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Dental Offices closed every Friday?

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OMolar - 13 Nov 2004 01:26 GMT
Why is this trend sweeping Southern CA?
Is this happening in other states too?
Vaughn - 13 Nov 2004 02:49 GMT
> Why is this trend sweeping Southern CA?
> Is this happening in other states too?

    My daughter vistied her dentist today...in California  (OK, Northern
California)

Vaughn
Adenosine - 13 Nov 2004 12:21 GMT
>Why is this trend sweeping Southern CA?
>Is this happening in other states too?

My previous dentist's office was open Mon-Thur 8am-2pm.

And I thought bankers had bad hours....

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W_B - 13 Nov 2004 15:17 GMT
>>Why is this trend sweeping Southern CA?
>>Is this happening in other states too?
>
>My previous dentist's office was open Mon-Thur 8am-2pm.
>
>And I thought bankers had bad hours....

I once worked for a dentist who had stranger hours.
Monday: Noon- 6:00 PM
Tues - Fri: 6:00 AM - Noon.

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 13 Nov 2004 15:39 GMT
>>>Why is this trend sweeping Southern CA?
>>>Is this happening in other states too?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
> Take out the G'RBAGE

    How's this:  I worked for one evening for a guy whose office hours were
8AM-2PM, then 6 PM-10PM, 5 days a week.

Steve

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W_B - 13 Nov 2004 16:14 GMT
>> I once worked for a dentist who had stranger hours.
>> Monday: Noon- 6:00 PM
>> Tues - Fri: 6:00 AM - Noon.
>>
>> --
>> W_B

>    How's this:  I worked for one evening for a guy whose office hours were
>8AM-2PM, then 6 PM-10PM, 5 days a week.
>
>Steve

Got you beat there bro.

M-F 8 to 8
S/S 8 - 5

Once pulled 21 in a row.

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 13 Nov 2004 16:32 GMT
>>>I once worked for a dentist who had stranger hours.
>>>Monday: Noon- 6:00 PM
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
> Take out the G'RBAGE

    That's brutal--I'd rather have the "siesta" schedule.

Steve

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W_B - 14 Nov 2004 18:34 GMT
>    That's brutal--I'd rather have the "siesta" schedule.
>
>Steve

Small wonder that I quit ?

That bastard had us work a half a day on Thanksgiving.
Can you say "last straw" ?

My kingdom for a .38 special.

Arab bastard.

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Vaughn - 14 Nov 2004 18:55 GMT
> That bastard had us work a half a day on Thanksgiving.

    Do we have to ask about the Friday after Thanksgiving?

Vaughn
W_B - 14 Nov 2004 19:13 GMT
>> That bastard had us work a half a day on Thanksgiving.
>
>     Do we have to ask about the Friday after Thanksgiving?
>
>Vaughn

No, it was a full 12 hr. day.
Had to work the WE too.

That arab bastard.

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OMolar - 13 Nov 2004 15:47 GMT
> I once worked for a dentist who had stranger hours.
> Monday: Noon- 6:00 PM
> Tues - Fri: 6:00 AM - Noon.

Are you sure they aren't out partying Friday from noon, and
hungover Monday until noon?  :)
W_B - 13 Nov 2004 16:24 GMT
>> I once worked for a dentist who had stranger hours.
>> Monday: Noon- 6:00 PM
>> Tues - Fri: 6:00 AM - Noon.
>
>Are you sure they aren't out partying Friday from noon, and
>hungover Monday until noon?  :)

Yep, very sure.

Dr. X was a golfer.
Had standing tee times.

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carabelli - 13 Nov 2004 18:23 GMT
> >> I once worked for a dentist who had stranger hours.
> >> Monday: Noon- 6:00 PM
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> --
> W_B

Saw that one coming

7:00 - 12:00  Thurs and Fri

carabelli
W_B - 14 Nov 2004 18:36 GMT
>> >> I once worked for a dentist who had stranger hours.
>> >> Monday: Noon- 6:00 PM
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>carabelli

You forgot the 2 rounds S/S

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Linda - 14 Nov 2004 06:08 GMT
I heard a story - maybe a dental urban myth - that an office used to quit
early every Friday and have a nitrous party.  And then one member of the
staff ended up dying from the extended effects of these parties.
Linda.

> > I once worked for a dentist who had stranger hours.
> > Monday: Noon- 6:00 PM
> > Tues - Fri: 6:00 AM - Noon.
>
> Are you sure they aren't out partying Friday from noon, and
> hungover Monday until noon?  :)
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Nov 2004 07:07 GMT
>I heard a story - maybe a dental urban myth - that an office used to quit
>early every Friday and have a nitrous party.  And then one member of the
>staff ended up dying from the extended effects of these parties.
>Linda.

Either the nitrous or the effect or too many mercury fillings .....

