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Periodontist recommending surgery????

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intheno - 19 Oct 2004 20:04 GMT
I am getting a 6 tooth crown replaced (originally injured in a motorcycle
accident).  The periodontist recommends that I get a deep cleaning.  I have
not been to the dentist in a long time so I am going along with that
recommendation.  He is also recommending oral surgery where he is to cut at
the gum line to removed any infection I might have underneath.  He says it
is imperative that I get the surgery so that the crown has a good
foundation.  I have healthy gums do not have any signs/symptoms of
periodontal disease and feel that surgery is an overkill procedure.

Can someone explain the prerequisites for the surgery and if the deep
cleaning of the supporting teeth is good enough for the crown.  Thanks in
advance.
W_B - 19 Oct 2004 20:12 GMT
>I am getting a 6 tooth crown replaced (originally injured in a motorcycle
>accident).  The periodontist recommends that I get a deep cleaning.  I have
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>cleaning of the supporting teeth is good enough for the crown.  Thanks in
>advance.

It's called a 'crown lengthening' procedure.

It allows for a good margin on the crown.
JME is the resident expert.
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intheno - 19 Oct 2004 22:08 GMT
>>I am getting a 6 tooth crown replaced (originally injured in a
>>motorcycle accident).  The periodontist recommends that I get a deep
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com

Thanks....  He wants to do it to my entire mouth though, not just the
affected (crowned) area.  He described it as cutting at the gum line,
flapping the gum over and cleaning/scraping underneath.  Seems pretty
drastic for someone with no symptoms of any disease/infection.
Adenosine - 19 Oct 2004 22:22 GMT
>>>I am getting a 6 tooth crown replaced (originally injured in a
>>>motorcycle accident).  The periodontist recommends that I get a deep
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>flapping the gum over and cleaning/scraping underneath.  Seems pretty
>drastic for someone with no symptoms of any disease/infection.

How do you know you don't have any periodontal disease if you haven't
been trained to diagnose it? Not saying that every doctor is perfectly
honest and that there are none who would try to scam you, but it would
seem that your periodontal is telling you that you DO have periodontal
disease.

Maybe post some pictures and the kind dentists of this forum (i.e.
people who know what they are talking about instead of me) could give
you a second opinion?

Adenosine
W_B - 19 Oct 2004 23:25 GMT
>>Thanks....  He wants to do it to my entire mouth though, not just the
>>affected (crowned) area.  He described it as cutting at the gum line,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Adenosine

Good advice.
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intheno - 20 Oct 2004 14:30 GMT
>>>>I am getting a 6 tooth crown replaced (originally injured in a
>>>>motorcycle accident).  The periodontist recommends that I get a deep
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> Adenosine

Thanks for all the input.  I have visited some sites on the net and have
read the symptoms ie. swollen/bleeding gums, loose teeth, odor.....  I
have no symptoms at all and surgery (forgot to mention doing all my
mouth will cost $1400) seems as a last resort for this condition and not
as a treatment for prevention or as an initial treatment should I have
the beginnings of the disease.  Thanks again.
Dr Steve - 20 Oct 2004 19:07 GMT
Just go get a second opinion from another rperiodontist.  what is so hard?

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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>>>>>I am getting a 6 tooth crown replaced (originally injured in a
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> as a treatment for prevention or as an initial treatment should I have
> the beginnings of the disease.  Thanks again.
W_B - 20 Oct 2004 20:20 GMT
>> Maybe post some pictures and the kind dentists of this forum (i.e.
>> people who know what they are talking about instead of me) could give
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>as a treatment for prevention or as an initial treatment should I have
>the beginnings of the disease.  Thanks again.

I strongly recommend a second opinion as none of us here
has examined you in person.

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W_B - 19 Oct 2004 23:24 GMT
>>>I am getting a 6 tooth crown replaced (originally injured in a
>>>motorcycle accident).  The periodontist recommends that I get a deep
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>flapping the gum over and cleaning/scraping underneath.  Seems pretty
>drastic for someone with no symptoms of any disease/infection.

Then I suggest you seek a second opinion.
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W_B

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Joel M. Eichen - 19 Oct 2004 23:30 GMT
>Thanks....  He wants to do it to my entire mouth though, not just the
>affected (crowned) area.  He described it as cutting at the gum line,
>flapping the gum over and cleaning/scraping underneath.  Seems pretty
>drastic for someone with no symptoms of any disease/infection.

This is the dental hygienists' claim to fame ........
intheno - 21 Oct 2004 15:44 GMT
>>Thanks....  He wants to do it to my entire mouth though, not just the
>>affected (crowned) area.  He described it as cutting at the gum line,
>>flapping the gum over and cleaning/scraping underneath.  Seems pretty
>>drastic for someone with no symptoms of any disease/infection.
>
> This is the dental hygienists' claim to fame ........

Thanks for all the input.  I have visited some sites on the net and have
read the symptoms ie. swollen/bleeding gums, loose teeth, odor.....  I
have no symptoms at all and surgery (forgot to mention doing all my
mouth will cost $1400) seems as a last resort for this condition and not
as a treatment for prevention or as an initial treatment should I have
the beginnings of the disease.  Thanks again.
W_B - 21 Oct 2004 17:01 GMT
>>>Thanks....  He wants to do it to my entire mouth though, not just the
>>>affected (crowned) area.  He described it as cutting at the gum line,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>as a treatment for prevention or as an initial treatment should I have
>the beginnings of the disease.  Thanks again.

Get a second or even third opinion !!
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W_B

Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
Adenosine - 21 Oct 2004 17:19 GMT
>Thanks for all the input.  I have visited some sites on the net and have
>read the symptoms ie. swollen/bleeding gums, loose teeth, odor.....  I
>have no symptoms at all and surgery (forgot to mention doing all my
>mouth will cost $1400) seems as a last resort for this condition and not
>as a treatment for prevention or as an initial treatment should I have
>the beginnings of the disease.  Thanks again.

Unless you are a dentist, you do not have the proper training to
diagnose periodontal disease! The thing about some industries, is that
one of the parties knows FAR more about the subject than the other
party.

Things like this happen to me in what I work at, as a computer
programmer. Unless you get into the code, some very very 'minor'
problems, or problems that are unseen are not visible. There is no
possible way for a person without the proper training to know the full
extent of the problem.

So, like everybody else said GET A SECOND OPINION! You are not
qualified to do your own second opinion, only those comming from a
dentist count.

Adenosine
Joel M. Eichen - 21 Oct 2004 17:25 GMT
>>>Thanks....  He wants to do it to my entire mouth though, not just the
>>>affected (crowned) area.  He described it as cutting at the gum line,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>as a treatment for prevention or as an initial treatment should I have
>the beginnings of the disease.  Thanks again.

X-rays are key. If you have a dentist who has digital x-rays why not
borrow them and post so we can give you a better idea .....

Joel
 
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