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The Nature of Electrical Potentials in Dental Amalgams

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Keith P Walsh - 27 Nov 2004 09:54 GMT
The following abstract describes an experimental study to investigate
the nature of the electrical potentials generated by metal amalgam
dental fillings:

"The regeneration of the electromotor force E of the electric piles
formed by two amalgam fillings was measured as a function of time t
after the moment of interruption of the short  contact of their poles.
The measurements were carried out in 30 patients at a mean age of 27.0
+/- 08 years. Automatic recording of the equation E = f (t)
demonstrated that in the first phase of from several to about a score
of seconds the E value rose rapidly, while in the second phase lasting
from several scores to over a thousand seconds the E value approached
asymptotically its initial value Eo."

See:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2
103035&dopt=Abstract


This study appears to have demonstrated that electrical potentials in
amalgam fillings do not simply disappear in a puff of dentists'
wishful thinking, but are in fact re-generated quite quickly after
being discharged. (A "score" of seconds is twenty. A thousand seconds
is about a quarter of an hour.)

Other studies have demonstrated experimentally that amalgam potentials
measure up to 350 millivolts in magnitude.

See:

http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/dutch.htm

And the resting potential of the human neurological synapse is only 70
millivolts.

See:

http://www.smithsrisca.demon.co.uk/memory-glossary.html

The University of Illinois' "Physics Van" website has this to say
about the measurement of electrical activity in the human neurological
system:

"Very sensitive measuring devices which can pick up tiny magnetic
fields can detect neural activity without needing to poke electrodes
directly into neurons, "

See:

http://van.hep.uiuc.edu/van/qa/section/Everything_Else/Humans_and_Animals/200208
12111737.htm


I believe that it should be possible to measure neural activity in the
vicinity of the teeth of individuals both with and without amalgam
fillings and compare the results.

Does anyone disagree?

Keith P Walsh
Keith P Walsh - 28 Nov 2004 18:53 GMT
>The following abstract describes an experimental study to investigate
>the nature of the electrical potentials generated by metal amalgam
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>
>Does anyone disagree?

Does anyone agree?

Keith P Walsh
carabelli - 28 Nov 2004 19:44 GMT
> >The following abstract describes an experimental study to investigate
> >the nature of the electrical potentials generated by metal amalgam
[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
>
> Keith P Walsh

Sorry - we all left.

carabelli
W_B - 28 Nov 2004 20:14 GMT
>> Does anyone agree?
>>
>> Keith P Walsh
>
>Sorry - we all left.

KPW farded 350 mV once again.

That's not a typo, look it up.

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W_B

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StovePipe - 05 Dec 2004 04:47 GMT
> >Sorry - we all left.
>
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> --
> W_B

Are you using the word 'farded' in the sense that KPW just *unloaded* a
350 mV parcel. Or inversely like he just *shouldered* it? Like he's a
serf in Shakespear's time fardel-ing around Electrical burdens on his
back????
Disturbed minds want to know..
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Roy Brown - 05 Dec 2004 06:41 GMT
| > >Sorry - we all left.
| >
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| Disturbed minds want to know..
| SP

From
http://spell-dictionary.com/db/farded
Traditional English :: farded
farded - adj.
archaic (of a face etc.) painted with cosmetics [past part. of obs. fard f. OF
farder]

My perception was that it was just a mental fard, analogous to a biological
computer glitch.

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Roy
StovePipe - 05 Dec 2004 14:58 GMT
> | > >Sorry - we all left.
> | >
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> My perception was that it was just a mental fard, analogous to a biological
> computer glitch.

Thanks, Roy. that makes better sense.... I think .....
SP

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W_B - 05 Dec 2004 17:12 GMT
>> >Sorry - we all left.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Disturbed minds want to know..
>SP

From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) :

 Fard \Fard\, v. t. [F. farder to paint one's face.]
    To paint; -- said esp. of one's face. [Obs.] --Shenstone.

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StovePipe - 05 Dec 2004 18:47 GMT
> From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) :
>
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> --
> W_B

Good, thanks to you and Roy Brown
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Keith P Walsh - 28 Nov 2004 20:52 GMT
> Sorry - we all left.

No you didn't.

You're still here.

And you can't make scientific evidence go away simply by ignoring it.

Here it is again:

"The regeneration of the electromotor force E of the electric piles
formed by two amalgam fillings was measured as a function of time t
after the moment of interruption of the short  contact of their poles.
The measurements were carried out in 30 patients at a mean age of 27.0
+/- 08 years. Automatic recording of the equation E = f (t) demonstrated
that in the first phase of from several to about a score of seconds the
E value rose rapidly, while in the second phase lasting from several
scores to over a thousand seconds the E value approached asymptotically
its initial value Eo."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2
103035&dopt=Abstract


Do you think that it should be possible to determine experimentally
whether or not the electrical potentials generated by metal amalgam
dental fillings are able to dissipate electrical energy through the
nerves
in people's heads?

Keith P Walsh
W_B - 28 Nov 2004 21:09 GMT
>> Sorry - we all left.
>
>No you didn't.

Yes, we did.

All were fried by 350 mV.

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W_B

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Joel M. Eichen - 28 Nov 2004 21:21 GMT
>>> Sorry - we all left.
>>
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>
>All were fried by 350 mV.

Can we use that to fix Christmas lights?

Sorry wrong newsgroup.
Steven Fawks - 29 Nov 2004 16:09 GMT
Now there is a real issue!

I've put up the Christmas tree and lights on the house for 25 years.
I'm scaling back a little this year (less ladder climbing...one misstep
and I could be toast) and the wife acts like it's sinful.  Of course she
has never replaced bulb after bulb in a string of 500 lights to find
the reason they don't work or had someone point to a blown bulb at the
gable after 3 hours of stringing the *$%@ things.

<G>
Fawks

> Can we use that to fix Christmas lights?
>
> Sorry wrong newsgroup.
carabelli - 29 Nov 2004 16:17 GMT
> Now there is a real issue!
>
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> <G>
> Fawks

Good job Clark!

carabelli
Steven Fawks - 29 Nov 2004 19:17 GMT
Thank you Master Wayne.
Fawks

> Good job Clark!
>
> carabelli
Joel M. Eichen - 28 Nov 2004 21:15 GMT
>> Does anyone agree?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>carabelli

Last one out, shut the lights ......
StovePipe - 29 Nov 2004 00:13 GMT
> >I believe that it should be possible to measure neural activity in the
> >vicinity of the teeth of individuals both with and without amalgam
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Keith P Walsh

KPW: what can it mean, even if it is possible to measure it?
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