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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / October 2004More Excuses, NO Answers, NO discussion
Wearing thin Sr Steve's posts for today 4:10 P.M. LOL ! ! ! ! What discussion? HUH? What planet did this come from? Did you wish to discuss this article in detail? So, how would you summarize the differences between holistic dentists and traditional dentist if Hg and RCT did not exist? Hey,, that would be cool! New Rock-Band ? ? ? ? But, what does Jan see as the difference between Holistic and traditional dentistry (excluding Hg and RCT)?????????????? For the "hundredth time" excluding Hg and RCT, are there any differences in your point of view? Why do you refuse to discuss? Okay,,,,,,,,,,,, everyone slide into the time machine for a trip back to 1918 and all the science that was known at that time. Hi Jan, I am trying to catch up from the weekend. Did you get a chance to clear up my confusion over the Holistic dentist issue yet? I am reading oldest to newest and have only gotten this far (I do occasionally cheat and read the very newest post). <grin> Let;s see if I can follow you. I will do my best. Please, please help me out if I misunderstood your intent. Kindly scroll down. ~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... "Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message > >>Subject: Re: Discussion >>From: "Dr Steve" nospam@home.net >>Date: 10/11/2004 3:37 PM Pacific Standard Time >>Message-id: <QOEad.16258$Qv5.3253@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> >> >>Might we have a straight answer just this one time. > > I always give a straight answer, so the just one time is a lie. > >>Is the only difference (in your interpretation) the use of Hg or non use >>of >>Hg? > > NO. Just as I stated. > >> The holistic dentist I know is much more different from me than that. > > Oh? Care to share the difference? > > Well??? Is this your idea of a discussion Jan? What are your SERIOUS answers - assuming you have any - which we all now doubt? >>So, how would you summarize the differences between holistic dentists and >>traditional dentist if Hg and RCT did not exist? >Hey,, that would be cool! >New Rock-Band ? ? ? ? >But, what does Jan see as the difference between Holistic and traditional dentistry (excluding Hg and RCT)?????????????? >Subject: Re: More Excuses, NO Answers, NO discussion >From: "John Chewter" john@LESS_SPAMchewter.f9.co.uk >Date: 10/26/2004 5:11 PM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <clmi2c$lo6$1@hercules.btinternet.com> > >Is this your idea >Wearing thin > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] >> >> Well??? Hi Jan, I hope Indiana did not have the heavy fog we did this morning. I came around a blind curve in our subdivision to find a jogger in the street coming out of the mist. fortunately, I was crawling very slow in my funny sounding car. Hey, did you catch my reply to your message about the holistic thingy? Perhaps we can wrap that up and move on to something else.  Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... > Wearing thin > [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] >> >> Well??? > Wearing thin >> [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] >>> >>> Well??? Carbon paper? Signature~+--~+--~+--~+--~+-- Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA .................................................... This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only. Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect your health. ...................... >> Wearing thin >>> >>> Sr Steve's posts for today 4:10 P.M. >>> >>> LOL ! ! ! ! [auto-snip] > Carbon paper? 'Someone' does not realize that discussion involves some degree of original thought and interpretation/explanation of views. Therefore, no discussion has occurred and it is extremely unlikely to develop in the future. Fawks >Subject: Re: More Excuses, NO Answers, NO discussion >From: Steven Fawks tuthjockey@earthlink.net [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >'Someone' does not realize that discussion involves some degree >of original thought and interpretation/explanation of views From: Jan (jdrew63929@aol.com) Subject: Dan Lost His Dictionary Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 2004-10-21 22:29:09 PST >From: "carabelli" > At least 10 questions Dicuss consideration of a question in open and usually informal debate > demands to ask authoritatively or earnestly to be informed >ntelligent discussion isn't done on this level Discussion to investigate by reasoning or argument b : to present in detail for examination or consideration <discussed plans for the party> c : to talk about ==== >Therefore, no discussion has occurred http://tinyurl.com/3u9q6 >and it is extremely unlikely >to develop in the future. Evidently not. From: Dr Steve (nospam@home.net) Subject: Re: Mercury On The Mind Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 2004-10-15 05:51:02 PST I'll read the long posting IF you promise to discuss it with any of us. Otherwise, it just gets deleted. From: Jan (jdrew63929@aol.com) Subject: Re: Mercury On The Mind View: Complete Thread (103 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry Date: 2004-10-15 17:17:32 PST >Subject: Re: Mercury On The Mind >From: "Dr Steve" nospam@home.net [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I'll read the long posting IF you promise to discuss it with any of us. >Otherwise, it just gets deleted. You'll read *IF*??? Just HOW interested, are YOU??? WHY are you placing deals on YOUR descision to delete it? YOUR role of using this mercury is YOUR choice. Do YOU feel comfortable with using this mercury??? Did you read the DEATHS from mercury vapors??? Do amalgams release mercury vapors?? Do YOU want to be responsible for installing this mercury inches from the brain??? Do YOU want to be responsible for this steady stream of gaseous mercury atoms??? Do You want to be responsible for Elemental mercury when released by a dental amalgam is inhaled and (80 percent of it) absorbed by the lungs and retained