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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / November 2004Dates of states for HYG local anesthesia
In Colorado it was made legal in 1977. The very first state to make LA legal for RDHs was the state of Washington in 1971. You WA boys should be proud of this one! Here let me list all the states that allowed it before the year 2000. WA - 1971 OR - 1975 ID - 1975 NV - 1972 CA - 1976 NM - 1972 CO - 1977 MO - 1973 LA - 1988 SC - 1995 NM - 1995 MT- 1985 UT - 1983 WY - 1991 NE - 1995 KS - 1993 WI - 1998 SD - 1992 AR - 1995 ME -1997 VT - 1993 AK - 1981 HI - 1987 All the rest were after the year 2000. I think there are 14 states that still are about 20 years behind the times and don't allow their RDHs to administer LA. Sad deal. Now those states need the WALKERs with WHEELS Joel ! I feel sorry for the DDS/RDHs in those states they are very much behind the times....... Cool >In Colorado it was made legal in 1977. > >The very first state to make LA legal for RDHs was the state of >Washington in 1971. You WA boys should be proud of this one! Here >let me list all the states that allowed it before the year 2000. I live in WA, and have never ever had a RDH give me the shot. I HATE getting shots, and if somebody who wasn't a dentist or a medical doctor tried to give me a shot of local they would encounter fairly extreme restistence. -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? >>In Colorado it was made legal in 1977. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >doctor tried to give me a shot of local they would encounter fairly >extreme restistence. Interesting! Please do not let Jan Drew see this post. If she hears WA boys, she will immediately think of what it rhymes with ... Jew Boys ...... Sorry, I could NOT resist! Joel > >>In Colorado it was made legal in 1977. > >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joel You could not resist????????? Bad choice. You did have a choice... >> Please do not let Jan Drew see this post. If she hears WA boys, she >> will immediately think of what it rhymes with [... cut ......] [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >You could not resist????????? Bad choice. You did have a choice... Nah, its what came to mind with the Janster ....... Before she actually typed "Jew Boys," I never knew anyone who would have the nerve to type that! Joel > >> Please do not let Jan Drew see this post. If she hears WA boys, she > >> will immediately think of what it rhymes with [... cut ......] [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Joel My Usenet connection seems okay, but the Web is down for me. Can't get any email because it comes through yahoo. Anyway, I think I've had enough of the Janster for one day. Did you happen to lose anything Joel? Check the Lost & Found. TW >>The very first state to make LA legal for RDHs was the state of >>Washington in 1971. You WA boys should be proud of this one! Here [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >-- >Adenosine What about an R.N. ? -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>Adenosine > >What about an R.N. ? >-- My guess is R.N.s can always give a shot ........ >>>The very first state to make LA legal for RDHs was the state of >>>Washington in 1971. You WA boys should be proud of this one! Here [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >What about an R.N. ? Why would I be getting local from an R.N.? I'm not very much sure about how much training R.N.s get in terms of sticking needles into the mouth. I would have no problem with a RN giving me an IV or the like (well, no more problem than anybody else). The problem is, I hate getting shots in the mouth. I hate needles, and the fact that certain shots (can we say platal) feel like somebody is driving a needle into my nose does not help. I don't think they don't have the ability to do a good job, it's just that my mind refuses to listen to sound logic in this matter. -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? >>What about an R.N. ? > >Why would I be getting local from an R.N.? Missed that part about a local. My bad. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com >>>>The very first state to make LA legal for RDHs was the state of >>>>Washington in 1971. You WA boys should be proud of this one! Here [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Why would I be getting local from an R.N.? Tooth decay of the elbow? I do not know really ........ but they do the rest like innoculations etc. >I'm not very much sure about how much training R.N.s get in terms of >sticking needles into the mouth. I would have no problem with a RN [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >have the ability to do a good job, it's just that my mind refuses to >listen to sound logic in this matter. Good thing you left 'semi' in your sig. <just a little kidding> There isn't anything magical about giving an injection of local anesthetic in the mouth. RDH's are trained just as well as RN's for their respective duties. If you don't shy away from an RN starting an IV or giving another type of injection, it wouldn't be logical to worry about a RDH numbing your mouth. They might even be more concerned about your comfort than some dentists (and also might be less rushed to aid in an easy job). JMO, Fawks >>>>The very first state to make LA legal for RDHs was the state of >>>>Washington in 1971. You WA boys should be proud of this one! Here [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Adenosine > Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? >Good thing you left 'semi' in your sig. <just a little kidding> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >JMO, >Fawks I admited it was illogical. It makes no sense for me to be like that, but that's how it is. I have *lots* of irrational fears in the area of dental anethesia, and I have no idea where I got them from. BTW, I didn't say I wouldn't shy away from the RN giving me an IV. I said I wouldn't put up any more of a challenge than anybody else would get. I don't like needles so much, that I've never found out my blood type, because the times I had a chance to I had to prick myself to get the blood. -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? > >What about an R.N. ? > > Why would I be getting local from an R.N.? Well... The wife and I spent some 8 hours in an emergency room over the weekend (she had a widdle boo-boo) and the best we could tell, we never saw an MD. She had (yes) local anesthesia, x-rays, a bone reset, & stitches. We saw PAs, nurses, clerks, aids, technicians, but not one MD. As far as we could tell, she had the best of care. My point is that paraprofessionals are moving "up the food chain" in the medical/dental world. Get used to it. My "doctor" at the VA is actually a PA, and that is fine with me. For some reason, they expect him to see a fraction of the patients an MD sees, so I get lots of attention and a careful exam every time. That said, dental anesthesia requires a detailed knowledge of anatomy and a fine touch. I would rather my dentist take a moment and do it personally. Vaughn [cli] > Well... The wife and I spent some 8 hours in an emergency room over the > weekend (she had a widdle boo-boo) and the best we could tell, we never saw > an > MD. She had (yes) local anesthesia, x-rays, a bone reset, & stitches. > Vaughn [clip] Sending wishes for a speedy recovery .... :-( TW > > Well... The wife and I spent some 8 hours in an emergency room over the > > weekend (she had a widdle boo-boo) and the best we could tell, we never saw [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sending wishes for a speedy recovery .... Thanks Webby. It is painful, but she will live. She went back to work today and is now practicing one-handed dental lab technology. Vaughn ditto  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > [cli] > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Sending wishes for a speedy recovery .... :-( > TW > In Colorado it was made legal in 1977. > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Cool Look carefully. Do you see anything odd? TW >> In Colorado it was made legal in 1977. >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >Look carefully. Do you see anything odd? >TW You mean Joel posting a message from some other forum without clearly stating so? I don't think that's odd for him at all. -- Adenosine Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? >>> In Colorado it was made legal in 1977. >>> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >I don't think that's odd for him at all. True, I cannot resist kleptopostia. > >>> In Colorado it was made legal in 1977. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > True, I cannot resist kleptopostia. Someone once "borrowed" the monkeys but I got over it. TW >> True, I cannot resist kleptopostia. > >Someone once "borrowed" the monkeys but I got over it. >TW Not me, but I know who did! Was quite a story too! > >> True, I cannot resist kleptopostia. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Was quite a story too! Tell us the story. >> >> True, I cannot resist kleptopostia. >> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Tell us the story. Well first about me. If I klepto a little artwork (READ STEAL), I never post back where someone who actually did the artwork or worse, PAID FOR IT, will ever see it. LIKE THIS: (¨`·.·´¨) (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)¸.·´ `·.¸.·´ ¸.·`* ¸.·*¨¨) (_¸.·* ¸.·* (`'·.¸(`'·.¸*¤*¸.·'´)¸.·'´) «´¨`·..*~ See what I mean?* ..·´¨`» (¸.·'´(¸.·'´*¤*`'· .¸)`'·.¸) So ,,, some unnamed person saw the Three Monikeys, thought it to be clever, (which it is), and then posted HERE! RIGHT HERE! For everyone to check his web site ... that included THREE STOLEN MONKEYS! Now he's a good guy, so do not embarrass him. He was sorry! Joel > >> >> True, I cannot resist kleptopostia. