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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / November 2004Who would like to know?
Dear All, I recently asked a poster to this forum for a list of their qualifications to post what they do and their authority on the subject. They have, so far, declined to answer the question only posting the repost "diversion/irrelevant". So I would like to know the opinion of this forum - Who would like Jan Drew to answer the question: what are your qualifications both academic and anecdotal? Please reply with a yes or no. If Jan sees there is enough interest in her qualifications she might overcome her humility and let us all know what a leading light in research she actually is. Regards Ian >Dear All, >I recently asked a poster to this forum for a list of their qualifications [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Please reply with a yes or no. YES. But I know the answer. She has Continuing Education in poop removal and stuff like that. Joel >If Jan sees there is enough interest in her qualifications she might >overcome her humility and let us all know what a leading light in research [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Ian >>Dear All, >>I recently asked a poster to this forum for a list of their qualifications [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >YES. But I know the answer. She has Continuing Education in poop >removal and stuff like that. Jeez I forgot my disclaimer. DISCLAIMER This in now way is meant to disparage any people, either living or dead, or of any religion, national persuasion, sexual orientation, who may be age challenged (less than three) who still poop where they are not supposed to, according to the norms of Western Civilization. Joel >Joel > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >>Ian >>>Dear All, >>>I recently asked a poster to this forum for a list of their qualifications [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Joel So you mean she has a PhD (piled high and deep)?? Aloha, Rich >>Joel >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>> >>>Ian >Dear All, >I recently asked a poster to this forum for a list of their qualifications [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Please reply with a yes or no. No with explanation. I realize that Jan Drew will never answer the question honestly so it is pretty pointless to even ask her. As I have said it is an exercise in futility to try to discuss things *with* Jan Drew. All correspondence should be *at* or *about* her. Sorry to belabor the obvious. Btw, paradoxically by answering "no" I make it *more* likely that she will answer. It is a case of reverse psychology. Jan Drew hates it for her critics to be right. >If Jan sees there is enough interest in her qualifications she might >overcome her humility and let us all know what a leading light in research >she actually is. If you truly believe this then you are in denial about Jan Drew. If enough people answer yes Jan will simply lump everyone into a "gang" and begin to talk about how the "gang" is going after her. She has already done that on mha. YOu see it is overwhelming for Jan DRew to think that so many people are critical of her. When she lumps them all into *one* gang, it is much more manageable for her. Aloha, Rich >If Jan sees there is enough interest in her qualifications she might >overcome her humility and let us all know what a leading light in research [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Ian Don't hold your breath. Dr. SM lost $1K to me on a be that j**D would never enter into a discussion. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >Subject: Re: Who would like to know? >From: W_B no_one@nowhere.net >Date: 11/21/2004 12:53 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <a552q0lg3b1c8g3n4k6r1h6nids9cvlvv6@4ax.com> I have posted enough proof that amalgams are dangerous. I have also posted the many lies here. >Dr. SM lost $1K to me on a be that j**D would never enter into a >discussion. Like that proven lie and is being repeated. "Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote............................. > I have also posted the many lies here. Well, most of them. There have been a couple that weren't yours. carabelli >>Subject: Re: Who would like to know? >>From: W_B no_one@nowhere.net >>Date: 11/21/2004 12:53 PM Pacific Standard Time >>Message-id: <a552q0lg3b1c8g3n4k6r1h6nids9cvlvv6@4ax.com> > >I have posted enough proof that amalgams are dangerous. And I bet ,, ,you will continue to continue ...... INDEED! >I have also posted the many lies here. > >>Dr. SM lost $1K to me on a be that j**D would never enter into a >>discussion. >> >Like that proven lie and is being repeated. Notice how the actual question is ignored and side-stepped??  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > >Subject: Re: Who would like to know? >>From: W_B no_one@nowhere.net [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> > Like that proven lie and is being repeated. >Subject: Re: Who would like to know? >From: "Dr Steve" nospam@home.net >Date: 11/24/2004 8:16 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <Jt2pd.30173$5b1.2341@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> > >Notice how the actual question is ignored and side-stepped?? Indeed. http://tinyurl.com/5ufrd >Subject: Re: Mercury On The Mind >From: "Dr Steve" nospam@home.net [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I'll read the long posting IF you promise to discuss it with any of us. >Otherwise, it just gets deleted. You'll read *IF*??? Just HOW interested, are YOU??? WHY are you placing deals on YOUR descision to delete it? YOUR role of using this mercury is YOUR choice. Do YOU feel comfortable with using this mercury??? Did you read the DEATHS from mercury vapors??? Do amalgams release mercury vapors?? Do YOU want to be responsible for installing this mercury inches from the brain??? Do YOU want to be responsible for this steady stream of gaseous mercury atoms??? Do You want to be responsible for Elemental mercury when released by a dental amalgam is inhaled and (80 percent of it) absorbed by the lungs and retained in the body????? > Currently the two most important sources of mercury exposure for > Americans are dental amalgams and vaccinations. Helloooooooooooooooooooooo. >Mainstream medical journals, like Pediatrics and The New England >> Journal of Medicine, only publish studies that claim thimerosal is >> safe. And it turns out that these articles are written in large part >> by researchers in the pay of vaccine makers, YOU have WHAT to say about that??? >as the Coalition for Safe >> Minds (Sensible Action For Ending Mercury-Induced Neurological [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Neurodevelopment Disorders, and Heart