>> > I once worked for a dentist who had stranger hours.
>> > Monday: Noon- 6:00 PM
>> > Tues - Fri: 6:00 AM - Noon.
>>
>> Are you sure they aren't out partying Friday from noon, and
>> hungover Monday until noon?  :)
Adenosine - 14 Nov 2004 07:37 GMT
>I heard a story - maybe a dental urban myth - that an office used to quit
>early every Friday and have a nitrous party.  And then one member of the
>staff ended up dying from the extended effects of these parties.
>Linda.

That's rediculous!

Yes,  nitrous oxide does deplete B12 levels, but only if you did a
huge amount of it.

I happen to know for a fact that one can breath in a lot of nitrous
oxide in a short period of time, even if it's not mixed with oxygen,
as long as you remember to breath every so often.

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Joel M. Eichen - 14 Nov 2004 13:17 GMT
>>I heard a story - maybe a dental urban myth - that an office used to quit
>>early every Friday and have a nitrous party.  And then one member of the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Yes,  nitrous oxide does deplete B12 levels, but only if you did a
>huge amount of it.

Well, if someone got 100% N2O they could deplete their O2 levels
....... with modern equipment its almost impossible but has happened
....... as will be described if anyone is interested.

Its another shaggy dog story ... meaning too long for its worth!

Joel

>I happen to know for a fact that one can breath in a lot of nitrous
>oxide in a short period of time, even if it's not mixed with oxygen,
>as long as you remember to breath every so often.
StovePipe - 14 Nov 2004 22:24 GMT
> Well, if someone got 100% N2O they could deplete their O2 levels
> ....... with modern equipment its almost impossible but has happened
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Joel

.... well maybe give the Coles Notes condensed version?
Thanks
SP
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Joel M. Eichen - 15 Nov 2004 02:06 GMT
>> Well, if someone got 100% N2O they could deplete their O2 levels
>> ....... with modern equipment its almost impossible but has happened
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Thanks
>SP

Just a quick one .... it was in a hospital and some stupid plumber cut
off both fittings (always two different sizes to prevent mix-ups) and
installed 1/8 inch on both.

Sure enough someone mixed up the tanks and when they thought they were
delivering 100% O2, it was really 100% N2O.

Joel
The Webby - 15 Nov 2004 02:18 GMT
> >> Well, if someone got 100% N2O they could deplete their O2 levels
> >> ....... with modern equipment its almost impossible but has happened
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Joel

Wasn't that in a movie????  ;-_
Joel M. Eichen - 15 Nov 2004 02:59 GMT
>> >> Well, if someone got 100% N2O they could deplete their O2 levels
>> >> ....... with modern equipment its almost impossible but has happened
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>Wasn't that in a movie????  ;-_

I didn't see it in a movie, but read about it say 30 years ago .....
The Webby - 15 Nov 2004 03:11 GMT
> >> >> Well, if someone got 100% N2O they could deplete their O2 levels
> >> >> ....... with modern equipment its almost impossible but has happened
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> I didn't see it in a movie, but read about it say 30 years ago .....

So that's where they got the idea ....
TW
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Nov 2004 13:17 GMT
>I happen to know for a fact that one can breath in a lot of nitrous
>oxide in a short period of time, even if it's not mixed with oxygen,
>as long as you remember to breath every so often.

Some people never remember to breathe ...... you gotta concentrate!
StovePipe - 14 Nov 2004 08:27 GMT
> I heard a story - maybe a dental urban myth - that an office used to quit
> early every Friday and have a nitrous party.  And then one member of the
> staff ended up dying from the extended effects of these parties.
> Linda.

I heard a different version: docs or staff would get in the habit of
unwinding after a rough day with a few wiffs of N2O, and sit down in the
chair for a while with it.... After a few hours of sleeping like this,
there's a kind of respiratory supression that sets in, and off they go.
I would be interested to know if this is possible, from anybody who
knows the effects of N2O well enough.
Thanks
SP
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Joel M. Eichen - 14 Nov 2004 13:18 GMT
>> I heard a story - maybe a dental urban myth - that an office used to quit
>> early every Friday and have a nitrous party.  And then one member of the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Thanks
>SP

NOPE! Can't happen.

Joel
Linda - 14 Nov 2004 15:55 GMT
Well, I think I heard it in hygiene school from one of my instructors
actually.  And I think it was the guy who had two degrees; pharmacy &
dentistry.  I'll see if I can go dig up my notes.  Kind of interested to see
... some type of long term effect of nitrous abuse.
Linda.

> >> I heard a story - maybe a dental urban myth - that an office used to quit
> >> early every Friday and have a nitrous party.  And then one member of the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Joel
Linda - 14 Nov 2004 16:08 GMT
I just snooped in my notes (which are now getting old, 6 yrs).  Anyhow, the
only thing written in there is this:  There are instructions on the
nitrous/oxygen mixture system and the need for pure oxygen at the end of the
session to prevent hypoxia. And there is a couple notes on NO2 abuse -
numbness of limbs, possible blockage of Vit B12 causing liver/kidney
troubles.
Linda.