in the body????? > Currently the two most important sources of mercury exposure for > Americans are dental amalgams and vaccinations. Helloooooooooooooooooooooo. >Mainstream medical journals, like Pediatrics and The New England >> Journal of Medicine, only publish studies that claim thimerosal is >> safe. And it turns out that these articles are written in large part >> by researchers in the pay of vaccine makers, YOU have WHAT to say about that??? >as the Coalition for Safe >> Minds (Sensible Action For Ending Mercury-Induced Neurological [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Neurodevelopment Disorders, and Heart Disease in the United States" by >> Mark and David Geier, which documents a strong association between the amounts of mercury injected in vaccines and autism. Such articles can >> only find acceptance in alternative (i.e., "politically incorrect") >> journals like the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, where >> this one was published. Do discuss this, please! >Brain cells grown in the laboratory develop the same three >> pathologic findings when exposed to nanomolar (3.6 × 10-10 molar) >> doses of mercury, an amount approximating that found in the brains of people who have a lot of amalgam fillings. > Dental amalgams are the main source of mercury in an adult's brain. An >> average-sized amalgam filling contains 750,000 micrograms of mercury [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> through the nose travel up filaments of the olfactory nerve to the >> hippocampus, which controls memory, and to other critical areas in the brain. In another study, rats given the same concentration of mercury >> that people inhale from their amalgams develop the pathologic markers >> of Alzheimer's disease. People with Alzheimer's disease have mercury >> levels in their brains that are 2 to 3 times higher than that seen in normal people. Discuss away!!! >The mercury in flu vaccines also plays a role in this disease. One >> investigator has found that people who received the flu vaccine each >> year for 3 to 5 years had a ten-fold greater chance of developing >> Alzheimer's disease than people who had zero, 1, or 2 shots. Waiting for your response. >> Another important factor with regard to mercury on the mind, which >> officials at the CDC, FDA and the professors in the IOM do not >> consider, is synergistic toxicity - mercury's enhanced effect when >> other poisons are present. A small dose of mercury that kills 1 in 100 >> rats and a dose of aluminum that will kill 1 in 100 rats, when combined have a striking effect: all the rats die. Doses of mercury >> that have a 1 percent mortality will have a 100 percent mortality rate >> if some aluminum is there. Vaccines contain aluminum. Nice combination huh?? > Why do officials at the CDC, FDA, and leaders of the medical and >> dental establishment discount or ignore all these important facts? Uh hmmmmmmmmm. WHY indeed?? > Some of them being in the pay of vaccine makers is one reason $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. > Thespecter of litigation for having sanctioned thimerosal and amalgams >> and, in the case of the FDA, not doing appropriate safety studies on >> them is another. AS *I* have been saying. You think, I am wrong? If so why? >. But it is more complicated than that. The hypothesis >> that mercury causes autism and Alzheimer s disease is a new >> truth. And as Schopenhauer points out (see my article on him), each >> new truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. AMEN!!! Along with the messegner who has the guts to post it. Do you agree??? > Second, it is violently opposed. We see it HERE!!!!! >And third, it is accepted as self-evident. The mercury truth is now in the second stage. <snip more about vaccines for now> >> Today the medical establishment, led by the AAP, AAFP, AMA, CDC, and >> IOM, has gone to the other extreme. <snip> >> Avoiding flu shots that contain thimerosal, and having dentists stop >> implanting mercury amalgams in people's mouths would lower the >> incidence of Alzheimer's disease. If you have amalgam fillings, >> particularly if there is a family history of Alzheimer's disease, you >> might consider having them removed. Be sure to have a dentist do it who follows the protocol established by The International Academy of >> Oral Medicine & Toxicology for safely removing them. Discussion open. <snip> >> If your dentist parrots the American Dental Association stance on this >> subject and says that "silver" - i.e., mercury - amalgams are [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> to for a number of years. When he chose to ignore it, I changed >> dentists - to a mercury-free one and had him remove all my amalgam fillings. Jan >> Carbon paper? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Fawks I think Dr. Steve owe me a grand or two by now. Might be up to 10K but who knows ? -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>> Carbon paper? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I think Dr. Steve owe me a grand or two by now. >Might be up to 10K but who knows ? Remind me next time I am in DC .. Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S. Troy, Michigan, USA Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting. >Subject: Re: More Excuses, NO Answers, NO discussion >From: "Dr Steve" nospam@home.net >Date: 10/27/2004 4:14 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <piMfd.18720$w8.3918@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> > >Carbon paper? > More Excuses, NO Answers, NO discussion >> More Excuses, NO Answers, NO discussion Thank you, that means you have to answer the question? >Carbon paper? We did away with that when we installed the paperless bathroom... ....errr... I meant office. -- W_B wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com Take out the G'RBAGE >>Carbon paper? > >We did away with that when we installed the paperless bathroom... > >....errr... I meant office. That's one way to cut down on bathroom breaks by employees. Adenosine |
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