> Holistic v. Wholeistic.
>
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> The second point is that dentists are limited to treating
> the stomato-gnathic system. ..................
>From: "carabelli" huerter@att.net.not
>There is no excuse in this day and age for any dentist not to be aware of
>these issues.
Correct, except they are aware, and still deny the damage mercury vapors do to
the WHOLE body.
They also deny the toxicity of mercury coming from amalgams to the WHOLE body.
They deny the studies.
They have no concern for the environment.
They have no interest in the mercury reduction act.
And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
They CANNOT answer questions.
just where in *mid air* this material (highy toxic, so called safe IN the
mouth) became suddenly hazardous again??
Mercury On The Mind
From: "Dr Steve" nospam@home.net
>Date: 10/15/2004 4:50 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <TIPbd.8090$5b1.7165@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>
>
>I'll read the long posting IF you promise to discuss it with any of us.
>Otherwise, it just gets deleted.
You'll read *IF*???
Just HOW interested, are YOU???
WHY are you placing deals on YOUR descision to delete it? YOUR role of using
this mercury is YOUR choice. Do YOU feel comfortable with using this mercury???
Did you read the DEATHS from mercury vapors???
Do amalgams release mercury vapors??
Do YOU want to be responsible for installing this mercury inches from the
brain???
Do YOU want to be responsible for this steady stream of gaseous mercury
atoms???
Do You want to be responsible for Elemental mercury when released by a dental
amalgam is inhaled and (80
percent of it) absorbed by the lungs and retained in the body?????
> Currently the two most important sources of mercury exposure for
> Americans are dental amalgams and vaccinations.
Helloooooooooooooooooooooo.
>Mainstream medical journals, like Pediatrics and The New England
>> Journal of Medicine, only publish studies that claim thimerosal is
>> safe. And it turns out that these articles are written in large part
>> by researchers in the pay of vaccine makers,
YOU have WHAT to say about that???
>as the Coalition for Safe
>> Minds (Sensible Action For Ending Mercury-Induced Neurological
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>> Neurodevelopment Disorders, and Heart Disease in the United States" by
>> Mark and David Geier, which documents a strong association between the
amounts of mercury injected in vaccines and autism.
Such articles can
>> only find acceptance in alternative (i.e., "politically incorrect")
>> journals like the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, where
>> this one was published.
Do discuss this, please!
>Brain cells grown in the laboratory develop the same three
>> pathologic findings when exposed to nanomolar (3.6 × 10-10 molar)
>> doses of mercury, an amount approximating that found in the brains of
people who have a lot of amalgam fillings.
> Dental amalgams are the main source of mercury in an adult's brain. An
>> average-sized amalgam filling contains 750,000 micrograms of mercury
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>> through the nose travel up filaments of the olfactory nerve to the
>> hippocampus, which controls memory, and to other critical areas in the
brain. In another study, rats given the same concentration of mercury
>> that people inhale from their amalgams develop the pathologic markers
>> of Alzheimer's disease. People with Alzheimer's disease have mercury
>> levels in their brains that are 2 to 3 times higher than that seen in normal
people.
Discuss away!!!
>The mercury in flu vaccines also plays a role in this disease. One
>> investigator has found that people who received the flu vaccine each
>> year for 3 to 5 years had a ten-fold greater chance of developing
>> Alzheimer's disease than people who had zero, 1, or 2 shots.
Waiting for your response.
>> Another important factor with regard to mercury on the mind, which
>> officials at the CDC, FDA and the professors in the IOM do not
>> consider, is synergistic toxicity - mercury's enhanced effect when
>> other poisons are present. A small dose of mercury that kills 1 in 100
>> rats and a dose of aluminum that will kill 1 in 100 rats, when combined have
a striking effect: all the rats die. Doses of mercury
>> that have a 1 percent mortality will have a 100 percent mortality rate
>> if some aluminum is there. Vaccines contain aluminum.
Nice combination huh??
> Why do officials at the CDC, FDA, and leaders of the medical and
>> dental establishment discount or ignore all these important facts?
Uh hmmmmmmmmm.
WHY indeed??
> Some of them being in the pay of vaccine makers is one reason
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
> Thespecter of litigation for having sanctioned thimerosal and amalgams
>> and, in the case of the FDA, not doing appropriate safety studies on
>> them is another.
AS *I* have been saying. You think, I am wrong? If so why?
>. But it is more complicated than that. The hypothesis
>> that mercury causes autism and Alzheimer s disease is a new
>> truth. And as Schopenhauer points out (see my article on him), each
>> new truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed.
