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ken grant - 20 Oct 2004 15:02 GMT
Recently I had a CEREC onlay done on my lower left first molar, as it
had a crack running through one of its rear cusps (*exactly through*
the cusp, not around it - it then appeared to curve around on the
cheek side until it ran parallel to the gumline, three or four
millimetres above the gum). The tooth had a large occlusal amalgam
filling.

The dentist said it just needed an onlay, and so only ground about
two-thirds of the tooth down, leaving a third above the gumline. He
used an intra-oral camera and pointed out to me that there was a crack
running through the floor of the filling cavity, probably a
continuation of the cuspal crack that I'd originally spotted. He said
it wasn't a good idea to 'chase' the crack by grinding more of the
tooth, so he just fitted the onlay (I was glad I'd found such a
'minimally-invasive' dentist, BTW!)

The restoration hurt on biting down for a few days (just like a
freshly-filled tooth, in fact), but it's fine now.

But what I'm wondering is: what sort of lifespan will this tooth have?
I always thought that a crack in the floor of a filling cavity meant
the tooth just had to be extracted - but is there more to it than
this? I also seem to remember him saying this was a crack along the
midline of the tooth - again, I thought this was the worst type, but
then, all I know is gleaned from the Web.

I asked the dentist about this and he just said that whereas I had a
filling that was causing a wedge effect, I now have a strongly bonded
onlay that's working to keep the tooth together. I understand that,
but my main worry is: how long?

I know it's impossible to comment on my case without seeing my teeth,
but has anyone here got experience of how such a crack behaves once a
CEREC onlay is in place?

Thanks in advance

Ken
Dr. Steve - 21 Oct 2004 02:45 GMT
>Recently I had a CEREC onlay done on my lower left first molar, as it
>had a crack running through one of its rear cusps (*exactly through*
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>
>Ken

I do this all the time. Once we start using 12x  magnification, or
more, we see more cracks & can treat these sooner. If the crack
extends onto the roots & is advanced enough to allow bacteria to pass
down it, the tooth becomes hopeless. IL the dentist was able lo remove
all stained fracture, then  longevity depends on Your nighttime
acting. Wearing an NTI every night will help.   I feel this explains
why 4% of "normal" Crowns need RCT
..
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA

Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.
ken grant - 22 Oct 2004 18:55 GMT
> >Recently I had a CEREC onlay done on my lower left first molar, as it
> >had a crack running through one of its rear cusps (*exactly through*
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>
> Writing on a tablet PC,so forgive me if the PC misreads my poor handwriting.

Thanks for that reply. I have to say, this dentist didn't stain the
tooth after he ground it down. And, as I say, he saw there was still
some of the crack left, but didn't remove it. Is this something to
worry about?

Should I perhaps go back and ask for it to be ground down further, and
a full crown fitted?

He did take a pic with an intra-oral camera - would it help if I
posted it? (assuming he'll let me have a copy of the digital file).

I don't know if this is a good sign, but there was no need for him to
grind down as far as the pulp chamber (and so no RCT was needed). Does
this suggest that the crack hasn't spread down to the root? And with
the onlay on, are any remaining cracks likely to stop spreading?
W_B - 22 Oct 2004 23:05 GMT
>> >Recently I had a CEREC onlay done on my lower left first molar, as it
>> >had a crack running through one of its rear cusps (*exactly through*
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
>some of the crack left, but didn't remove it. Is this something to
>worry about?

Not unless you are having pain.

>Should I perhaps go back and ask for it to be ground down further, and
>a full crown fitted?

No.

>He did take a pic with an intra-oral camera - would it help if I
>posted it? (assuming he'll let me have a copy of the digital file).

Sure, post away !

>I don't know if this is a good sign, but there was no need for him to
>grind down as far as the pulp chamber (and so no RCT was needed). Does
>this suggest that the crack hasn't spread down to the root?

Yes

>And with
>the onlay on, are any remaining cracks likely to stop spreading?

Yes.

Dr. Steve is out of town this weekend.
I am *filling* in for him <hehe>

--
W_B

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Dr Steve - 26 Oct 2004 17:50 GMT
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>>> >Recently I had a CEREC onlay done on my lower left first molar, as it
>>> >had a crack running through one of its rear cusps (*exactly through*
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> --
> W_B

Thanks George,

I am always amazed at how some people will obsess over simple things.

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
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the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
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