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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / November 2004carisolve from SWEDEN
I have seen carisolve post 1 dont use it,dont buy it 2 carisolve you can make in drug store 3 In Poland many dentists were cheated by this product .Dentists bought curretes and similar sh.t 4 I will send instruction how to make it in drug store within 4days regards > I have seen carisolve post > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > regards Thanks, Krzysztof; I'm looking forward to it. DrS already suggested using plain old NaOCl, but I think it would work better mixed with Jell-O for that gel effect (to stop it from running). I do like how it makes the dentin look after letting it work for three or four minutes... Thanks SP  SignatureNot a real Addy, yet so here we are We need 2 one -use syringes joined by gummy channel next 0.5 ml 5.25%NaOCl in one syringe and 3ml gel(EKG) in secong syringe We start mixing couple times and we have carisolve >I have seen carisolve post > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > regards I think there were studies comparing NaClO with Carisolve which showed that Carisolve was consistently better and faster at removing all of the infected dentin. Then again, since I've lost the references, these studies might have been commissioned by the manufacturer! Personally, I think Carisolve was/is a good product but its marketing sucks. Caridex suffered from the same problem (overhyping), or so I heard. Could be good for kids, particularly since it doesnt need any anesthesia, but so would an air abrasion system. George right ! these stuffs could be helpfull but Its almost impossible to avoid drilling.Air abrasion is more universal.. >I think there were studies comparing NaClO with Carisolve which showed > that Carisolve was consistently better and faster at removing all of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > George If you are removing mush, anesthesia is never needed. It is only when you hit solid dentin that you need anesthetic. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... >I think there were studies comparing NaClO with Carisolve which showed > that Carisolve was consistently better and faster at removing all of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > George > If you are removing mush, anesthesia is never needed. It is only when you > hit solid dentin that you need anesthetic. True.... Gawd, I miss my ol' Laser.... that's where the Laser really shines, IMO: You lase the mush.... don't really need it to clean the mush, but it 'analgesizes' the tooth at the same time. So, when you get down to the living dentin, you can scrape on that dentin with a spoon without causing pain. You don't even need.... Ozone.... .... Then you air out the handpiece and put it in the Stat-IM like you always do, and it wrecks your Laser... :-( Just me bein' a crybaby... SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet > If you are removing mush, anesthesia is never needed. It is only when you > hit solid dentin that you need anesthetic. I think that Carisolv will let you remove relatively hard but infected dentin easily. You could do the same thing with an excavator I suppose, but using strength might lead to pain. Anyway, I'm not a fan of the product, but I think it does well what it's supposed to do. Which is not very much. George > I think that Carisolv will let you remove relatively hard but infected > dentin easily. You could do the same thing with an excavator I > suppose, but using strength might lead to pain. Anyway, I'm not a fan > of the product, I am, but I'm not a maniac about it. It has its uses when I am not sure how deep to go. When there's no more dentin turning to mush, I stop. >but I think it does well what it's supposed to do. > Which is not very much. Ach, but Laddy... that 'not very much' is what makes the difference, in my opinion... Unfortunately, it'll take me about 2 years to inform you, since I have only quite recently gone back to using it. Now that Krzysztof has kindly fournished a working formula, we can make it up fresh each morning (or afternoon, in my case today) and use it. > George Thanks for the input SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet >I am, but I'm not a maniac about it. It has its uses when I am not sure >how deep to go. When there's no more dentin turning to mush, I stop. You must learn how to identify sclerotic dentin clinically. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Never say never. <G> Fawks > If you are removing mush, anesthesia is never needed. It is only when you > hit solid dentin that you need anesthetic. True, I should have said seldom. Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > > Never say never. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> If you are removing mush, anesthesia is never needed. It is only when >> you hit solid dentin that you need anesthetic. Always avoid always. >Never say never. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> If you are removing mush, anesthesia is never needed. It is only when you >> hit solid dentin that you need anesthetic. -- W_B Take out the G'RBAGE wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Absolutely positively! Fawks > Always avoid always. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Take out the G'RBAGE > wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com > so here we are > > We need 2 one -use syringes joined by gummy channel > next 0.5 ml 5.25%NaOCl in one syringe and 3ml gel(EKG) in secong syringe > We start mixing couple times > and we have carisolve Jeeezuz! THANKS, Krzysztof!!!! EKG gel.... I'd never have thought of that... I'll try it on a few extracted teeth and see how it does... Thanks again! SP SignatureNot a real Addy, yet |
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