AMEN!!! Along with the messegner who has the guts to post it. Do you agree???
> Second, it is violently opposed.
We see it HERE!!!!!
>And third, it is accepted as self-evident.
The mercury truth is now in the second stage.
<snip more about vaccines for now>
>> Today the medical establishment, led by the AAP, AAFP, AMA, CDC, and
>> IOM, has gone to the other extreme.
<snip>
>> Avoiding flu shots that contain thimerosal, and having dentists stop
>> implanting mercury amalgams in people's mouths would lower the
>> incidence of Alzheimer's disease. If you have amalgam fillings,
>> particularly if there is a family history of Alzheimer's disease, you
>> might consider having them removed. Be sure to have a dentist do it who
follows the protocol established by The International Academy of
>> Oral Medicine & Toxicology for safely removing them.
Discussion open.
<snip>
>> If your dentist parrots the American Dental Association stance on this
>> subject and says that "silver" - i.e., mercury - amalgams are
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>> to for a number of years. When he chose to ignore it, I changed
>> dentists - to a mercury-free one and had him remove all my amalgam fillings.
Jan
Rich.@. - 29 Oct 2004 05:40 GMT
>They also deny the toxicity of mercury coming from amalgams to the WHOLE body.
>>>Rich said:
>>>
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>>>>>dam in my mouth for two hours at a time. It's called a burden lifted. It's
>>>>>spelled RELIEF.
>>>>Rich says:
>>>>But at the time that you felt better than you had in two years you did
>>>>not yet have all the amalgams removed yet.
Jan Drew lies:
>>>>Of course I did. The work was over the bill was paid, no more sitting in the
>>>>dentist chair.
http://www.google.com/groups?q=++%22I+hav+felt+better+today+that++%22+author:jdr
ew63929%40aol.com&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=19990618194417.11038.00000497%40ng-fm1
.aol.com&rnum=1
From: JDrew63929 (jdrew63929@aol.com)
Newsgroups: alt.health.dental-amalgam
Date: 1999/06/18
>I believe the mercury is the cause of my problems. I hav felt better
>today that
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>
>Jan
OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looking forward to having the REST of the
mercury out??? The dental work was over?? Poor Jan. May God have mercy
on her soul.
When Jan is confronted about the fact that she still had amalgams when
she said she felt better than she had in two years Jan lies saying
that the dental work *was* over. The above proves in Jan's own words
that she lied. She has been confronted about this contradiction but
she refuses to admit the lie and instead creates diversions by falsely
accusing me of lying.
Watch as she either pretends that she is not reading this or starts a
new thread to attack me. Just watch. What will it be?? Nude hiking??
Did not answer Bubba's questions?? Nuked my posts?? Used her dying
parents to belittle her?? Or maybe Jan will come up with some new
diversion.
Aloha,
Rich
carabelli - 29 Oct 2004 16:11 GMT
"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote..........
> just where in *mid air* this material (highy toxic, so called safe IN the
> mouth) became suddenly hazardous again??
Washington, D.C.
W_B - 29 Oct 2004 17:36 GMT
>"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote..........
>
>> just where in *mid air* this material (highy toxic, so called safe IN the
>> mouth) became suddenly hazardous again??
>
>Washington, D.C.
Beat me to the punch.
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Dr. Steve - 29 Oct 2004 22:01 GMT
>>"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote..........
>>
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>>
>Beat me to the punch.
I have no idea how you can stand to live in DC so close to those
politicians.
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.
W_B - 30 Oct 2004 02:09 GMT
>>>"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote..........
>>>
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>..
>Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Better to keep a close eye on them.
You know that the only time America is safe is when Congress is out of
session.
--
W_B
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Take out the G'RBAGE
Jan - 29 Oct 2004 23:16 GMT
>Subject: Re: Holistic Dentist Debate.
>From: "carabelli" redslaz3@att.net.not
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>
>Washington, D.C.
Your blathering because you can't answer the question is noted
Dr. Steve - 31 Oct 2004 18:35 GMT
Jan' continuing refusal to answer a simple question, which does not
even compromise her stance on Hg in any way, is noted.
>>Subject: Re: Holistic Dentist Debate.
>>From: "carabelli" redslaz3@att.net.not
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Your blathering because you can't answer the question is noted
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.
Dr Steve - 01 Nov 2004 15:10 GMT
Jan, I will happily discuss any issue you like once we finish the previous
discussion. I will even settle for simply your clarification of the term
Holistic. How about it?

Signature
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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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> >From: "carabelli" huerter@att.net.not
>
>>There is no excuse in this day and age for any dentist not to be aware of
>>these issues.