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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / November 2004Manic, full moon and full denture
Wish my digital camera was working last night (dead batteries). I had an walk in emergency repair at the end of the day. With company coming for dinner in about an hour. You probably won't believe me. It was one of those priceless shots you occasionally see in the seminars of DIY dentistry. As you know, we were pretty close to a full moon. I had a middle aged women walk in with a full upper denture in the mouth and two centrals in her hand wanting them put back onto her denture. It only took a minute or so to figure out she was quite obviously manic and off medications. She told me she had done her own repairs previously using nail acrylic and that it had broken off. What she did not tell me, was that she had modified her denture from 2nd premolar to 2nd premolar using an Exacto knife and nail acrylic. She had taken off each tooth one by one, modified the shape and repositioned it to her liking using nail acrylic. I was not able to find out what she used to pigment the acrylic. I grabbed my handpiece to prep the denture and the damn thing literally fell apart when I touched the bur to it. 4.5 hours later of incessant whining, 5 try ins, mixing 2 sets of new anteriors, some tooth coloured jet, and a new flange to boot, the patient was finally content with the appearance. She was once an art student so she "understood form and aesthetics" and she once had a friend that was a technician so she "knew how to do denture repairs". Then she complained that the thing was loose and she did not want to use adhesive. I told she would have to come back next week for a reline. Dinner and company had been waiting quite a while for me to finish this repair and join them. All she had was $60.00 to pay for the service. Sheesh........ So how was your day?  SignatureRoy DotSeaEh is .ca I had one guy who used to modify his own dentures ...... I never got a chance to do anything for him (THANK GOD). He was too busy buzzing my ear about colloidal silver or something. Joel >Wish my digital camera was working last night (dead batteries). I had an >walk in emergency repair at the end of the day. With company coming for [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >So how was your day? >Dinner and company had been waiting quite a while for me to finish this >repair and join them. All she had was $60.00 to pay for the service. >Sheesh........ > >So how was your day? Curious that your patient claimed to have the ability to repair a denture and yet came to you ? Alarm bells not working that day ? That must be a bargain for $60 Kaannaadiaan dollers right ? Sorry Roy, can't resist. Perhaps you would have preferred Vulcanite ? Priorities man, priorities. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE Reply in text: | >Dinner and company had been waiting quite a while for me to finish this | >repair and join them. All she had was $60.00 to pay for the service. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | Curious that your patient claimed to have the ability to repair | a denture and yet came to you ? Either ran out of nail acrylic or figured out it does not hold up. Actually had the audacity to ask if I sell her only the 2 front teeth, if I didn't have the time to do it. | Alarm bells not working that day ? They were, my brain was not. | That must be a bargain for $60 Kaannaadiaan dollers right ? Yes sir! Here is a itemized list from my fee guide: $ 42.00 Specific exam $ 77.00 CUD Repair with impression $ 13.00 Repair model $ 29.00 Opposing model $ 78.00 Teeth $ 25.00 Multiple fracture $ 30.00 Labial flange ------------------------ $294.00 Sub Total $300.00 for 3 x "Stomach lining and heart muscle" as advocated by Earl Pound ------------------------ $594.00 Total | Sorry Roy, can't resist. | Perhaps you would have preferred Vulcanite ? And add in $100 for a little more stomach lining and heart muscle. ;-) | Priorities man, priorities. I thought you might have made a reference to P.T. Barnum... Oh well, one day I will have to face St. Peter. I must add this to my CV | -- | W_B >| Priorities man, priorities. > >I thought you might have made a reference to P.T. Barnum... >Oh well, one day I will have to face St. Peter. I must add this to my CV <rant mode> And on a previous day you will meet another willing to take full advantage of your kindness. You should take full advantage of their wallet. I don't mind helping people in a pinch, I take offence when someone tries to take advantage of my good nature. That is where I draw the line and either get much more expensive or angry or both. It is those who put us in the win/lose situation that are most irritating. Win/win or lose/lose I can handle those. </rant mode> -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE | Win/win or lose/lose I can handle those. | | -- | W_B Lose/lose it is then. Here is the kicker. The patient just called. Saying that I have destroyed her denture and feels that she has