> Well, I think I heard it in hygiene school from one of my instructors
> actually.  And I think it was the guy who had two degrees; pharmacy &
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> >
> > Joel
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Nov 2004 18:34 GMT
>I just snooped in my notes (which are now getting old, 6 yrs).  Anyhow, the
>only thing written in there is this:  There are instructions on the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>troubles.
>Linda.

No inhalation machine can deliver less than the required amount of O2.
The air contains 21% O2. We can breathe 100% O2, 50% O2, 30% O2, but
never less than 21% O2.

The 100% O2 at the end flushes out the N2O.

Joel

>> Well, I think I heard it in hygiene school from one of my instructors
>> actually.  And I think it was the guy who had two degrees; pharmacy &
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>> >
>> > Joel
W_B - 14 Nov 2004 18:35 GMT
>Well, I think I heard it in hygiene school from one of my instructors
>actually.  And I think it was the guy who had two degrees; pharmacy &
>dentistry.  I'll see if I can go dig up my notes.  Kind of interested to see
>... some type of long term effect of nitrous abuse.
>Linda.

Long term nitrous abuse causes neurological problems.
CNS that is.

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StovePipe - 14 Nov 2004 22:24 GMT
> Well, I think I heard it in hygiene school from one of my instructors
> actually.  And I think it was the guy who had two degrees; pharmacy &
> dentistry.  I'll see if I can go dig up my notes.  Kind of interested to see
> ... some type of long term effect of nitrous abuse.
> Linda.

I'd appreciate it if you would... I don't know much about that stuff,
and I'm considering it, 'specially now since the Laser is Kaput.
Thanks
SP
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W_B - 14 Nov 2004 18:35 GMT
>>I would be interested to know if this is possible, from anybody who
>>knows the effects of N2O well enough.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Joel

With the correct equipment, that is.

Long term exposure does cause nerological damage.

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Steven Bornfeld - 14 Nov 2004 21:11 GMT
>>>I would be interested to know if this is possible, from anybody who
>>>knows the effects of N2O well enough.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Long term exposure does cause nerological damage.

    I don't doubt it, though I don't remember any specific research.  What
I do remember is that OR personnel who breath this stuff every day
suffer a higher than normal spontaneous abortion rate.

Steve

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> W_B
>
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
> Take out the G'RBAGE
Joel M. Eichen - 14 Nov 2004 22:04 GMT
>    I don't doubt it, though I don't remember any specific research.  What
>I do remember is that OR personnel who breath this stuff every day
>suffer a higher than normal spontaneous abortion rate.
>
>Steve

Ok that's the men .... any problems for the women?
StovePipe - 14 Nov 2004 22:24 GMT
> >> I heard a story - maybe a dental urban myth - that an office used to quit
> >> early every Friday and have a nitrous party.  And then one member of the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Joel

Good....that settles that. Thanks, JME
SP
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StovePipe - 13 Nov 2004 16:27 GMT
> >And I thought bankers had bad hours....
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> --
> W_B

.... Mebby so, but I'd bet he had a lotta buisness types and students
gettin' it done b/4 classes... I'd also wager he didn't get too many
missed appointments..
Just a Thought
SP
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W_B - 14 Nov 2004 18:36 GMT
>> >And I thought bankers had bad hours....
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Just a Thought
>SP

Well you missed the mark there.

Will inform you privately if you press the issue.

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W_B - 13 Nov 2004 14:11 GMT
>Why is this trend sweeping Southern CA?
>Is this happening in other states too?

Has been the trend for ~20 yrs.

The doc ends up working for the government on Fri.

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StovePipe - 13 Nov 2004 16:27 GMT
> Has been the trend for ~20 yrs.
>
> The doc ends up working for the government on Fri.
>
> --
> W_B

Ah'll tell y'all somethin' else.... I work five days one week and four
the next (locum dentist and her staff have the Friday when we're not
there) and the week where I work FIVE days.... well come 16h00 on that
Friday, I am EXHAUSTED... as I was this here week just finished. I have
only one thought: Thank the Gods that I didn't f.ck up some treatment
for bein' too tired.. My replacement secretary (who is fast becoming
quite an asset at the front desk) tells me that on average, we are even
not more profitable on those weeks where we work five days...
So, there's something to ask your dentist on Friday: 'are you up for
this today, or are you too dead tired...?'
Just a thought
SP
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W_B - 14 Nov 2004 18:34 GMT
>My replacement secretary (who is fast becoming
>quite an asset at the front desk) t

Ass-set ?

Interesting.

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Dr. Steve - 14 Nov 2004 23:10 GMT
>Why is this trend sweeping Southern CA?
>Is this happening in other states too?

I have been closed on Fridays for many years. Not enough patients
wish to schedule Friday appointments No desire to be numb for Friday
p.m.
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

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