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Joel Yes. He meant only to borrow them in order to share the message more fully. So what's going on around here today anyway? What's your take? TW >Yes. He meant only to borrow them in order to share the message more >fully. So what's going on around here today anyway? What's your take? >TW Well, its more like he did not anticpate getting caught! Today? I dunno. > >Yes. He meant only to borrow them in order to share the message more > >fully. So what's going on around here today anyway? What's your take? > >TW > > Well, its more like he did not anticpate getting caught! Yes... it was sort of uncomfortable for a few reasons. > Today? I dunno. Got more mail from you, you know. TW >> >Yes. He meant only to borrow them in order to share the message more >> >fully. So what's going on around here today anyway? What's your take? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >TW If you got mail from me, then its some spam. I did not send any. Joel > >> >Yes. He meant only to borrow them in order to share the message more > >> >fully. So what's going on around here today anyway? What's your take? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Joel It isn't spam. It was from you at your account. ???? Not spam. Do you think you're the only one using your account? TW >> >Got more mail from you, you know. >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >TW Send it over .......... >> >Yes. He meant only to borrow them in order to share the message more >> >fully. So what's going on around here today anyway? What's your take? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >TW Forward it if you can ...... Joel > >> >Yes. He meant only to borrow them in order to share the message more > >> >fully. So what's going on around here today anyway? What's your take? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Joel No mail. No Web. I could post it with full headers if you wish. TW >> >> >Yes. He meant only to borrow them in order to share the message more >> >> >fully. So what's going on around here today anyway? What's your take? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >TW Sure ... do it! > >> >> >Yes. He meant only to borrow them in order to share the message more > >> >> >fully. So what's going on around here today anyway? What's your take? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Sure ... do it! Okay, because I can't send or receive any email ... ironic. But, Road Runner is likely cleaning house or something. I just realized at this moment that I can't even access my email at the moment because I would need to get to the Web ... hmmmmm. Well ..... as soon as everything comes back up, I will post it. BTW, did you go to the Lost & Found yet? TW >> Sure ... do it! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >TW Nope, makes no sense from here ........ > >> Sure ... do it! > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Nope, makes no sense from here ........ > Subject: Sort of like lost & found > If this "619L" means anything to someone, please contact me privately. > TW TW >>Well ..... as soon as everything comes back up, I will post it. BTW, >>did you go to the Lost & Found yet? >> >>TW > >Nope, makes no sense from here ........ I am thinking that I may be able to get a clue from what it says ..... Joel > >> >> >Yes. He meant only to borrow them in order to share the message more > >> >> >fully. So what's going on around here today anyway? What's your take? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Sure ... do it! Web is up. Looked at the email and realized that it contains an address that I really don't want out "there" ... can't imagine why ;-) I prefer to send it to you privately but how am I to be certain that it is going to *you* and not someone else? A dilemma. To send or not to send ... ah, that is the question. Maybe it's better to post it here and just snip out a couple details in the path. What do you think? TW >> >> Forward it if you can ...... >> >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >What do you think? Either way ..... Here is another e-mail address for me .... joeleichen@softhome.net >TW > Forward it if you can ...... > > Joel I think it was just one of those things ... in the trash now. TW >> Forward it if you can ...... >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >TW Okay, sorry anyway. > >> Forward it if you can ...... > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Okay, sorry anyway. No problem. TW > >> In Colorado it was made legal in 1977. > >> [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > Adenosine > Semi-informed Dental Consumer ? Not exactly. Annotations would be different. But, that isn't to say it's not possible to doctor-up the annotations correctly or incorrectly. TW |
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