overpaid me for my services............. Good thing I had a patient in the chair when she called. Forced me to keep my mouth shut. Told her I was with another patient and was unable to deal with her manic condition at the current time. I am pleased that Kanaadians don't have the right to bear arms. I won't have to explain an untoward outcome to St. Peter. SignatureRoy DotSeaEh is .ca >| Win/win or lose/lose I can handle those. >| [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >my mouth shut. Told her I was with another patient and was unable to deal >with her manic condition at the current time. Roy, I cannot advise you in this public forum. >I am pleased that Kanaadians don't have the right to bear arms. I won't have >to explain an untoward outcome to St. Peter. Ohh, you don't have the right to defend yourself ? Oh wait, you said 'bear arms' .... Heard that they are tasty on the grill ! If firearms are outlawed, only outlaws will have firearms... Haven't talked to St. Pete in a while, will get back with you when appropriate. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE | Roy, I cannot advise you in this public forum. Got a pretty good idea of what you might say. | If firearms are outlawed, only outlaws will have firearms... That is the situation in Ontario. Except for the police and armed forces. | Haven't talked to St. Pete in a while, will get back with you | when appropriate. Can you put a good word in for me when you do? | -- | W_B SignatureRoy DotSeaEh is .ca > | If firearms are outlawed, only outlaws will have firearms... > That is the situation in Ontario. Except for the police and armed forces. Don't people hunt there? Vaughn | > | If firearms are outlawed, only outlaws will have firearms... | [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | | Vaughn Yep, out in the back woods. It is frowned upon in areas with populations of more than a few thousand and considered taboo in areas with populations of a few million. Somewhere in-between is that grey area of law where the stalking laws kick in. SignatureRoy DotSeaEh is .ca > | > | If firearms are outlawed, only outlaws will have firearms... > | [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > few million. Somewhere in-between is that grey area of law where the > stalking laws kick in. Then you can have guns in Ontario if you call them hunting weapons? Is it just handguns that are outlawed? Vaughn | > | > | If firearms are outlawed, only outlaws will have firearms... | > | [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] | | Vaughn One can own handguns as well. Legal permits are issued for collectors and target shooters. Most of our laws revolve around the care and control of arms. Walking down the street with the butt of a handgun sticking out of your pants or openly carrying a sawed off shotgun will most likely get a little attention from those that uphold the law. SignatureRoy rem NADA to reply > One can own handguns as well. Legal permits are issued for collectors and target > shooters. Most of our laws revolve around the care and control of arms. Walking > down the street with the butt of a handgun sticking out of your pants or openly > carrying a sawed off shotgun will most likely get a little attention from those > that uphold the law. It is pretty much the same here in the United States of Florida except no permits are needed for ownership. (perhaps I should call it double-Bush country) Vaughn > > | If firearms are outlawed, only outlaws will have firearms... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Vaughn .... well, sure.... but they can only use their bare fore arms. Here in Kebec we can use hatchets made of cheese wedges... We can have arms for hunting, yes, but they're supposed to be locked up and broken open. Hunting arms are about the only weapons we can have... unless you want to count carving knives and such. I don't really think it's much different from the Exited States.... I mean, you all can't go around with side arms and submachine guns over the shoulder, now ... can you... ?... SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >> > | If firearms are outlawed, only outlaws will have firearms... >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >you... ?... >SP Here in WA they have to give you a consealed weapons permit if you meet the requirements and ask for it. Oh, you mean out in the open? I don't think there's any law against that here, altho it may get you some funny looks.. then again thinking about this city, maybe not. -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? > .... well, sure.... but they can only use their bare fore arms. Here in > Kebec we can use hatchets made of cheese wedges... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > around with side arms and submachine guns over the shoulder, now ... can > you... ?... No Vaughn >I mean, you all can't go >around with side arms Yes you can in some states if you have the 'concealed carry' permit. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>I mean, you all can't go >>around with side arms > >Yes you can in some states if you have the 'concealed carry' permit. Oh so that's how those guys get to carry RPGs. >Here is the kicker. > >The patient just called. Saying that I have destroyed her denture and feels >that she has overpaid me for my services............. You could have constructed an entire new prosthesis in the time you took to repair a garbageknot. Less time, materials, and all that other rubbish. Overpaid huh? Next time charge an arm and a leg, literally. For emergency service that will cost an eye too, as extra cost. Merchant of Venice anyone ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE > I am pleased that Kanaadians don't have the right to bear arms. I won't have > to explain an untoward outcome to St. Peter. How many times do you think you'll have to deal with her before she moves on? SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet | > I am pleased that Kanaadians don't have the right to bear arms. I won't have | > to explain an untoward outcome to St. Peter. | | How many times do you think you'll have to deal with her before she | moves on? | SP Once more. Now that I have reasonable doubt as to this individuals mental competency, I can refuse further treatment until an office of the Provincial government declares the individual to be mentally competent. Just mentioning that should send them running. SignatureRoy DotSeaEh is .ca >> I am pleased that Kanaadians don't have the right to bear arms. I won't have >> to explain an untoward outcome to St. Peter. > >How many times do you think you'll have to deal with her before she >moves on? >SP Till you take your last breath, or she does... Which do you prefer ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE Sounds like you would have saved the medical system some money. SignatureChristopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com The patient just called. Saying that I have destroyed her denture and feels that she has overpaid me for my services............. I am pleased that Kanaadians don't have the right to bear arms. I won't have to explain an untoward outcome to St. Peter. SignatureRoy DotSeaEh is .ca > Dinner and company had been waiting quite a while for me to finish this > repair and join them. All she had was $60.00 to pay for the service. > Sheesh........ > > So how was your day? Roy, there is no doubt in my mind that you were nothing but totally diplomatic and polite through the whole thing. I do think, however, that you need to lock your front door an hour before you want to close up shop, and speak to these types through an intercom. Then medico-legally you are covered. This is not the type of person you want referring work to you any way... Sorry it had to happen to you. But as you know, we've all been there in one form or another. SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet > Wish my digital camera was working last night (dead batteries). I had an > walk in emergency repair at the end of the day. With company coming for [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > So how was your day? You have my sympathies. No good deed goes unpunished. Steve | You have my sympathies. No good deed goes unpunished. | | Steve Thanks Steve I'm getting a few laughs out of it all now. SignatureRoy DotSeaEh is .ca > | You have my sympathies. No good deed goes unpunished. > | [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I'm getting a few laughs out of it all now. mebbey so, but the trick is to keep the blood pressure under control when in the thick of the thing.... I sometimes have trouble with that... especially these days, with a new (untrained) assistant, etc... Cheers SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >Wish my digital camera was working last night (dead batteries). I had an >walk in emergency repair at the end of the day. With company coming for [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >So how was your day? Roy, Do you tell the patient there will be a minimum of fee of $100 for a walk-in repair, perhaps higher? You can change the $100 to whatever applied in your office. If you force them to come up with cash or credit card prior to looking in the mouth, you get rid of most of those people who are looking to take advantage of good hearted professionals. Especially on a Holiday weekend. .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. | >Wish my digital camera was working last night (dead batteries). I had an | >walk in emergency repair at the end of the day. With company coming for [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] | | Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. Good idea Steve, maybe even bump it up for the holiday weekends. I think I'll give it a try the next holiday on this side of the border ;-) BTW what do you think of my new tag line? > BTW what do you think of my new tag line? Gets right to the point. >> BTW what do you think of my new tag line? > >Gets right to the point. We like it .. cuneiform or what with that tablet?
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