Disease in the United States" by >> Mark and David Geier, which documents a strong association between the amounts of mercury injected in vaccines and autism. Such articles can >> only find acceptance in alternative (i.e., "politically incorrect") >> journals like the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, where >> this one was published. Do discuss this, please! >Brain cells grown in the laboratory develop the same three >> pathologic findings when exposed to nanomolar (3.6 × 10-10 molar) >> doses of mercury, an amount approximating that found in the brains of people who have a lot of amalgam fillings. > Dental amalgams are the main source of mercury in an adult's brain. An >> average-sized amalgam filling contains 750,000 micrograms of mercury [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> through the nose travel up filaments of the olfactory nerve to the >> hippocampus, which controls memory, and to other critical areas in the brain. In another study, rats given the same concentration of mercury >> that people inhale from their amalgams develop the pathologic markers >> of Alzheimer's disease. People with Alzheimer's disease have mercury >> levels in their brains that are 2 to 3 times higher than that seen in normal people. Discuss away!!! >The mercury in flu vaccines also plays a role in this disease. One >> investigator has found that people who received the flu vaccine each >> year for 3 to 5 years had a ten-fold greater chance of developing >> Alzheimer's disease than people who had zero, 1, or 2 shots. Waiting for your response. >> Another important factor with regard to mercury on the mind, which >> officials at the CDC, FDA and the professors in the IOM do not >> consider, is synergistic toxicity - mercury's enhanced effect when >> other poisons are present. A small dose of mercury that kills 1 in 100 >> rats and a dose of aluminum that will kill 1 in 100 rats, when combined have a striking effect: all the rats die. Doses of mercury >> that have a 1 percent mortality will have a 100 percent mortality rate >> if some aluminum is there. Vaccines contain aluminum. Nice combination huh?? > Why do officials at the CDC, FDA, and leaders of the medical and >> dental establishment discount or ignore all these important facts? Uh hmmmmmmmmm. WHY indeed?? > Some of them being in the pay of vaccine makers is one reason $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. > Thespecter of litigation for having sanctioned thimerosal and amalgams >> and, in the case of the FDA, not doing appropriate safety studies on >> them is another. AS *I* have been saying. You think, I am wrong? If so why? >. But it is more complicated than that. The hypothesis >> that mercury causes autism and Alzheimer s disease is a new >> truth. And as Schopenhauer points out (see my article on him), each >> new truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. AMEN!!! Along with the messegner who has the guts to post it. Do you agree??? > Second, it is violently opposed. We see it HERE!!!!! >And third, it is accepted as self-evident. The mercury truth is now in the second stage. <snip more about vaccines for now> >> Today the medical establishment, led by the AAP, AAFP, AMA, CDC, and >> IOM, has gone to the other extreme. <snip> >> Avoiding flu shots that contain thimerosal, and having dentists stop >> implanting mercury amalgams in people's mouths would lower the >> incidence of Alzheimer's disease. If you have amalgam fillings, >> particularly if there is a family history of Alzheimer's disease, you >> might consider having them removed. Be sure to have a dentist do it who follows the protocol established by The International Academy of >> Oral Medicine & Toxicology for safely removing them. Discussion open. <snip> >> If your dentist parrots the American Dental Association stance on this >> subject and says that "silver" - i.e., mercury - amalgams are [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> to for a number of years. When he chose to ignore it, I changed >> dentists - to a mercury-free one and had him remove all my amalgam fillings. Jan >Dear All, >I recently asked a poster to this forum for a list of their qualifications [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Ian Sure I would like to see it, but I expect to see flying pigs first. .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. >>If Jan sees there is enough interest in her qualifications she might >>overcome her humility and let us all know what a leading light in research [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >.. >Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Thought it was flying toasters ;-) -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >Subject: Re: Who would like to know? >From: W_B no_one@nowhere.net [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>>If Jan sees there is enough interest in her qualifications she might >overcome her humility and let us all know what a leading light in research she actually is. >Regards >Ian From: Jan (jdrew63929@aol.com) Subject: Re: Steve Mancuso Is A LIAR And Can NOT Answer Questions. View: Complete Thread (83 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 2003-04-14 12:12:14 PST Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. drsteve@home.msen.com Troy, Michigan USA +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ As a qualified and licensed dentist, I can assure you that Jan Drew's advice and links can be safely ignored. She is retired daycare center owner with a personal, ill-founded agenda. None of the qualified and licensed dentists who frequent this group endorse her advice and the websites she provides links to.. Yes I am not a dentist, I am just one of many who have been poisoned by mercury amalgams. The links provided are wirtten by DDS's MD's Ph.D researchers and people with actual experience. Most of the dentists here are in denial that it can and does happen,,,,,,,even though they say it can in rare cases. It is NOT all that rare, and there are many unanswered health problems and because of this denial, people never think to,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH! >She is retired daycare center owner with a personal, ill-founded agenda. And that also is a lie. My agenda is in my message. It is posted for all those STILL suffering and STILL searching for their unanswered health problems. >None of the qualified and licensed dentists who frequent this group endorse her advice and the websites she provides >links to. Indeed. However as anyone can see others professionals do endorse a different view. And I give NO advice. I have a message. The public has a right to know that organized medicine and dentistry are in denial. I have helped others and I will continue. Jan |
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