasure to embrasure. .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. >>>I bought a good pair of surgical scissors for trimming these trays, and >>>restrict its use to ONLY trimming bleaching trays. I use a pair with a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The trick is to make one smooth cut from embrasure to embrasure. What if my hands shake from...oh, never mind. Steve > .. > Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. > Troy, Michigan, USA > > Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltwinnospam@earthlink.net> wrote .................. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >carabelli Am currently using the Zoom! tray material. Flexible and easy to trim with crown and collar shears. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>that is an EXCELLENT price, if the trays are custom made. I tend to >>>think they would be stock trays at that price, though. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > For a professional bleaching with trays, this is a very low fee. I >certainly don't break out the fee for the bleach. Loss-leader ..... Joel > I buy the bleach >fresh, and a kit to bleach 2 arches costs maybe $55. I charge patients [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Steve >>that is an EXCELLENT price, if the trays are custom made. I tend to >>think they would be stock trays at that price, though. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Thanks again. Probably legit. It is often used to draw patients in and then spin a big treatment plan ...... Joel > Is tooth bleaching where the dentist gives you the trays and gels to > use effective? Is it better or worse than Brite Smile? They are Who is "they"? Steve > charging $149 for the trays/gel. Is that good? > > KJ > > P.S. Thanks! >> Is tooth bleaching where the dentist gives you the trays and gels to >> use effective? Is it better or worse than Brite Smile? They are > > Who is "they"? > >Steve Vanna White, D.M.D. >> charging $149 for the trays/gel. Is that good? >> >> KJ >> >> P.S. Thanks! >> Is tooth bleaching where the dentist gives you the trays and gels to >> use effective? Is it better or worse than Brite Smile? They are > > Who is "they"? > >Steve Monarch Dental, owned by Bright Now, Dental Inc. http://www.monarchdental.com/ >They are > > Who is "they"? They, and them, bastards. Charging me for something that I want for free, of course. 8^]] -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >> Is tooth bleaching where the dentist gives you the trays and gels to >> use effective? Is it better or worse than Brite Smile? They are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> P.S. Thanks! It's only one guy. Man Legally Changes Name To 'They' http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/archive/2004/09/23/namechange.DTL or http://tinyurl.com/5dy3m -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? |
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